Legit question wrote:
Time zones are established on the stationary flat earth exactly the same way they are on a "ball" earth: by the movement of the sun overhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOhsKAR6OY#action=shareHow the four seasons work on the flat earth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8Flat Earth Research:
http://geography.uoregon.edu/profile/fonstad/http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume9/v9i3/kansas.html
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Legit question wrote:
curvy wrote:UsedToBeKnowItAll you are a liar man. You do know that it's impossible to see the curve of the earth without actually being in space.. right? Nice try.
The horizon always rises to eye level and to the camera eye level. When a fisheye or wide angle lens is used, the view becomes distorted and creates a false curve.
If we lived on a ball, or "oblate spheroid" as Neil deGrasse Tyson would lead you to believe, then the ocean and the horizon SHOULD and WILL always drop off exponentially down and away from your feet and eyes. It doesn’t matter how small NASA’s "fake balls" are or how oblate Neil deGrasse Tyson’s sheroids are…standing on a ball, pear, or oblate spheroid will always result in the surrounding land and the distant horizon to fall under your feet and away from you exponentially- yet that never happens. The next time you go to the beach, see for yourself and bring a binocular- the horizon remains flat.
See category #1
How thick is a flat earth?
What does the bottom side of the earth look like?
Categorizor wrote:
Legit question wrote:Time zones are established on the stationary flat earth exactly the same way they are on a "ball" earth: by the movement of the sun overhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOhsKAR6OY#action=shareHow the four seasons work on the flat earth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8Flat Earth Research:
http://geography.uoregon.edu/profile/fonstad/http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume9/v9i3/kansas.htmlSee category #1
Not an argument, ball troll. Try again.
Legit question wrote:
Shaq has a doctorate from Barry University in Education.
“It’s true. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. Yes, it is,†he said speaking at podbay.fm show.
The 45-year-old has referred to his traveling experience when explaining the belief.
“I drive from coast to coast, and this s*** is flat to me. I’m just saying. I drive from Florida to California all the time, and it’s flat to me. I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle.â€
“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat,†four-time NBA All Star Irving said on another podcast, published on February 17.
Speaking on the show, O’Neal has also expressed his doubts in the American education system.
“Listen, there are three ways to manipulate the mind — what you read, what you see and what you hear. In school, first thing they teach us is, ‘Oh, Columbus discovered America,’ but when he got there, there were some fair-skinned people with the long hair smoking on the peace pipes. So, what does that tell you? Columbus didn’t discover America.â€
It sounds like Shaq didn't believe in carbon monoxide at some point in his life.
Round ball expert wrote:
Legit question wrote:Shaq has a doctorate from Barry University in Education.
http://podbay.fm/show/1000068299/e/1488182460?autostart=1“It’s true. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. Yes, it is,†he said speaking at podbay.fm show.
The 45-year-old has referred to his traveling experience when explaining the belief.
“I drive from coast to coast, and this s*** is flat to me. I’m just saying. I drive from Florida to California all the time, and it’s flat to me. I do not go up and down at a 360-degree angle.â€
https://omny.fm/shows/road-trippin-with-rj-channing/episode-7-kyrie-irving-deep-in-thought-30-000-feet“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat,†four-time NBA All Star Irving said on another podcast, published on February 17.
Speaking on the show, O’Neal has also expressed his doubts in the American education system.
“Listen, there are three ways to manipulate the mind — what you read, what you see and what you hear. In school, first thing they teach us is, ‘Oh, Columbus discovered America,’ but when he got there, there were some fair-skinned people with the long hair smoking on the peace pipes. So, what does that tell you? Columbus didn’t discover America.â€
Well your true colors are on display. Are you trying to tell everyone that African American professional athletes are "idiots"? Why don't you just come out and say it, that you're a bigot, bordering on racism.
The time zone thing (with light only part of the day) doesn't make any sense with a flat earth. Based on your theory, you'd always be able to see the sun with a flat earth...It would just be farther away. There would be nothing obstructing the view at all. It actually seems to support the fact that the earth has a curvature since in order for it to be dark, something would have to actually obstruct the sun.
hmm..... wrote:
The time zone thing (with light only part of the day) doesn't make any sense with a flat earth. Based on your theory, you'd always be able to see the sun with a flat earth...It would just be farther away. There would be nothing obstructing the view at all. It actually seems to support the fact that the earth has a curvature since in order for it to be dark, something would have to actually obstruct the sun.
No and you would be wrong. The sun is much closer and much smaller to the earth than in the heliocentric model. It's light range is limited.
https://youtu.be/BLV3QnMYjZcA more detailed explanation here (pay particular attention to the perspective matrix around the 5 min mark)
https://youtu.be/T_Kl5T1Ob6MIt's easy for a person to claim to have won an argument when they keep repeating the same things over and over, provide "proof" that comes from extremely biased sources (even if they are extraordinarily flawed) and go on the defensive before things are posted.
If you really dig into this you'll notice every bit of "proof" is easily proven wrong or extremely flawed. You will also notice he set everything against him up to be called wrong ahead of time. He started by claiming this was a government conspiracy, which sets himself up to go back to that over and over without actually backing anything up. He did the same thing with the fisheye lens. A number of the pics or videos he pans did not use a fisheye lens, but he doesn't look and just says "fisheye lens." It's funny to see how many times he shoots himself in the foot.
But let's be honest, this is just a troll. Probably someone who doesn't even believe in FE but got bored.
Enjoy the rest of the thread.
why cant the flat earthers make a map thats not distorted?
the polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps are NOT accurate in shape. yeah cause australia is 3 times longer than it wide.
ok flat earthers...where is the rock pinnacles of queen maud land? if anarctica is not true then what is beyond this "ice wall"? more ice? aliens? if the sun rotates in a fixed position then wouldnt it be UTTER and COMPLETE darkness and incredibly cold?
now since your maps are distorted you will have a hard time explaining plate boundaries and how seismic waves work.
stop using the polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps to try and convince me, those are inaccurate on true size and location. it has distortion just like a Mercator projection, do you really think greenland is the same size as africa? dont try and show me a 3rd grader microsoft paint effort of the tectonic plate bounderies on your distorted flat earth map.
if this is to be taken serious then get off your a$$ and make a map that has no distortion.
oh and one more thing, how can a polar center be magnetic? show me a disc magnet that has the negative charge in the dead center..yeah you cant
i agree with spencer wrote:
why cant the flat earthers make a map thats not distorted?
the polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps are NOT accurate in shape. yeah cause australia is 3 times longer than it wide.
ok flat earthers...where is the rock pinnacles of queen maud land? if anarctica is not true then what is beyond this "ice wall"? more ice? aliens? if the sun rotates in a fixed position then wouldnt it be UTTER and COMPLETE darkness and incredibly cold?
now since your maps are distorted you will have a hard time explaining plate boundaries and how seismic waves work.
stop using the polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps to try and convince me, those are inaccurate on true size and location. it has distortion just like a Mercator projection, do you really think greenland is the same size as africa? dont try and show me a 3rd grader microsoft paint effort of the tectonic plate bounderies on your distorted flat earth map.
if this is to be taken serious then get off your a$$ and make a map that has no distortion.
oh and one more thing, how can a polar center be magnetic? show me a disc magnet that has the negative charge in the dead center..yeah you cant
CGI and composite art work of a ball earth compliments of NASA is worse. The flat earth map isn't perfect. Will address your questions later...
Legit question wrote:
According to the Earth's spherical geometry with a 25,0000 circumference, here is the elevation loss per mile:
1 mile - 8 inches
2 miles - 32 inches
3 miles - 6 feet
4 miles - 10 feet
5 miles - 16 feet
6 miles - 24 feet
7 miles - 32 feet
8 miles - 42 feet
9 miles - 54 feet
10 miles - 66 feet
20 miles - 266 feet
30 miles - 600 feet
40 miles - 1066 feet
50 miles - 1666 feet
60 miles - 2400 feet
70 miles - 3266 feet
80 miles - 4266 feet
90 miles - 5400 feet (over a mile now)
100 miles - 6666 feet
If this is correct, then why do the lifeguards in Ventura Beach on a clear day see the Anacapa Arch island bridge from the beach? This 40ft high arch is more than 18 miles away from the Ventura County Fairgrounds, which means it should be considerably below the horizon and NOT visible IF we are on a curved earth. Yet, somehow, everyone there has seen it on clear weather days. Hmmmm...
You're dumb. Sure its about 266 feet lower, but because the earth is curved (and doesn't just drop off 266 feet vertically at the 18 mile mark) you can still see at a lower elevation that what you are at. Remember, the horizon is entirely different than the vertical drop off of what you can still see. Do the math, correctly.
Legit question wrote:
i agree with spencer wrote:why cant the flat earthers make a map thats not distorted?
the polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps are NOT accurate in shape. yeah cause australia is 3 times longer than it wide.
ok flat earthers...where is the rock pinnacles of queen maud land? if anarctica is not true then what is beyond this "ice wall"? more ice? aliens? if the sun rotates in a fixed position then wouldnt it be UTTER and COMPLETE darkness and incredibly cold?
now since your maps are distorted you will have a hard time explaining plate boundaries and how seismic waves work.
stop using the polar azimuthal equidistant projection maps to try and convince me, those are inaccurate on true size and location. it has distortion just like a Mercator projection, do you really think greenland is the same size as africa? dont try and show me a 3rd grader microsoft paint effort of the tectonic plate bounderies on your distorted flat earth map.
if this is to be taken serious then get off your a$$ and make a map that has no distortion.
oh and one more thing, how can a polar center be magnetic? show me a disc magnet that has the negative charge in the dead center..yeah you cant
CGI and composite art work of a ball earth compliments of NASA is worse. The flat earth map isn't perfect. Will address your questions later...
See category #1
mnjgyfcvguhk wrote:
Legit question wrote:According to the Earth's spherical geometry with a 25,0000 circumference, here is the elevation loss per mile:
1 mile - 8 inches
2 miles - 32 inches
3 miles - 6 feet
4 miles - 10 feet
5 miles - 16 feet
6 miles - 24 feet
7 miles - 32 feet
8 miles - 42 feet
9 miles - 54 feet
10 miles - 66 feet
20 miles - 266 feet
30 miles - 600 feet
40 miles - 1066 feet
50 miles - 1666 feet
60 miles - 2400 feet
70 miles - 3266 feet
80 miles - 4266 feet
90 miles - 5400 feet (over a mile now)
100 miles - 6666 feet
If this is correct, then why do the lifeguards in Ventura Beach on a clear day see the Anacapa Arch island bridge from the beach? This 40ft high arch is more than 18 miles away from the Ventura County Fairgrounds, which means it should be considerably below the horizon and NOT visible IF we are on a curved earth. Yet, somehow, everyone there has seen it on clear weather days. Hmmmm...
You're dumb. Sure its about 266 feet lower, but because the earth is curved (and doesn't just drop off 266 feet vertically at the 18 mile mark) you can still see at a lower elevation that what you are at. Remember, the horizon is entirely different than the vertical drop off of what you can still see. Do the math, correctly.
Now you're either trolling or just obtuse. In any event, the figures I posted are based on your fantasy globe earth model. I did not make up those numbers. The Anacapa Arch should not be even be seen from 9 miles out.
Explain to me how the US the Navy paints their missile targets with a laser (not radar) up to 50 nautical miles over the sea. Care to argue with a US Naval Missile instructor?
50 miles should cause a 1,662 foot drop on the surface, with a 415 foot hump of water to contend with. Now what ship or other floating vessel's main body would be so tall that the metal side of that ship could be targeted at 50 miles - if the hump of water covering it needs to be over 400 feet tall? Let me guess refraction bends the Earth itself? LOL. The mental gymnastics you have to resort to is ludicrous.
https://youtu.be/Z5jWs-xZiaETry again.
To everyone being trolled:
No one really believes the world is flat. That should be painfully obvious to everyone. Try to understand that.
The method of the troll is to reply in earnestness with misguided logic/parlor tricks and/or misuse of actual physics laws to obfuscate, and they appear to do a good job. This post will elicit a similar response, and I don't care. It's boring.
The point of the troll is to create a situation in which people get riled up with the thought that some people believe in something so blindingly untrue they then post impassioned speeches, getting bent out of shape explaining what the troll obviously already knows to be true. By getting into a back-and-forth, you have fallen for the troll (thinking this person believes the Earth is flat).
Yours truly,
Captain Obvious
Hmmm, this got me thinking. On a flat earth, where will the sun be shining during the shortest day of the year in the northern hemisphere, on December 21, 2017? What will the illumination of the sun beam look like, as it shines down on the earth, during the whole day, as the sun makes one complete revolution?
If I go to Punta Arenas, Chile on Dec. 21, 2017, I might expect to see, in the local timezone:
The sunrise at 5:12, the sunset at 22:11, with 16h58 of sunlight.
If I go to Albany, Australia on Dec. 21, 2017, I might expect to see, in the local timezone:
The sunrise at 4:50, the sunset at 19:22, with 14h31 of sunlight.
If I go to Kiruna, Sweden on Dec. 21, 2017, I might expect to see, in the local timezone:
No sunrise, no sunset, with 0h00 of sunlight.
All of these events can be easily confirmed by using your own eyes, and a simple analog wristwatch. No need to trust NASA, GPS devices, or fake CGI sunrises and sunsets.
On a flat earth, with a sun only 3,000 miles away, what would the sunprint look like, as it shines on the earth? What would it look like from the vantage point of these three cities, which on a flat map, look about 18,600 miles apart from each other? Around 5:00pm in Chile, almost 12 hours into the 17 hour day, the sun is starting to rise in Australia at 5:00am. The sun will continue to be visible from both countries for another 5 hours, before setting in Chile, all the while never shining on the north of Sweden, located about halfway between.
If I could go to McMurdo station, Antarctica, if the governments would let me, things REALLY get weird:
On Oct 23rd, 2017, the sun would rise at 2:08, spin around the sky for 120 days, and would not set again until Feb 20th, 2018 at 1:31.
How does that make any sense, on a flat earth? The frisbee is in your court.
[quote]Legit question wrote:
Time zones are established on the stationary flat earth exactly the same way they are on a "ball" earth: by the movement of the sun overhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOhsKAR6OY#action=share
How the four seasons work on the flat earth:
I didn't search...explain earth's curved shadow on the moon?
Or consider this Captain,
Your mind will not allow you to believe that flat earth could ever happen. This is called cognitive dissonance, meaning you were brainwashed from a very young age. You have seen the globe model thousands of times each and every year of your life from the crib since day one. Just look at how many corporations have this globe logo.
You are told by everyone in your life that you live on a spinning ball. Everyone that told you this also believes this same thing. Fake images taken with fisheye lenses reinforce this world view constantly in every form of media. A small group of people (NASA) control all the space programs and therefore any images from space. And of course, you will believe it without question. Then when someone dares speak against this, you lash out. You have been deceived your entire life- that is why you cannot overcome the lifelong conditioning that you have been fooled.