I'm breaking my rule: Second Kip Litton Thread - Can someone please tell me what's up?

Demats, you might want to take a little time out of your day and go to athlinks.com, look at every race from 2006 forward and then google even the smaller ones that look suspicious. You might find more interesting finds. The Jacksonville 2006 marathon looks like a white elephant. It doesn't take long. I found the bayshore 2007 pix that way. (Page 43 or 44 if u haven't seen them)

Which is exactly why I would LOVE to sit down with him and which is why he'd never agree to do so. Mr. Singer was way to easy on him.

Ending up in front of the relay pace car at the Free Press? I mean WOW, and he actually thinks he can tell people that it was an innocent mistake and that he should be believed.

As I said, the guy in the yellow shirt (Solstice) almost certainly saw something that wasn't right, but just didn't understand the scale of cheating that he had just witnessed.

3:30, and yes he would have gotten away with more than he did. But sub 3 hours, nope. He bit off more than he could chew. Winning master races with huge chip differential times, nope, not gonna happen. The human ego is more powerful than most people understand.

What ya say Mr. Litton? Wanna have a sit down?

Achtung Baby wrote:

As I said, the guy in the yellow shirt (Solstice) almost certainly saw something that wasn't right, but just didn't understand the scale of cheating that he had just witnessed.

Which photo do you refer to? There's one where a guy in a yellow shirt a long way off is looking, but you can't really make out his face. And there's the one with the Michigan yellow shirt, but Kip is behind him.

That race is one of Kip's worst miscalculations and most obvious smoking guns of his cheating, but I'm just curious which photo you're referring to.

The 2nd picture on this page. The guy in the yellow shirt, in my opinion, saw something as I bet he knew he didn't have a number and saw him enter, either before or after (more likely) that he passed by where him and the other guy are standing. Trust me, he tripped up on more than one occasion, but not everyone would understand the gravity of what they witnessed.

Many will disagree, but I'd bet that he witnessed him jogging on the side, easy strategy, and then jumping in. Or he had seen him jogging before he got to him and then saw him suddenly running in the center of the road "after" he passed him.

Talk about an easy course to cut. The challenge would be waiting to start running until it's safe as to not be seen by the runner behind you. Then you're in. But when you run that pace, on that day, on that course, on those hills, with no visible sweat, with several runners knowing that he was never in front of them....not too smart. Simply denying it or claiming a wrong turn doesn't fly in the face of logic.

It's been 4 years since Dan baxley's 2010 tirade on the original Kip Litton thread. He seemed really mad on here and tried to defend Litton's behavior as best he could. Do Dan Baxley's lips now belong on his buttcrack?

I have no personal knowledge of who he is or to be completely honest, if he actually exists as the one who made the posts.

I'm quite confident that I know who made a lot of those posts as I'm sure others are as well.

To me, if you back him up and claim to be at such and such race, then one should have no problem stepping up to defend him.

But, that hasn't happened and we all know that you cannot mount an HONEST defense over facts that prove otherwise, and yes I said facts, not opinions.

So dan baxley's Facebook is a fake account controlled by Kip?

Is the Kipster running the Crim tomorrow? Anyone?

Yes. Well maybe. He might. Who knows? Probably not.

No mas wrote:

Is the Kipster running the Crim tomorrow? Anyone?

Kip Litton did not register in Crim...but brother Kurt ran the Crim for the first time. He really improved from the 30 minute 5ks in Spring with a 1:24 Crim. It was very humid today.

Wow, it took Kurt Litton exactly 4 minutes to get to the starting line. I didn't know it took that long, but I'm sure it's possible.

Do the brothers look a lot a like? I wonder...and no I'm not talking about the Crim, but other races. Hmmmm...

The Crim is sent in waves now. He was scheduled in the D wave and would have been in the 4th wave out. The D wave would have been runners expected to run about 1:40 Crim. There are a lot of people in these deeper waves.

Leave Curt alone. You know the old saying: "you can't judge a crook by his brother".

NFL scandals and ISIS and all of the other bad stuff in the world is taking attention away from Kip Litton. Any updates on the investigations?

seattleftw wrote:

NFL scandals and ISIS and all of the other bad stuff in the world is taking attention away from Kip Litton. Any updates on the investigations?

Kip is probably using reputation dot com or one of those

Right, because his wife and kids would have no vested interest in lying for him. Makes sense.

JC Harris wrote:

Right, because his wife and kids would have no vested interest in lying for him. Makes sense.

"@nick_litton #QuestionsIHateBeingAsked did ur dad cheat in marathons? no he didnt, so stop asking..."

On @nick_litton:"you don't remember what happened; what you remember becomes what happened."Guessing he learn this from his pops.

once it's public, it's public. wrote:

JC Harris wrote:

Right, because his wife and kids would have no vested interest in lying for him. Makes sense.

"@nick_litton #QuestionsIHateBeingAsked did ur dad cheat in marathons? no he didnt, so stop asking..."

once it's public, it's public. wrote:

JC Harris wrote:

Right, because his wife and kids would have no vested interest in lying for him. Makes sense.

"@nick_litton #QuestionsIHateBeingAsked did ur dad cheat in marathons? no he didnt, so stop asking..."

No, he cheated. Yes, it's that simple. It's NOT opinion. He clearly cheated. No one has splits like that and change apparel during a race. Start at the back and pass hundreds of runners, without one runner seeing him go by. Are you people that dumb?