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Billy Madison wrote:
Westerner you started well then proved you actually are guessing. UCLA never was easy to get into, that is just a lie. It has always been a very desirable academic institution. The struggle is the changed landscape.
The struggle is with the scholarship limitations that did not exist in the past. It is still a sports school.
Track can be revived quickly. Faster than most think. It deserves the proper attention and support internally and externally. It really is that simple, but complicated all the same. Navigating this is the challenge. Who is hired will dictate a lot
UCLA has never been easy to get into but it sure was a lot cheaper way back when.
Coach Larsen & Coach Bush made track successful by using very little of their scholarship dollars on distance. The focus was building a strong track program with sprinters, jumpers, & throwers. They used the academic strength of the school to attract very good distance runners to walk on. That is still a formula that will work to build a track program.
Ucla has never been a distance power house... the first year they ever made it to XC nationals was 1979 ... after that they made it a number of times in the early 80s... the best year being 1984 (5th)... after that they have a had some good distance runners but not too strong in XC. It's just not the focus.
You are correct. It's a fairly quick fix for track. Distance will remain in the back seat .
The women's side can be a bit different because there are more scholarships.
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My son who earned a 4.0GPA in high school, took all the AP classes offered and attained a 35 ACT (out of 36). Less than 1% of all students (0.775%) nationwide get a 35 ACT. UCLA accepted him but would not provide any academic financial aid (we were from out of state). That sort of says how challenging it is to gain acceptance/financial aid to UCLA. A very good school.
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I heard Wetmore is out at Colorado.
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critic 100 wrote:
I heard Wetmore is out at Colorado.
WOW! That's nuts.
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UCLA is no joke for academics wrote:
My son who earned a 4.0GPA in high school, took all the AP classes offered and attained a 35 ACT (out of 36). Less than 1% of all students (0.775%) nationwide get a 35 ACT. UCLA accepted him but would not provide any academic financial aid (we were from out of state). That sort of says how challenging it is to gain acceptance/financial aid to UCLA. A very good school.
Why would they offer academic aid when the average ACT there is a 32. Go to a state school ranker outside the top 100 if you want merit aid.
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Billy Madison wrote:
Westerner you started well then proved you actually are guessing. UCLA never was easy to get into, that is just a lie. It has always been a very desirable academic institution. The struggle is the changed landscape.
The struggle is with the scholarship limitations that did not exist in the past. It is still a sports school.
Track can be revived quickly. Faster than most think. It deserves the proper attention and support internally and externally. It really is that simple, but complicated all the same. Navigating this is the challenge. Who is hired will dictate a lot
As for Ucla always being a desirable school, my point is that it’s now an academically elite school.
“The historical trajectory of UCLA admissions can best be understood through a once-per-decade peek at the university’s shifting acceptance rates. In 1980, nearly three-quarters of those who applied were accepted, by 1990, this had dropped to the low-40s. However, by 2000, it had fallen to the high 20s, by 2010, the low-20s, and now, in 2023, the UCLA acceptance rate rests at 11%.”
Any AD of Ucla will now look bad, because many sports won’t be able to recruit an entire team of 3.6 students. (Last year’s middle 25-75% of freshmen have GPAs of 4.2-4.3.) In contrast are the private schools like Stanford and USC that can admit and scholarship any old linebacker they want. That’s what wins football championships, not 100 mathletes.
I agree with you, though, that the right coach could turn around Ucla track and field in two seasons.
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Illinois coach ro UCLA. Strong rumors being talked during yesterday’s Grand Prix at drake stadium
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UCLA can't afford petros
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And Illinois did.
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quick google search shows that Illinois and ucla are paying about the same for their head track coach.
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frickleShhh wrote:
quick google search shows that Illinois and ucla are paying about the same for their head track coach.
A quick Google search shows that Los Angeles is 68% more expensive than Champaign, IL.
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ifyou wrote:
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That part. I don't know the exact % but housing alone in CA is going to hurt a man's pocket even more if he has a family.
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what makes you think it is going to be a man?
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Westerners wrote:
Billy Madison wrote:
Westerner you started well then proved you actually are guessing. UCLA never was easy to get into, that is just a lie. It has always been a very desirable academic institution. The struggle is the changed landscape.
The struggle is with the scholarship limitations that did not exist in the past. It is still a sports school.
Track can be revived quickly. Faster than most think. It deserves the proper attention and support internally and externally. It really is that simple, but complicated all the same. Navigating this is the challenge. Who is hired will dictate a lot
As for Ucla always being a desirable school, my point is that it’s now an academically elite school.
“The historical trajectory of UCLA admissions can best be understood through a once-per-decade peek at the university’s shifting acceptance rates. In 1980, nearly three-quarters of those who applied were accepted, by 1990, this had dropped to the low-40s. However, by 2000, it had fallen to the high 20s, by 2010, the low-20s, and now, in 2023, the UCLA acceptance rate rests at 11%.”
Any AD of Ucla will now look bad, because many sports won’t be able to recruit an entire team of 3.6 students. (Last year’s middle 25-75% of freshmen have GPAs of 4.2-4.3.) In contrast are the private schools like Stanford and USC that can admit and scholarship any old linebacker they want. That’s what wins football championships, not 100 mathletes.
I agree with you, though, that the right coach could turn around Ucla track and field in two seasons.
What is the cutoff for acedimcally elite schools? What school is last in?
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cheifbruin wrote:
what makes you think it is going to be a man?
Maybe because the last coach was a man and the person they’re speculating to take the reins is a man. It could be a woman, but if so it won’t really hurt her pockets right? If she is single she will be fine, if she’s married you have to expect her husband will have a decent paying job as well to share expenses. This isn’t a dig this is a real life analysis.
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I believe they were talking about one of the assistants not the head coach
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He can win an NCAA title at UCLA something that will never going to happen at illinois
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Even if it's a woman this will hurt her pockets in terms of housing. I don't have anything against women.
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