Mediocrity may not have been the right word l, but the point still stands.
Her prs in 1984 were 10.99 and 22.04.
In 1987 her prs were 10.96 and 21.96.
Then in 1988 we see meteoric improvements. Then the sudden "retirement 4 months before they started random drug testing.
I don't think she is a real black. She has some white blood in the veins from ancestry.
1984
1987
1988
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiiFdZ4WoAAYqfk?format=jpg&name=large
FWIW, I was told by a very credible source as well- one of the U.S. Olympic team coaches. He said they were told to keep it quiet. He had too much integrity not to tell the truth if asked directly, but did not go out of the way to “blow the lid off the story”
No...not even close to clean
kumquat wrote:
Flo Jo probably the most doped athlete ever in any sport.
The dirtiest of the dirty Americans.
I'm shocked that there are still people who think that FloJo was clean.
In North America, if descendant of slaves ... .
Peckerwood wrote:
coach wrote:
If you juxtapose this picture with one from her college days (her face is very different) it is even more obvious.
Couldn't you find more than a few women with similar musculature definition at any college meet? This picture is not proof.
I think it's more the "mustachature definition" that raises questions
No.
100% science experiment wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I find that hard to believe and even harder to believe that it could have been kept secret all these years. Why didn't you blow the lid on the story?
It was 31 years ago. I was 19 years old, and there was certainly no internet. The former USA Today T and F writer would corroborate the story. He was in the room when the meeting to decide what to do took place. What does it even matter now? You’d have to be a fool to believe she wasn’t on drugs even not knowing the backstory.
No disrespect intended, but either you are fibbing or the anonymous USA Today T and F writer. USA Today didn't start until the mid-80s, they were pretty small at that time.
Nado Con Tiburones wrote:
World Records and Performance Enhancing Drugs (Women)
Every World Record in Track and Field has been accomplished with the aid of Performance Enhancing Drugs
Let’s take a look at the Womens records:
You did not take a look at 5000m, 100mH, 400mH and 3000mSC, not to mention any of the field events. Were they also achieved by PEDs?
SP and DT were obviously drug aided. But others are not as obvious as the ones you listed.
Actually, USA Today started in 1982, and by 1985 they were the second largest paper in the US. I can't remember the name of their primary track writer, but he was pretty good, and USA Today had great coverage of track. At least we thought it did--if their writer was part of the coverup of the doping, maybe it wasn't as good as we thought it was.
TrackCoach wrote:
100% science experiment wrote:
It was 31 years ago. I was 19 years old, and there was certainly no internet. The former USA Today T and F writer would corroborate the story. He was in the room when the meeting to decide what to do took place. What does it even matter now? You’d have to be a fool to believe she wasn’t on drugs even not knowing the backstory.
No disrespect intended, but either you are fibbing or the anonymous USA Today T and F writer. USA Today didn't start until the mid-80s, they were pretty small at that time.
I've heard the same story several times over many years about that reporter being in the room during that discussion. Doesn't necessarily mean it's true, but that story isn't a new one.
Regarding USA Today, by 1987 it was actually the most read newspaper in the United States.
The bigger question is this - If there were many people who knew about it at the time, how come more people haven't come out about drug tests being covered up at the 1988 Olympics? The only other one I've heard of is Victor Conte, but his credibility isn't that great.
Jerry Dial wrote:
Flo Jo and the rest of the Americans had no choice.
The Eastern European women were wiping the floor with Americans and they were clearly doping. Americans got tired of losing to East Germans, West Germans, Russians, Romanians etc so they started doping as well
This raises a very disturbing question. Was Evelyn Ashford clean?
Her times declined after the introduction of random drug test. But it was not a steep decline, and she was well into her 30s. So maybe this was due to natural aging more than anything else. She also did not have any drastic improvement at any point of her career, and her physique did not visibly change.
But was she really clean?
FlowingOnTheJoe wrote:
To compete with East Germany and Russia I’m guessing no. Thoughts?
Is the Easter Bunny real or your old relative giving out candy and money?
If you want the truth Ollan Cassell knows exactly what went down.
Like Really Bro wrote:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/02/sports/02flojo2print/02flojo2print-superJumbo-v3.jpg?quality=90&auto=webpNeed you say more?
love that mustache haha
this face says it all.
i think she retired cause she was disgusted with what she turned into, she looks like a troll and has a mustache....she went from beautiful to ugly and didnt like it.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0431647/mediaviewer/rm1031866624/
She had a pb of 10:49...21:34 and 48.1 in the 400 m(last leg relay in 1988) .Thats the most incredible performance by any runner.Allyson Felix is not nowwhere near that
A friend who worked and traveled the circuit told me that her training group was spending $5k a week on HGH.
I had asked about her sudden improvement. This was pre Olympics
Her form mid-way through a 100 was unlike any other.
