rojo wrote:
reed wrote:
Finally, the only twitter account to block me has been destroyed.
What were you blocked for? We were blocked as well.
Who knows why...I have like 5 twitter followers so maybe they were intimidated by me
rojo wrote:
reed wrote:
Finally, the only twitter account to block me has been destroyed.
What were you blocked for? We were blocked as well.
Who knows why...I have like 5 twitter followers so maybe they were intimidated by me
Any proof that an appeal has actually been filed?
My bet is that Nike and Alberto will continue to say that the appeals are ongoing, until we stop talking about it all, at which time Alberto is retired (but still getting paid by Nike) and then we will find out that appeals were squashed years ago
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
NOP is gone but, the athletes will continue to be paid by Nike. It will be a quiet winter and a new re-branded club will emerge by spring 2020. The roster will be essentially the same with a few more international athletes (to spread goodwill), a couple of respected assistant coaches, and an "Sports Ethics and Compliance" officer added to the mix. Pete Julian will head the new squad. "We will be committed to clean sport and the highest ethical yada, yada...while committing to full transparency yada, yada..."
Win or lose on the appeal, Salazar is done and was very likely headed into retirement after Tokyo before this blew up. I expect Rupp to bow out in 2021 after an attempt to win Boston or NYC.
Parker will suffer some short term embarrassment but, so long as the shareholders and institutional traders are bullish on the brand, he will survive this. In fact, outside of LRC, his involvement will be largely forgotten by next week and the PR people are already spinning this as, "Parker showed bold leadership by taking action to eliminate any hint of impropriety on the part of corporate by closing down NOP!".
2020 headlines from Tokyo: Hassan wins double gold, Brazier gets first Oly 800 gold for US since Dave Wottle, Kejelcha medals for Ethiopia at 10K, and Engels, Hull, and Klosterhalfen all make their respective event finals. A great showing for the Nike International TC in their first year!
I'd hereby like to be the first to put in for this.
gads wrote:
This statement was just released by Mark Parker to employees.
Mark Parker wrote:
Team,
As you know, last week I shared my thoughts on the recent USADA ruling regarding Alberto Salazar and The Oregon Project.
I want to reiterate that Nike has always tried to put the athlete and their needs at the front of all our decisions. While the panel found there was no orchestrated doping, no finding that performance enhancing drugs have ever been used on Oregon Project athletes and went out of its way to note Alberto’s desire to follow all rules, unfortunately, Alberto can no longer coach while the appeal is pending.
This situation, along with ongoing unsubstantiated assertions, is a distraction for many of the athletes and is compromising their ability to focus on their training and competition needs. I have therefore made the decision to wind down the Oregon Project. We will help all of our athletes in this transition as they choose the coaching set up that is right for them.
And, as we have said, we will continue to support Alberto in his appeal as a four-year suspension for someone who acted in good faith is wrong.
Thanks,
Mark Parker
Chairman, President and CEO, NIKE, Inc.
Bloomberg article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-11/nike-to-shut-down-oregon-project-after-top-coach-is-banned
Meet me in the same spot for practice on Monday. I will have your new T-Shirts.
Rebrand and repackage the same crap.
Marketing 101
Ernest wrote:
This is a great day for American Running.
The Gouchers will be popping a second bottle of Champagne tonight!
I doubt it. They're probably wishing they never let things get so bad between Adam and Salazar that they got removed from the project (even though Kara was begging in emails to be taken back), and then tried to take revenge by making drug accusations; thinking they could walk away as untainted and even heroes, and that hasn't been the case, since plently is in the public domain that they were on thyroid meds, before NOP.
Al Capone and Al Salazar wrote:
gads wrote:
This statement was just released by Mark Parker to employees.
Bloomberg article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-11/nike-to-shut-down-oregon-project-after-top-coach-is-bannedMeet me in the same spot for practice on Monday. I will have your new T-Shirts.
Rebrand and repackage the same crap.
Marketing 101
When Nike FIRES someone or bans them, then I will take this seriously.
Einoc wrote:
Ironically this forum and all the crap talking, allegations and haters likely contributed to the downfall of NOP.
This forum is either the biggest fans of the sport or ex athletes who never came close to the success of some of the NOP guys and would do anything to see them all banned just out of shear jealousy, it’s truly sad. Rather than supporting our top end athletes Americans rather choose to hate them. Today is a sad day for distance running.
I agree with everything you said, only in reverse..
A bloody great day for distance running, cheats got caught.
Llolollpllolo wrote:
I agree that this is a sad end result for NOP. They should have stayed and tried to revamp and come back stronger after the turmoil. Perhaps Alberto wins his appeal. Instead they choose to completely fold. This does not say anything about the athletes, but the weak minds running the show. But since they're completely gone now, NOP will live on like an urban legend that's actually a true story. It's a joke that fraudsters such as Jama Aden and Renato Canova can do whatever they want, yet someone who tries to stay within the rules goes down. This sport is a joke.
Rosa’s stable still has Nike support along with exclusive gear. He’s clearly better about compartmentalizing his operation and minimizing exposure than Salazar.
gads wrote:
This statement was just released by Mark Parker to employees.
Mark Parker wrote:
Team,
As you know, last week I shared my thoughts on the recent USADA ruling regarding Alberto Salazar and The Oregon Project.
I want to reiterate that Nike has always tried to put the athlete and their needs at the front of all our decisions. While the panel found there was no orchestrated doping, no finding that performance enhancing drugs have ever been used on Oregon Project athletes and went out of its way to note Alberto’s desire to follow all rules, unfortunately, Alberto can no longer coach while the appeal is pending.
This situation, along with ongoing unsubstantiated assertions, is a distraction for many of the athletes and is compromising their ability to focus on their training and competition needs. I have therefore made the decision to wind down the Oregon Project. We will help all of our athletes in this transition as they choose the coaching set up that is right for them.
And, as we have said, we will continue to support Alberto in his appeal as a four-year suspension for someone who acted in good faith is wrong.
Thanks,
Mark Parker
Chairman, President and CEO, NIKE, Inc.
Bloomberg article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-11/nike-to-shut-down-oregon-project-after-top-coach-is-banned
Interesting read between the lines: They don't claim Alberto is innocent, only that he acted in good faith. And they don't say that the suspension is wrong altogether, only that a four-year suspension is wrong.
Looks as if their lawyers don't see a chance to win the trial and will instead plead forextenuating circumstances.
just like the soviets wrote:
And taking a page from the Soviets, the purge of the history books (the internet in today's world) has begun:
https://twitter.com/mariofraioli/status/1182456698386042880?s=21
Internets 101: What happens on the internet stays on the internet.
http://web.archive.org/web/20190920183959/https://nikeoregonproject.com/Ernest wrote:
Years after (allegedly) being given a pill for a non-restricted drug, Kara Goucher's long struggle seems concluded.
Salazar has a 4-year ban (though she wants it to be lifetime).
Her other fervent wish, that the NOP which once nurtured her be shut down, has finally come true.
While a few pampered athletes may lose resources, and while Nike and NOP staff who supported them may lose jobs, what really matters is justice.
This is a great day for American Running.
The Gouchers will be popping a second bottle of Champagne tonight!
Does this mean the Gouchers can disappear,no more crying ,no more chest thumping. Maybe the biggest win of this whole thing.
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
NOP is gone but, the athletes will continue to be paid by Nike. It will be a quiet winter and a new re-branded club will emerge by spring 2020. The roster will be essentially the same with a few more international athletes (to spread goodwill), a couple of respected assistant coaches, and an "Sports Ethics and Compliance" officer added to the mix. Pete Julian will head the new squad. "We will be committed to clean sport and the highest ethical yada, yada...while committing to full transparency yada, yada..."
Win or lose on the appeal, Salazar is done and was very likely headed into retirement after Tokyo before this blew up. I expect Rupp to bow out in 2021 after an attempt to win Boston or NYC.
Parker will suffer some short term embarrassment but, so long as the shareholders and institutional traders are bullish on the brand, he will survive this. In fact, outside of LRC, his involvement will be largely forgotten by next week and the PR people are already spinning this as, "Parker showed bold leadership by taking action to eliminate any hint of impropriety on the part of corporate by closing down NOP!".
2020 headlines from Tokyo: Hassan wins double gold, Brazier gets first Oly 800 gold for US since Dave Wottle, Kejelcha medals for Ethiopia at 10K, and Engels, Hull, and Klosterhalfen all make their respective event finals. A great showing for the Nike International TC in their first year!
This is well-founded, just one objection: They are bullish on the brand, not on the CEO, and there are Parker's mails which have become publicly known. Investors might tell Nike that people who are publicly suspected to be involved into wrongdoing aren't good for the business.
Not the first Alberto Salazar-affiliated Nike team to be shut down. In the '80s Athletics West, the team Salazar ran for as a professional, was shuttered after one of their athletes was found dead in the team hq bathroom. Within weeks, AW shuttered its doors. PEDs were also a commonality with NOP. Athletics West was known to have peds available for their athletes if they wanted to experiment.
True. I’m happy they are shutting down, NOP was dirty as hell
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
NOP is gone but, the athletes will continue to be paid by Nike. It will be a quiet winter and a new re-branded club will emerge by spring 2020. The roster will be essentially the same with a few more international athletes (to spread goodwill), a couple of respected assistant coaches, and an "Sports Ethics and Compliance" officer added to the mix. Pete Julian will head the new squad. "We will be committed to clean sport and the highest ethical yada, yada...while committing to full transparency yada, yada..."
this is exactly what will happen. They probably will get a new name sponsor like NN team has. Something like Qatar Airways...
LoneStarXC wrote:
This is great news! NOP goes home DEVASTATED!
Hope you hateful lot are happy now. You have got what you want, now see American elite distance running standards drop through the floor.
I heard rumors that Alberto bought some land in UGANDA :D :D :D
Robo. wrote:
LoneStarXC wrote:
This is great news! NOP goes home DEVASTATED!
Hope you hateful lot are happy now. You have got what you want, now see American elite distance running standards drop through the floor.
So what moron. I suppose you miss Lance in the Tour. C’est la vie moron.
Levi.Run wrote:
I heard rumors that Alberto bought some land in UGANDA :D :D :D
He'll have a lot of competition from all the recently arrived Italian coaches there.