Everyone at the top in every sport worth a darn dopes. Accept it. Move on. Enjoy the fireworks show.
Alan
Everyone at the top in every sport worth a darn dopes. Accept it. Move on. Enjoy the fireworks show.
Alan
Whole-heartedly agree.
this is tragic wrote:
What a sad day for the sport. Salazar did everything he could to give his athletes a chance at competing with the East African dopers, but he stepped a little too far over the line and got burned. Now we have a bunch of Americans rejoicing at the fall of their best coach while the Africans continue to dope with impunity. NOP athletes received over-limit L-carnitine infusions, so who cares that EPO is being used full throttle in Ethiopia and Uganda? Truly a disgusting turn of events.
God forbid we as Americans have moral lines we're not willing to cross.
What happened is already spelled out on the open letter:
https://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35522561-alberto-open-letter-part-1
He received the minimum sanction. Possession of 2 prescriptions of testosterone simultaneously for the purpose of testing whether someone could sabotage an athlete. Ironically, he sabotaged himself because possessing 2 prescriptions simultaneously is alone enough to convict that he did not use the prescription as intended, and he admitted to testing on his son and explained exactly what was done. However, that alone was enough for the ban.
Then you have the L-Carnitine infusion, and assuming the evidence remains the same from before, there’s not sufficient evidence to prove whether or not the athletes received more than the limit, but the possibility alone that it could potentially happen and the manner in which the athletes weren’t instructed correctly to report it also leads to an automatic ban.
To be clear, there’s no evidence or reason to believe that any current or former athletes were doping. The L-carnitine infusion (in which none of the athletes could possibly know the amount) even if legal, was not done orderly enough to prove innocence.
Who needs dope when you have cheater shoes... kinda makes the like of “Albuterol” irrelevant.
As bad as this is it probably doesn't impact Rupp's past or future (unless he tests positive, which he hasn't).
minong wrote:
this is tragic wrote:
What a sad day for the sport. Salazar did everything he could to give his athletes a chance at competing with the East African dopers, but he stepped a little too far over the line and got burned. Now we have a bunch of Americans rejoicing at the fall of their best coach while the Africans continue to dope with impunity. NOP athletes received over-limit L-carnitine infusions, so who cares that EPO is being used full throttle in Ethiopia and Uganda? Truly a disgusting turn of events.
God forbid we as Americans have moral lines we're not willing to cross.
I don't think you realize what this means for the rest of the sport. If these guys have been cheating all along with no failed tests...
Ya boi wrote:
As bad as this is it probably doesn't impact Rupp's past or future (unless he tests positive, which he hasn't).
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh my............
fortherecord wrote:
What happened is already spelled out on the open letter:
https://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35522561-alberto-open-letter-part-1He received the minimum sanction. Possession of 2 prescriptions of testosterone simultaneously for the purpose of testing whether someone could sabotage an athlete. Ironically, he sabotaged himself because possessing 2 prescriptions simultaneously is alone enough to convict that he did not use the prescription as intended, and he admitted to testing on his son and explained exactly what was done. However, that alone was enough for the ban.
Then you have the L-Carnitine infusion, and assuming the evidence remains the same from before, there’s not sufficient evidence to prove whether or not the athletes received more than the limit, but the possibility alone that it could potentially happen and the manner in which the athletes weren’t instructed correctly to report it also leads to an automatic ban.
To be clear, there’s no evidence or reason to believe that any current or former athletes were doping. The L-carnitine infusion (in which none of the athletes could possibly know the amount) even if legal, was not done orderly enough to prove innocence.
Nike Corporate Communications showing up to the party, I see...
he will just sit in the stands wearing a fake mustache and a mets cap.
Hardloper wrote:
looser rupp wrote:
It means Rupp and Mobot lose their medals.
That would be a great week for Bekele. 2:01 marathon and another Olympic medal!
Yeah nothing to be concerned with. There. As Alex Hutchinson said
Wow, this is enormous news. It's the anti-doping equivalent of a famous runner fading into the background for a few years so that everyone basically forgets about him, then suddenly popping out of nowhere and running 2:01:41.
Nothing suspicious with Bekele who's the goat again with a a 2:01:41 at age 37.
Well, good bye to the German and Hassan. Not to mention Hasay. Not like we didn’t all know.
My guess is he’ll continue to write their WOs but I suppose without all the grey area boosting they’ll lose their dominance.
Djdjdnsjdjd wrote:
Sounds like very similar information to what we already had. ....Salazar was importing testosterone.
Huh? Although we may have had somewhat definitive info on the L-carnatine, when did we have anything significant on "importing testosterone"?
Testosterone doping is huge.
Hilarious.
Aden et al nothing and Al Sal 4 ?
Seems fair.
And this is the last effing time I want to hear anyone claiming Americans get away with stuff.
Our own ADA is hell bent on skewering any American they can imo. Going back to all that effort to prove Lance did what nearly all cyclists did. Congratu-fccklations USADA.
Other nations ADAs...eh, not so much.
hellonerth wrote:
Shady Al goes bye bye wrote:
What a scumbag this guy is. Glad it happened
Alberto is a sociopath. However, does anybody believe that WOODY KINCAID is clean and running faster than doped Galen Rupp. If so, you have drunk the Koolcaid.
I WANT TO BELIEVE
this is tragic wrote:
What a sad day for the sport. Salazar did everything he could to give his athletes a chance at competing with the East African dopers, but he stepped a little too far over the line and got burned. Now we have a bunch of Americans rejoicing at the fall of their best coach while the Africans continue to dope with impunity. NOP athletes received over-limit L-carnitine infusions, so who cares that EPO is being used full throttle in Ethiopia and Uganda? Truly a disgusting turn of events.
It is possible for people to be happy a cheating coach was caught and still hope that other dopers using EPO are caught, too.
I will agree it's a sad day for the sport.
Adam Apple. wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/49882757makenikegreatagain wrote:
Definitely sounds like Fake News. Can Trump reverse it?
Yep, and so was Mo's buddy Jama Aden (Ethiopian training camps, Sabadell training camps, and trying to bring him to Haile's hotel). If there are any of you that don't doubt Farah's miraculous transformation now, then there is no convincing you.
agip wrote:
God I hate professional sports.
I'm pretty much done with pro track.
enjoy it, boys. I'll be out training and watching Battlebots or something.
Good riddens and thank God you won't post here anymore. Go try to move up a spot in your age-group for the local 5k this weekend. Don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out.
Hahahaha, yes, and here I hoped the PR shills and trolls would shut up. Wow, just wow.
I wonder what 'A Duck' thinks of all this? He used to spend months and hundreds of posts from early in the evening to way past midnight defending NOP. Ah well, shite happens.