it would be nice if we could rely on el k or ghost to really really be boots on the ground in kenya and give us this guys full running history
cause on a for real, 2:14:30? how many "scrub" americans run that?
it would be nice if we could rely on el k or ghost to really really be boots on the ground in kenya and give us this guys full running history
cause on a for real, 2:14:30? how many "scrub" americans run that?
Bluesky wrote:
Ops.. correct name is Violah Jepchumba , not Chepchumba.
Yes that seems to be correct, very fast road racer (surprise, surprise), who has been ripping it up over the half marathon distance (surprise, surprise).
5k
2016 14:46 Praha (CZE) 10 SEP 2016
10k
2017 30:25 Praha (CZE) 09 SEP 2017
2016 30:24 Praha (CZE) 10 SEP 2016
2015 32:09 Casablanca (MAR) 07 JUN 2015
2014 32:21 Paderborn (GER) 19 APR 2014
Half Marathon
2017 1:05:22 Praha (CZE) 01 APR 2017
2016 1:05:51 Praha (CZE) 02 APR 2016
2015 1:09:29 Udine (ITA) 20 SEP 2015
2014 1:13:20 Remich (LUX) 28 SEP 2014
So nobody can claim that she isn't elite.
m!ndweak wrote:
found it....strange typing his name + iaaf profile on google didnt get me sh*t...so i just went to the iaaf page and typed his name in
well haters and nay sayers....im ready, spray your hate filled insults at me and call me offensive names and mock me but here it is......now how close was i?
OUTDOOR
MARATHON VIEW GRAPH
PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE
2018 2:10:44 Rotterdam (NED) 08 APR 2018
2017 2:12:17 Athina (GRE) 12 NOV 2017
2016 2:11:47 Metz (FRA) 09 OCT 2016
2015 2:14:31 Eindhoven (NED) 11 OCT 2015
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/samuel-kalalei-302438looks like he started saucing at least in 2015 but thats just a fallacy or whatever these experts call it
Thanks for finding the profile. He finished 7th there at Rotterdam (East Africans swept 1 thru 7). I'm assuming an OOC test on the June 4 positive? If he's part of the ABP, I wondering if they saw something at Rotterdam than precipitated target testing and they got him on the OCC test?
https://results.sporthive.com/events/6386505967023513344/races/419161M!ndweak is to doping threads what COACH JS is to training threads.
Sad, but true.
#threadkillers
More on his performances here, bottom of page:
m!ndweak wrote:
this is because el k.....isnt from or living in kenya
im pretty sure he is a brit who visits kenya, and claims to know all sorts of insider stuff
I'm quite thick-skinned and I let most of what is said about me here, however ludicrous, slide. But please refrain from calling me "a Brit".
El Keniano wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
That was hilarious. All of it.
What’s hilarious is almost zero Brits and yanks being busted, implying that no one is cheating in those countries.
Maybe or maybe not!
At the present time, all we have is testing, and the Brits and yanks are being tested. No Brits or yanks are running times that are so incredible as not be believed. Testing is not a guarantee that no one is cheating; however, in the West, running is not life or death or way out of a life of poverty. Most runners in the West are capable of making far more money not running than running. Most runners in the West won't dope because they know it is too risky. Also, in the West, because of testing there is a limit to how much you can dope. If you choose to dope, you can only take small dosages which are undetectable within a short period of time.
El Keniano wrote:
m!ndweak wrote:
this is because el k.....isnt from or living in kenya
im pretty sure he is a brit who visits kenya, and claims to know all sorts of insider stuff
I'm quite thick-skinned and I let most of what is said about me here, however ludicrous, slide. But please refrain from calling me "a Brit".
Sure, sure.
Funny how a wealthy guy like Mohammed Farah preferred to train in run down village of Kenya.
Oh ya, forgot, his friend Freddie was there to pace him.
http://honestsport.com/2017/08/11/revealed-sir-mo-farahs-training-partner-filmed-buying-epo-kenya/
i agree.i find it very strange,and suspicious.ive noticed a lot of eastern europeans are testing positive after theyve retired,due to re testing,but im thinking 'where are the americans?brits?french? jamaicans ? dutch? others?' why arent they being popped,especially their sprinters?theyre all on various cocktails of drugs,i can see it with my own eyes.
Submit wrote:
Funny how a wealthy guy like Mohammed Farah preferred to train in run down village of Kenya.
Oh ya, forgot, his friend Freddie was there to pace him.
http://honestsport.com/2017/08/11/revealed-sir-mo-farahs-training-partner-filmed-buying-epo-kenya/
I thought epo didn't work on Kenyans? ?
Surely good old Mo wouldn't associate with such a person? ?
Sand Dunes wrote:
Another one bites the dust.
Hi Jamin!
if athletes in the west are being tested,why isnt it working? when i see runners lining up for national championship finals,with muscles popping out in unnatural ways,and looking like cyborgs i know something is amiss.theyre either testing positive,and are protected somehow,or theyre not really being tested,at all.perhaps its bribery,perhaps its corruption,a huge cover up,perhaps the sponsors are seeing to it that they dont get popped,but its all very strange.im from a bodybuilder background,and i know fully well,that most of the sprinters,and many distance runners are on a whole cocktail of drugs.some of them are on hardcore stuff like dianabol,or injectables like deca durabolin,and testosterone.some are on a mix of these.unnatural biceps,huge round capped delts,muscled lats that pop out,traps that stick up in ways that make them look deformed.theres also the dry veiny skin,sunken faces,wide jaws,acne ,adams apples on women.i see it all.as a former bodybuilder,i know what those drugs do,and i know the signs to look for.i also know what a natural physique is,from an unnatural one.ive seen whole national finals where everyone is on the juice.
jeff tallon wrote:
i agree.i find it very strange,and suspicious.ive noticed a lot of eastern europeans are testing positive after theyve retired,due to re testing,but im thinking 'where are the americans?brits?french? jamaicans ? dutch? others?' why arent they being popped,especially their sprinters?theyre all on various cocktails of drugs,i can see it with my own eyes.
I resent the notion that the British would ever do anything wrong. Our Holy Church of England is our moral compass, and our Sports are governed by Lords and Knights of Her Majesty's realm.
Coevett wrote:
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/sport/other-sport/2018-08-07-third-kenyan-athlete-in-10-days-fails-doping-test/
The Kenyans haven't had a clean champion since Julius Korir in '84. No joke.
jeff tallon wrote:
if athletes in the west are being tested,why isnt it working? when i see runners lining up for national championship finals,with muscles popping out in unnatural ways,and looking like cyborgs i know something is amiss.theyre either testing positive,and are protected somehow,or theyre not really being tested,at all.perhaps its bribery,perhaps its corruption,a huge cover up,perhaps the sponsors are seeing to it that they dont get popped,but its all very strange.im from a bodybuilder background,and i know fully well,that most of the sprinters,and many distance runners are on a whole cocktail of drugs.some of them are on hardcore stuff like dianabol,or injectables like deca durabolin,and testosterone.some are on a mix of these.unnatural biceps,huge round capped delts,muscled lats that pop out,traps that stick up in ways that make them look deformed.theres also the dry veiny skin,sunken faces,wide jaws,acne ,adams apples on women.i see it all.as a former bodybuilder,i know what those drugs do,and i know the signs to look for.i also know what a natural physique is,from an unnatural one.ive seen whole national finals where everyone is on the juice.
You're a phony apologist for the E. African dopers, trying to play it off in a roundabout way by talking about all those Westerners on drugs at events that have nothing to do with top level distance running. We see very few people looking like what you describe at races we're talking about. No one is taking d-bol or tren to run a faster 5k at the local turkey trot - or at any level. As for roid users, sure, they're out there. We're concerned with world class athletes running middle and long distance races. Not your local humdrum runs, if you've ever actually been to one at all.
The E. Africans are not tested out of season. They have also been enjoying politically based protection. Mo Farah enjoyed such protection, being an African running as a "Brit". No white boy from London is going to get the forces pushing third world athletes to the fore via drugs behind him. EPO doesn't show like nandrolone.
Barbara Lerner Spectre wrote:
You're a phony apologist for the E. African dopers, trying to play it off in a roundabout way by talking about all those Westerners on drugs at events that have nothing to do with top level distance running. We see very few people looking like what you describe at races we're talking about. No one is taking d-bol or tren to run a faster 5k at the local turkey trot - or at any level. As for roid users, sure, they're out there. We're concerned with world class athletes running middle and long distance races. Not your local humdrum runs, if you've ever actually been to one at all.
The E. Africans are not tested out of season. They have also been enjoying politically based protection. Mo Farah enjoyed such protection, being an African running as a "Brit". No white boy from London is going to get the forces pushing third world athletes to the fore via drugs behind him. EPO doesn't show like nandrolone.
You should try and change your speech when you change your handle, Coevett.
This is just stupid.
Observor of LR threads wrote:
M!ndweak is to doping threads what COACH JS is to training threads.
Sad, but true.
#threadkillers
oh and how is that exactly? cause i dont go with the narrative and try to say EPO doesnt work?
here is the list from the link someone posted
20 Sep 2015 7 1:05:38 RD Half Mara Porto POR SportZone $225
11 Oct 2015 9 2:14:31 RD Marathon Eindhoven NED De Lage Landen Eindhoven
14 Feb 2016 5 2:17:53 RD Marathon Dakar SEN Eiffage de l'Autoroute de Dakar $2,125
04 Jun 2016 4 2:14:46 RD Marathon Stockholm SWE ASICS Stockholm $1,500
09 Oct 2016 2 2:11:47.8 RD Marathon Metz FRA Metz Mirabelle $4,480
12 Mar 2017 6 2:14:50 RD Marathon Barcelona ESP Zurich Barcelona
03 Jun 2017 3 2:12:36 RD Marathon Stockholm SWE Asics Stockholm $2,000
12 Nov 2017 1 2:12:17 RD Marathon Athens GRE Athens Authentic
so you have a guy who runs 2:14-2:17, then 3yrs later pops a 2:10 and gets popped for EPO, and you say im an idiot? or genius? what exaclty are you getting at by comparing me to coach js?
i wonder if its the negative insult wejo would be happy to see all this antagonizing and insulting language
in some ways i agree with you.i know fully well that large numbers of east africans take epo,probably in conjunction with other drugs.milder cutting steroids like winstrol.their coaches probably inject them,or give them strange pills,as part of their training.the africans enjoy protection,and most western athletes do,as well,especially if they get to top leval.occasionally someone tests positive,from africa,or the west,usually athletes who are expendable.
jeff tallon wrote:
in some ways i agree with you.i know fully well that large numbers of east africans take epo,probably in conjunction with other drugs.milder cutting steroids like winstrol.their coaches probably inject them,or give them strange pills,as part of their training.the africans enjoy protection,and most western athletes do,as well,especially if they get to top leval.occasionally someone tests positive,from africa,or the west,usually athletes who are expendable.
How many of these Kenyans do you think are being told that they're just getting vitamin injections, and when they test positive the joke is on them.