aa wrote:... and Torrence’s death possibly being linked to Aden .... who wouldn’t want to remain anonymous? Athletics is great and all, but not worth death.
This is pure stupidity and LR should be ashamed for exploiting David’s death promoting conspiracy theories with No proof. There is nothing to suggests DT’s death was anything but a tragic accident. Yet idiot jon gault wanted to get clicks and promoted a false theory. It’s disgusting. And Johnny should be ashamed.
Spankey wrote:
Gravy wrote:
This is no other than Coach Butthurt. But seriously, he's no more of a rubbing expert than anyone else on these boards.
I’m pretty sure this site has some experts on rubbing it.
hi!
Lol. So let me get this straight. Has anyone that has anonymous bashed a NOP critic (Anonymous Coach B, Meb, etc.) revealed their true identity? If not, you're just a hypocrite.
You bash Anonymous Coach B for not revealing his identity (for which their are plenty of legitimate reasons, considering the crazies on this board and past threats to coaches). You bash Meb for his comments on that podcast and past comments regarding NOP, which he did not do anonymously but apparently did not say them the way that you wanted him to say them.
It really seems simple. Rupp, Alberto, and the NOP will never be in the clear and people will always be suspicious, no matter what happens from here. And the Rupp lovers will attack any critic of Rupp and the NOP.
What I do know is that too many have flown from the NOP coop with plenty of suspicious experiences to speak of and pros more than in the know than common man. There is too much smoke for there not to be a fire. That tells me enough.
rojo is his own worst enemy. it is both comical and sick how obsessed with NOP he is. blows my mind how crazy you are. why won't you just come out and say you are biased against NOP? instead, you create this fictional coach B to air out your grievances but claim you are interviewing someone in the industry to prove that youre not the only one who hates NOP. This seems silly to me because youre always saying how you dont hate NOP. which one is it? dont answer, we all know.
and here comes the really long response where you will try to pick apart everything that has been said and claim you are harder on BTC than NOP, LOL. or you will just delete the post and block me because you are socialist #1. how can you possibly block the truth and the people who speak it if you can't even figure out a simple ad redirect problem?
Anonymous Coach XYZ wrote:
Lol. So let me get this straight. Has anyone that has anonymous bashed a NOP critic (Anonymous Coach B, Meb, etc.) revealed their true identity? If not, you're just a hypocrite.
You bash Anonymous Coach B for not revealing his identity (for which their are plenty of legitimate reasons, considering the crazies on this board and past threats to coaches). You bash Meb for his comments on that podcast and past comments regarding NOP, which he did not do anonymously but apparently did not say them the way that you wanted him to say them.
It really seems simple. Rupp, Alberto, and the NOP will never be in the clear and people will always be suspicious, no matter what happens from here. And the Rupp lovers will attack any critic of Rupp and the NOP.
What I do know is that too many have flown from the NOP coop with plenty of suspicious experiences to speak of and pros more than in the know than common man. There is too much smoke for there not to be a fire. That tells me enough.
Same ol BS. You bash Rupp because you feel he is doping yet you glorify the much more suspicious. Who, pray tell do you think is not doping? I ask because as you claim there is some smoke at NOP, there is at the same time a huge billowing black cloud over the horizon that you're choosing to ignore. You have a sad agenda that's all.
My dream scenario is Hasay out kicking Flanagan in the last 100m, winning by 1s.
It will be glorious to watch.
Brooks Johnson
Coach B's #1 Fan wrote:
Thank you Coach B, just thank you.
"Honestly, I couldn’t give a sh*t,” said Coach B. “The approach and all of the nonsense that the Nike Oregon Project has been up to, it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that I couldn’t care less.”
From:
The Running Experts Sound Off & Tell Us Who Will Win Boston & Whether They’re Rooting for Galen Rupp
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2018/04/running-experts-sound-off-tell-us-will-win-boston-whether-theyre-rooting-galen-rupp/
So bold, yet so anonymous?
Zero props to Coach B. What a stupid article and thread. Total waste of time.
Throwing Shade wrote:
go.rupp wrote:
For me, this sort of anonymous bashing makes Galen into a more sympathetic figure. I'm well aware of all the questions, investigations, etc., but this high-horsing smacks of sour grapes and petty jealousy. It'd be different if they put their names out there.
And Meb's repeated slights of Galen are getting old
"It'd be different if they put their names out there!"
"I'm tired of the guy that's willing to put his name out there!"
Sounds like you'll never be happy with people complaining about a cheater?
Sounds like you'll never be happy with Rupp winning even though he is clean?
Anonymous Coach XYZ wrote:
cwarcarblue11 wrote:
My question is "how many sub 2:10 marathoners has coach B coached?" Or any of the coaches on the panel?
I'm rooting for Galen because he is an actually quality elite marathoner - something America has not had since Ryan hall. I'm all for pushing the limits. In fact, you have to push the limits to be elite.
Best quote from coach B is this: "I respect that they’re willing to push to the limits of every single thing you do in life to get there. [But] number one, that’s never been my approach."
Alberto is the best coach in America right now because he actually tries to have his athletes compete with the best of the best, and is willing to push the limits to get there. I believe he is in the grey area on some things, but hasn't broken any USADA rules. Until there is any proof of that, please stop comparing his athletes to Russians who have been PROVEN to be doping, and to a far worse degree than NOP could ever be doing.
Go Galen! Go Jordan!
You must have missed the part in the leaked USADA reports where Dr Jeffrey Brown of the NOP potentially broke rules by applying excess dosages of l-carnitine and falsifying the records.
You must have missed the part where the authorities have already looked at that potential allegation and have concluded...
Wait for it...
There's nothing there.
(Do not pass go. Do not collect $100).
Dream scenario wrote:
My dream scenario is Hasay out kicking Flanagan in the last 100m, winning by 1s.
It will be glorious to watch.
Only thing better than that would be Flanagan then tripping and falling face first losing all her front teeth.
New theory: Coach B is actually Salazar and trolling all of you.
We know that since the "investigation" started, every NOP athlete is being tested a lot. I read somewhere on LRC and elsewhere that Rupp was the most tested athlete in 2017. I'm guessing that Hasay is tested a lot as well. Meanwhile the Bowerman "babes" are being tested relatively lightly. If anything, the most likely "clean" runners are coming from the NOP. To believe otherwise means you think the NOP has mastered some sort of science of "beating" the test for PEDs or is in some sort of conspiracy to hide the positive results for PEDs. I just laugh at these coaches and athletes who can't support or be proud of the accomplishments of NOP athletes like Rupp and Hasay. I say to them: prove your athlete is "cleaner" - which of course, they cannot do.
My thoughts on the article:
1. Coach B, as well as Coach A and C really sunk to the level of all of us on the message boards. We don't know who they are and they are anonymously trashing Rupp. Sure you can make Rojo's argument that it is career suicide...but many people who have come forward still have jobs. Every time an athlete or coach rips on the message boards or calls them trash, think about how these coaches were willing to act like us.
2. On the reverse side, props to Danny Mackey, Steve Magness and Kara Goucher for putting their names on their comments. Notice how people who know they are being quoted use a little nicer language? Also, have all their careers been ruined? It seems like Danny has done quite well for himself at Brooks and Steve seems to be doing just fine himself. Maybe there are other ways to have careers than working for the company that you hate so much.
3. Rojo claims this was to demonstrate how elites feel about NOP. I doubt the Brojos are going to get a very balanced set of coaches to return their calls, given this site's reputation when it comes to NOP.
4. Even if 100% of elites hate Rupp, I think it is interesting that ~60% of the Letsrun visitors are rooting for Rupp.
5. It is interesting that Rupp, who has had more resources poured into finding out how he is cheating than any athlete in the history of track and field, has never actually tested positive for anything or really been found to break significant rules. Either we can not catch anybody, or Rupp is the most clean athlete in the history of Track and Field. People are still going on about L-carnitine?? Come on, at least talk about something that might truly give a significant performance advantage. You want to talk about testosterone, fine. Don't talk to me about bolus fluids and L-carnitine when there are real dopers out there.
6. Again it is pathetic how the USADA can't find anything so has to "leak" unproven documents as a political move. Either you are incompetent or you have to admit that Salazar/Rupp may very well have been TRYING to stay within the rules (even if some things they did were sketchy).
7. I am surprised at how all the coaches think Molly Huddle will be the top American. After Shalane's New York win and Jordan's Chicago performance that would be crazy. I hope it happens, but I think it would be a huge upset.
8. I used to root for Rupp to lose pretty much every 10k at USAs for about 10 years. The silliness of the people talking about him has turned me into a fan of his in the marathon. Or maybe it is that he could likely beat any American by about 5+ minutes right now.
even better wrote:
Dream scenario wrote:
My dream scenario is Hasay out kicking Flanagan in the last 100m, winning by 1s.
It will be glorious to watch.
Only thing better than that would be Flanagan then tripping and falling face first losing all her front teeth.
hatehatehatehatehate
Rojo was the 2nd Brother Johnson, thus he is Coach B.
Just saw the poll results and the MAJORITY are rooting for Galen Rupp at Boston, so Mackey, Coach B., and everyone not rooting for Rupp is a damn MINORITY and LOSER in life.
Yeah ok. What nonsense wrote:
Anonymous Coach XYZ wrote:
Lol. So let me get this straight. Has anyone that has anonymous bashed a NOP critic (Anonymous Coach B, Meb, etc.) revealed their true identity? If not, you're just a hypocrite.
You bash Anonymous Coach B for not revealing his identity (for which their are plenty of legitimate reasons, considering the crazies on this board and past threats to coaches). You bash Meb for his comments on that podcast and past comments regarding NOP, which he did not do anonymously but apparently did not say them the way that you wanted him to say them.
It really seems simple. Rupp, Alberto, and the NOP will never be in the clear and people will always be suspicious, no matter what happens from here. And the Rupp lovers will attack any critic of Rupp and the NOP.
What I do know is that too many have flown from the NOP coop with plenty of suspicious experiences to speak of and pros more than in the know than common man. There is too much smoke for there not to be a fire. That tells me enough.
Same ol BS. You bash Rupp because you feel he is doping yet you glorify the much more suspicious. Who, pray tell do you think is not doping? I ask because as you claim there is some smoke at NOP, there is at the same time a huge billowing black cloud over the horizon that you're choosing to ignore. You have a sad agenda that's all.
What you wrote makes zero sense. I have no agenda, just sharing thoughts.
I also don't care for Rupp and Alberto because I am not sure what they have done for the sport besides enrich themselves. Plenty of other top athletes have given back to teammates, running community, the sport, etc. Look at the contributions of Flanagan and Meb, for example. All that I see in the wake of Rupp, Alberto, and the NOP is suspicious activity and a load of athletes that have fled far, far away.
Yeah ok. What nonsense wrote:
Anonymous Coach XYZ wrote:
Lol. So let me get this straight. Has anyone that has anonymous bashed a NOP critic (Anonymous Coach B, Meb, etc.) revealed their true identity? If not, you're just a hypocrite.
You bash Anonymous Coach B for not revealing his identity (for which their are plenty of legitimate reasons, considering the crazies on this board and past threats to coaches). You bash Meb for his comments on that podcast and past comments regarding NOP, which he did not do anonymously but apparently did not say them the way that you wanted him to say them.
It really seems simple. Rupp, Alberto, and the NOP will never be in the clear and people will always be suspicious, no matter what happens from here. And the Rupp lovers will attack any critic of Rupp and the NOP.
What I do know is that too many have flown from the NOP coop with plenty of suspicious experiences to speak of and pros more than in the know than common man. There is too much smoke for there not to be a fire. That tells me enough.
Same ol BS. You bash Rupp because you feel he is doping yet you glorify the much more suspicious. Who, pray tell do you think is not doping? I ask because as you claim there is some smoke at NOP, there is at the same time a huge billowing black cloud over the horizon that you're choosing to ignore. You have a sad agenda that's all.
So everyone is dirtier than Rupp? That’s your stance?
How pathetic - anonymous coach who thinks he/she knows better for Rupp makes lame claims about methods with zero actual evidence that any rule breaking has ever occurred. It's amazing Rupp isn't running on "pure hate" from the lame, biased attacks here.
Regardless of whether you respect or hate Rupp (seems like most of the people on this site), the guy has a volume of achievements. But, you have more respect for the seemingly limitless number of unregulated dopers from Africa, and their European coaches. You all are just insane...
Don't call me a racist. Clearly Kichoge is the greatest marathoner of all time, and I don't believe he ever had a need to dope -- he's just that good.