My Name Here wrote:
I've said many many times that Jarmila reminded me of Roger Daltrey.
Who?
My Name Here wrote:
I've said many many times that Jarmila reminded me of Roger Daltrey.
Who?
Burt Macklin wrote:
Middle Age/Middle Distance wrote:Nobody who was around in the '80s thought Kratochilova was clean. Nobody.
Everybody knew Ben Johnson was dirty.
Everybody knew the East Germans were dirty.
Everybody knew the USSR was dirty.
This was all settled decades ago, you apparently just weren't around to see it.
After the wall came done thousands of documents were day-lighted from the Eastern Bloc that detailed in great specificity who took what, how often and how much. The fact that Marita Koch still maintains her innocence is Trumpian in its audacity. Also Frank Shorter won the Olympic Marathon twice, because neither of Waldemar Cierpinski's titles count.
tl;dr ALL Eastern Bloc performances were dirty. A few of them didn't know they were dirty.
Ummm ever heard of BALCO?
Mary Decker?
Justin Gatlin?
Tyson Gay?
Jon Drummond?
Greg Foster?
Regina Jacobs?
Marion Jones?
Carl Lewis?
Lashawn Merritt?
Tim Montgomery?
Dennis Mitchell?
Antonio Pettigrew?
Butch Reynolds?
Mike Rodgers?
Duane Ross?
Wallace Spearmon?
Larry Wade?
Kelli White?
Bernard Williams?
Diane Williams?
Jerome Young?
Keep telling yourself that everyone but the US cheats bud
you forgot carl lewis
Right. Plus USOC covered up over 100 positive doping tests of our athletes. That is well known, but the names still haven't come out yet.
Phantasy Star wrote:
She doped, sure, but erasing her record and handing it to some CERA-loaded "19-year-old" Kenyan or whatever is even more laughable. Erase the bullshit records down the road, once true drug enforcement is in place.
I agree with this 100%.
I'm all for a clean sport, but the fact of the matter is there will never be a guarantee of any world record being clean. Records yeah have stood for years should remain until broken. Erasing all of them just gives room for the post-2005 maybe/probably doped world records to take over the old ones.
I saw her at the 1985 Pepsi meet at UCLA where she did a 400/800 double an hour and 20 minutes apart. She was working harder than Semenya does during her races. Her upper body was even bigger than in the pics posted here from a few years earlier. It was obvious she was juiced but she still made the biggest impression of the meet. Pretty incredible. (I'm not condoning the obvious doping).
Kellogg:bonk.at.mile20.ForSURE wrote:
Jvjv wrote:http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/ee2ba60d4e6c4b1b9794ea1e87b64757/jarmila-kratochvilova-cze-competing-in-zurich-in-1982-dgn1ce.jpg[quote]inthepdx wrote:
Maybe she never doped and was the first Intersex athlete to have big time success.
Jarmila would destroy Caster Semenya with her 47.99 400m speed.
Hey Jarmila, is that a gigantic hip-flexor in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?
sealions wrote:
Looks like a bigger version of Roger Daltrey !
I knew it. I had been thinking for days that Kratochvilova looked like a famous Brit but the closest that I could think of was Rob Brydon.
Cycling is in the Air wrote:
bmg wrote:This reminds me of Armstrong vs. Ullrich. Both titles should be either ignored or vacated.
Ullrich gets to keep all his titles, including his prestigious 97 TdF. Only Armstrong got screwed on that deal when he was stripped of all 7 of his wins while the other dopers of that era get to keep their titles.
Indurain was the worst of the lot, nobody talks about him.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Kellogg:bonk.at.mile20.ForSURE wrote:http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/ee2ba60d4e6c4b1b9794ea1e87b64757/jarmila-kratochvilova-cze-competing-in-zurich-in-1982-dgn1ce.jpgJarmila would destroy Caster Semenya with her 47.99 400m speed.
Hey Jarmila, is that a gigantic hip-flexor in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?
the thighs! jeezus.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Indurain was the worst of the lot, nobody talks about him.
Big Mig kept his mouth shut, was a humble winner, wasn't a trouble maker, won his 5 Tours and quietly retired. He's a hero in Spain, and I believe there's race or two named after him.
Lance should have been more like Big Mig, and kept his mouth shut and his aggressive personality toned-down. You can't bring a pro-wrestling attitude to that level of cycling and expect all will be well & good.
ivvv wrote:
Of course pro athletes dope. I can't believe people think that "clean" competition is even possible.
Many people do think that "clean" competition is very possible because they keep on passing the drug tests. And many others believe it's only the lower-level eiltes who would dope, not any of the top elites winning big-time events. Oops...wait a minute; didn't an Olympic champion & top elite just test positive for EPO? ðŸ˜
i showed that picture to a bodybuilder friend of mine(and doctor) and he said "that is not a woman,at least not chromosonally".he felt shes either transgender,or born with an intersex condition.
Notice she is wearing adidas shoes... thats why she was fast... duh.
Bad Wigins wrote:
My Name Here wrote:I've said many many times that Jarmila reminded me of Roger Daltrey.
Who?
Who's next?
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2016/08/The-Who-Whos-Next-Cover-Photo.jpg?w=600&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89Going Mobile wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:Who?
Who's next?
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2016/08/The-Who-Whos-Next-Cover-Photo.jpg?w=600&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89
Proof that Jarmila peed standing up.
we need to erase all these IGF-1 lr3 era records .
good bye 100/200/400/800m/ 110mh mens records .
and soon to be 1500m record
currently track is the dirtiest it has ever been due to
this peptide and the few choosen athletes using it .
lack of testing in certain areas and collusion that still ongoing
also the best ped to ever hit track ,
and iaaf / wada make sure never heard of it , beyond dirty ,cover up .
Do you think she doped, or do you think she is in the same boat as Semenya in the gender gray area?
Phantasy Star wrote:
She doped, sure, but erasing her record and handing it to some CERA-loaded "19-year-old" Kenyan or whatever is even more laughable. Erase the bullshit records down the road, once true drug enforcement is in place.
The only ones who have bitter fingers are the 99% of the American High School youths who fail to go under Jarmilia's rightfuly deserved World 800M
record. I love her so much.
Bad Wigins wrote:
My Name Here wrote:I've said many many times that Jarmila reminded me of Roger Daltrey.
Who?
Who are you?
naturist wrote:
Do you think she doped, or do you think she is in the same boat as Semenya in the gender gray area?
Phantasy Star wrote:She doped, sure, but erasing her record and handing it to some CERA-loaded "19-year-old" Kenyan or whatever is even more laughable. Erase the bullshit records down the road, once true drug enforcement is in place.
I wonder if this is actually the case and perhaps she has since, post-athletic career, gone on a testosterone suppression regimen that has given her a more feminine visage.
