Oh My God!!! 1:43.55!!!!!!!! for Brazier

Symmonds ran 1:43.03 (just. 08 back of his London time) in 2013.

I'm a friend of Brazier's from his high school, Kenowa Hills--he broke his hand so the thing on his hand is a brace for that

jjjjjjj wrote:

You can't look at his 27.0 last 200m and say that he was tying up in the home straight, because first of all, he was sitting on a tiring McBride for quite a ways after 600m on the outside--that is, waiting until the right moment to pass him, not because he couldn't pass him--and then after getting a clear separation he took the pedal off the metal and absolutely eased up in the last 20-30m. That right there was probably a high 1:42 in exactly the same circumstances but with McBride challenging him to the line.

It looks clear to me that after getting a lot of drafting from McBride, he was working hard to get past him on the last bend and then was pretty flat out along the home straight. The face on camera shows he is tired and 'winded' somewhat at the end. There was no slowing down through easing off at the end. He was slowing down less than McBride over the last 200m - 13.4, 13.7,- but he was still slowing down. He was certainly not capable of running the last 100m 0.6 secs faster.

There is a big jump from 1:43.55 to 1:42 high.

The craziest thing when u think about past US champions. He ran faster than the great khadevis Robinson has ever run despite his experience and success on the US and euro circuit!

Brazier would have run 1:46 on the track Ryun had to run on!

No matter where he runs the rest of the year (Juniors or Oly Trials) I don't think he'll break 1:44.25.

He hasn't gone under 1:43 yet? Seems to me there were two Americans under that in one race several years ago and didn't even medal.

The 800 the last few years is a soft event even on the international level. Brazier is just the best of what's out there.

You're responding to a 5 year old thread

Brazier went 1:42 and change in Doha in 2019

So he hasn't gone under 1:42 yet? I still say the event is soft.

1:40.91 Rudisha is an outlier like 2:00:28 Kipchoge(or some legal time like that)

If we have an American running sub 1:43, we should really value that in itself.

Otherwise, we don't like Centro in the 1500 because of his slower, tactical time .

We don't like Brazier compared to Rudisha.

Do we like anyone?

Just Pre because he was Pre?

Stoppit Smith wrote:

1:40.91 Rudisha is an outlier like 2:00:28 Kipchoge(or some legal time like that)

If we have an American running sub 1:43, we should really value that in itself.

Otherwise, we don't like Centro in the 1500 because of his slower, tactical time .

We don't like Brazier compared to Rudisha.

Do we like anyone?

Just Pre because he was Pre?

We?

Yes.

That seems to be the prevailing tone of letsrun posts.

Centro's gold was different because it was slower.

American 800 running is soft because our runners can't beat Rudisha.

But Pre? Oh Pre! That man was the best

It's a weird mix.