Recent college grad. Having a hell of a time finding a job.

BBA degree wrote:

I'm a college senior at a top state school majoring in business. I come from a middle class background, with no connections whatsoever. I have a mediocre gpa. And yet, I have a 130k job lined up in ibanking (granted I'll be working 80+ hours a week), and turned down multiple offers / interviews.

Does you company hire engineers? If so, let me know!

It kind of pisses me off that a joke major like business starts off at $130k and a legit major like engineering starts off at $55k (guess what, even engineers work long hours).

For one, engineers are way smarter and contribute tangible products to society, and two, I-banking is basically the business of leeching money from people. I don't get it. Probably another reason why the country is circling the drain.

Bad Wigins wrote:

No Way wrote:

Believe it or not, I'm familiar with the system. B.S also generally requires more lab work.

That depends on the school. Many schools require nothing more than a year of college-level math. So all the "BS" part really tells anyone is the least common denonimator, which is that you passed algebra. That ain't much.

If you finish a science major, calling it a BS is redundant. If you learned a language in the process, you might as well show breadth of education by calling it a BA.

Math majors exceed BA language requirements, so they're either BS or BA, take your pick.

I'm not sure what you're arguing. I said it all depends on the program, but B.S. degrees generally require more math and labs. That's the truth. That's why there are two different designations.

If you go to a school that offers both, and you opt for the B.A. (unless you go out of your way to take extra math and labs), you're going to have fewer math and lab courses than a person with a B.S.

I don't get your math major language requirements..Math majors at my school didn't take a language (heck, I'm not sure my school offered language courses).

No Way wrote:

Math majors at my school didn't take a language (heck, I'm not sure my school offered language courses).

They probably did. You can get a degree in Spanish at MIT.

norcaldude wrote:

It kind of pisses me off that a joke major like business starts off at $130k and a legit major like engineering starts off at $55k (guess what, even engineers work long hours).

For one, engineers are way smarter and contribute tangible products to society, and two, I-banking is basically the business of leeching money from people. I don't get it. Probably another reason why the country is circling the drain.

You probably don't even know what banks do. And for the record, finance can require a lot more real math than engineering. Your undergraduate differential equations class doesn't count. I taught calculus in grad school before going into banking, and most of my students were engineering majors - I've been a lot more impressed with people I've met in finance. There are plenty of very, very sharp people, and many have graduate degrees in very quantitative fields. You also have to be able to think on your feet, something engineering doesn't usually require.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

No Way wrote:

Math majors at my school didn't take a language (heck, I'm not sure my school offered language courses).

They probably did. You can get a degree in Spanish at MIT.

I actually checked after I posted that. My school didn't offer language courses, however we had a deal where you could take them at the local SUNY.

You also cannot get a degree in Spanish, or any other foreign language, at MIT. They do offer courses on the subjects.

No Way wrote:

You also cannot get a degree in Spanish, or any other foreign language, at MIT. They do offer courses on the subjects.

MIT offers 20 undergraduate majors within the School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences. As with most majors at MIT, these consist of a core of required subjects and a set of electives, and combine the study of basic principles with practical applications. The major course of study is designed to prepare students for careers in that field or for graduate study. Most students who major within the School do so through one of the following 12 departments, sections, and programs:

Major Fields

Anthropology

Comparative Media Studies

Economics

Foreign Languages & Literatures

History

Linguistics

Literature

Music

Philosophy

Political Science

Science, Technology, and Society

Writing and Humanistic Studies

MikeM would it be possible to email / talk to you? I'm a biomed grad looking for a career. Leave a message or something, and I can give out an e-mail address.

norcaldude wrote:

Does you company hire engineers? If so, let me know!

It kind of pisses me off that a joke major like business starts off at $130k and a legit major like engineering starts off at $55k (guess what, even engineers work long hours).

For one, engineers are way smarter and contribute tangible products to society, and two, I-banking is basically the business of leeching money from people. I don't get it. Probably another reason why the country is circling the drain.

Engineers can make great money, especially if they start their own companies. Look at people like Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Thomas Edison.

You can still make good money at a company, but you're probably going to need an advanced degree. The issue facing engineers is competition with 3rd world engineers, which finance guys don't face yet. They will eventually, though.

Hey, fair enough. I'm not sure how I missed it because I looked right at the first page you linked to. Will I be banned from Letsrun if I admit that I was wrong?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

No Way wrote:

You also cannot get a degree in Spanish, or any other foreign language, at MIT. They do offer courses on the subjects.

MIT offers 20 undergraduate majors within the School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences. As with most majors at MIT, these consist of a core of required subjects and a set of electives, and combine the study of basic principles with practical applications. The major course of study is designed to prepare students for careers in that field or for graduate study. Most students who major within the School do so through one of the following 12 departments, sections, and programs:

Major Fields

Anthropology

Comparative Media Studies

Economics

Foreign Languages & Literatures

History

Linguistics

Literature

Music

Philosophy

Political Science

Science, Technology, and Society

Writing and Humanistic Studies

http://shass.mit.edu/undergraduate/majorshttp://web.mit.edu/fll/www/languages/MMC.shtml

No Way wrote:

Hey, fair enough. I'm not sure how I missed it because I looked right at the first page you linked to. Will I be banned from Letsrun if I admit that I was wrong?

You weren't just wrong, you were trying to call someone else out on being wrong, which makes you look like a d-bag.

And you probably missed it because engineers can't read good.

4th eye blind wrote:

No Way wrote:

Hey, fair enough. I'm not sure how I missed it because I looked right at the first page you linked to. Will I be banned from Letsrun if I admit that I was wrong?

You weren't just wrong, you were trying to call someone else out on being wrong, which makes you look like a d-bag.

And you probably missed it because engineers can't read good.

Well, I admitted my mistake. Also, I'm not an engineer.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Besides, you can get a one bedroom place in the Sunset District for $1200 per month.

Where?

Oh, you meant the one (1) listing in the Sunset below $1200, which also doesn't have a kitchen?!

Noticed a comment re: military a page back. If you're really desperate, the military is basically always hiring. I wouldn't do it personally, but if you are going to go bankrupt without an immediate income, it's an option.