Yes, big boys have "man boobs" but the "extra fat" is just that. 100percentfemale, the girl boobs turn men on. So what they are just "extra fat." They are hot, and we like them.
Some hairy big sweaty thrower doesn't turn me on. (No offense)
Yes, big boys have "man boobs" but the "extra fat" is just that. 100percentfemale, the girl boobs turn men on. So what they are just "extra fat." They are hot, and we like them.
Some hairy big sweaty thrower doesn't turn me on. (No offense)
what part of this are some of you people missing? fogel, a man who has clear anger management issues and in fact full force punched a westwood high school kid in the face for calling him by his first name, was getting hostile towards one of tom's athletes who is known as one to stick-up for himself. tom, knowing that a serious altercation was about to happen, defused the situation by addressing fogel, who then went on to assault him. fogel shouldn't even be there in the first place. in any other school district he would just be finishing his prison sentence.
Tom had all his kids motivated and running well. Isn't that all you can really ask for? Tom made these kids believe in themselves and got a small school to be a dominant force in New England. The guy deserves some credit.
What does Fogel's past actions have to do with the price of tea in china? The kid let his team break a rule, made a snotty comment to the AD, got fired, proceeded to go on a run with kids he was no longer the coach of, came back had to get escorted off the property but not before he made a scene and made it impossible to get rehired.
Was the coach thinking oh man this guy hit a kid a few years ago? How would he have known that he wasn't even there then. He was probably breaking 20 year old records or something in college or in his own head. Who knows. If he had all this info on the AD then I'm sure its because this had been simmering and it just came to a boil at that moment.
Why are people talking about how you can't run with your shirt on in hot weather in regards to this story? When has it been even remotely hot this spring in Boston?
Informed wrote:
what part of this are some of you people missing? fogel, a man who has clear anger management issues and in fact full force punched a westwood high school kid in the face for calling him by his first name, was getting hostile towards one of tom's athletes who is known as one to stick-up for himself. tom, knowing that a serious altercation was about to happen, defused the situation by addressing fogel, who then went on to assault him. fogel shouldn't even be there in the first place. in any other school district he would just be finishing his prison sentence.
Poster writes like Tom Davis.
The coach was being a smart ass. Why did he say "he's technically wearing a shirt"? He should have told the kid to put his shirt on.
75 degrees does not require shirtless running. I live in an area where it sometimes gets over 100 and is very humid in the summer. I sometimes wear a shirt during this. It's not that bad.
Writer of English wrote:
Really?.... really? wrote:http://masssummerrunning.weebly.com/This is Tom's running club over the summer for HS kids. I did think this paragraph was kind of funny...
On average, athletes coached by Tom Davis see an average improvement of roughly 14 seconds per mile. This is an average, but with high school athletes, the improvement can be much more significant. If you put in the right work at the right effort over the summer, you can look to improve upwards to 2 minutes in the 5k (Westwood high school averaged over 2 minutes per 5k in Tom's first season of coaching there) depending on your background and level of previous training.
This little passage is a wake up call for all of the high school and college kids who blow off learning to write in a coherent manner because they're planning on going into some profession that they believe does not require writing skills. At some point, you are going to have to communicate in written English (even if you are a track coach). If you learn to write while you're in high school, you can avoid a lot of embarrassment when this day comes.
I'll restate in a way that this guy might understand. On average, people who learn to write are better off on average. This is an average, but in high school it could be more significant on average.
Love the grammar police.
Michael Contopoulos (e-mail included).
Adrien Brody wrote:
Tom had all his kids motivated and running well. Isn't that all you can really ask for? Tom made these kids believe in themselves and got a small school to be a dominant force in New England. The guy deserves some credit.
A dominant force in New England? Come on Tom, one race does not equal dominant.
A legend in your own mind.
u might be wrong wrote:
Not sure of the exact number, but she was on several state championship teams (including relay meets). If you contribute to a state championship team effort, you are a state champion.
Well, Tom seems to be sure of the exact number, but it is not correct. Also, he writes SHE was a 12 time state champion, SHE wasn't. If she was part of 12 state championship teams, that's what should be stated. (NN did not win 12 state championships while she was there, did get one in xc, maybe a relay title or two, does not equal 12).
Nice try though.
Two golden rules I've found that apply in all HS Track/XC coaching situations:
1. The coach can get fired at any point, for any reason. Always remember that and be nice to everyone, at all times. The future of your involvement may depend on it. Running is nothing to the powers that be and they consider you interchangable.
2. Never toot your horn or defend your runners on the internet. In HS running, everyone hates everyone else. Parents of your team will anonymously rip you, parents of other teams will too, your actual team, rival teams, ect. Never, ever poke your head out of the fox-hole. Ever. Ignore it and profess ignorance when told about it.
There's more to being a HS coach than connecting with kids and knowing your stuff, unfortunately.
Conto wrote:
Michael Contopoulos (e-mail included).
still tilting at windmills, eh Mike?
I think Giddy has this about right.
Also, I think a lot of the older Alumni are writing in attacking Tom because of some out of line comments he made about the former coach Neal White.
Coach White seemed like a good guy... and I'm sure he’d be pretty embarrassed to see his former athletes anonymously attacking the current coach.
Tom seems to be a talented young coach who has a knack for rubbing people the wrong way. Talented high school coaches are hard to come by.
The AD seems to be the one at fault here.
Always. Life wouldn't be fun otherwise.
WHS Alum III wrote:
Tom seems to be a talented young coach who has a knack for rubbing people the wrong way. Talented high school coaches are hard to come by.
Talented people with a knack for rubbing people the wrong way are a dime a dozen. And that's just about what most of them are worth in the job market.
I don't know any of the people involved in this case, but I've read much of what others have linked to on this thread. Mr. Davis's various claims about his running and coaching are . . . interesting. I'm curious what rojo thinks about some of the stuff that his friend has said in his blogging, messaging, and promotional materials.
A few years ago (2006 or 2007), at our local high school, the coach was asked to tell the male runners to keep their shirts on while at practice or at meets.
Apparently "someone in the community" complained about the topless young males running around the community.
Un F-ING believable if you ask me.
I ran in HS, college, and beyond, and never was asked to put my shirt on by coach, administrator, or "member of the community."
I also coached for a bit - and again, never ran into that request. Ditto for the girls team - they ran in halter bras - not a big deal - geez, you get more skin at the local pool!
The power trips that ADs and certain members of the community get on are incredible. Most ADs that I've seen are generally tools. And as a HS coach (and not a teacher), you are subjected the whims of a power-hungry bureaucrat - so, it's best to just follow the ridiculous rules, and find something else.
The AD made the rule, effectively so he could tell someone to adhere to the rule, as there is no reason for the rule at all.
Can anyone make a case to force a male athlete to wear a shirt while doing a track or XC workout in warm and sunny weather? What about cross-training runners who are using the pool? Do they have to wear a t-shirt too?
Utterly ridiculous, and confirms my suspicions that most ADs are just plain stupid "good 'ol boys."
Informed wrote:
Tom covered the Cape course in 2:27:38. I know this because I was there biking many points of it to watch him. However his time was slower because he stopped for three bathroom breaks and at every water stop he came to a full stop as he was using the race as a workout. "Covered the course", not "finished in."
If that's the case, I can "cover" a mile in 3:50, stopping for couple of breaks, of course.
Seems like a lot of fuss over nothing
asdfagagsdgds wrote:
Wait a minute - a teacher/administrator can hit a student and still be employed working with kids?
That is just totally unbelievable.
Yes along as the student hits the teach first it will be called self defense.