great stuff
great stuff
Another good line from the log:
"Halfway through just decided to win"
Exactly what I normally do halfway through races!
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Thanks Trackhead.
Somebody mentioned "aerobic efficiency" ...a term which of course has no meaning, physiologically or otherwise. Reading that nonsensical comment reminded me of an article I read 30 some years ago.
Scott was given several treadmill tests one season and his VO2peak was actually found to be lower when he was racing his best. It was one of the first times oxygen delivery was dissociated from race performance.
dsrunner wrote:
Somebody mentioned "aerobic efficiency" ...a term which of course has no meaning, physiologically or otherwise. Reading that nonsensical comment reminded me of an article I read 30 some years ago.
Scott was given several treadmill tests one season and his VO2peak was actually found to be lower when he was racing his best. It was one of the first times oxygen delivery was dissociated from race performance.
Yeah, interesting speed and technique are more important.
I've gotta say....Adelaide in Summertime is bloody hot. Tough to go from winter to those conditions.
He and Walker would race any where.
But Ovett used to do higher mileage than Scott in the winter. Before Moscow, in the winter of 1979/80 he had 20 weeks at over 100 miles per week. Mostly good quality mileage - sub 6 mins per mile - with a hill session and a long interval session on grass included. He also put in some fast 60-100m efforts each week. His coach Harry Wilson says in his book about his time with Ovett, "Running Dialogue; a Coach's Story", that if you do the fast short efforts each week you will not lose speed even in the periods of very high mileage.
Actually, Scott's training has a lot in common with Ovett's. Perhaps the main difference is that Scott raced on the track year round - indoors, going to Australia /New Zealand for their summer season - while Ovett confined his track racing to the European summer.
Earl wrote:
This is the stuff that made Steve Scott the great runner that he was. Irv Ray didn't come into the picture until the twilight of Steve's career.
Huh? That was his collegiate coach, wasn't it?
All the hill reps by Scott. Interesting to see how much and so often.
Strange response wrote:
Earl wrote:This is the stuff that made Steve Scott the great runner that he was. Irv Ray didn't come into the picture until the twilight of Steve's career.
Huh? That was his collegiate coach, wasn't it?
Len Miller was his college coach.
Here's 60 elite athlete's training logs. I'm by no means sharing this as a suggestion or prescription, but rather allowing you to (hopefully) take away from it what you'd like or what you're looking for. Many runner make a mistake trying to mildly mimic an elite-like program when looking for improvement, rather than following appropriate, individualized, and meaningful training. Anyways, simply sharing this for insight!
Great stuff. Never saw this thread before. Not a man for the days off.
Goat training
One of my favorite threads here.
Wonder how fast some of those good hard 10 milers were.
Doyen_of_LRC wrote:
Wonder how fast some of those good hard 10 milers were.
According to his log, at least one was sub 52.
bill the cat wrote:
Doyen_of_LRC wrote:
Wonder how fast some of those good hard 10 milers were.
According to his log, at least one was sub 52.
It was not uncommon for Walker, Dixon, and Quax to dip below 50:00.
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I came across this thread for the first time searching for something unrelated and found it very interesting. Malmo does a great job on the 1st page organizing the information so it is easier to read.
What I find most interesting is that he didn't seem to follow the whole periodization thing. He was doing speed all year round, with lots of hill reps throughout and as previously noted many longish runs with faster paces mixed in as opposed to a set tempo run (e.g. 3-5 miles). Good stuff.
I don't have time to read every page. S Scott was a high school 880 yard specialist. I read the first page. Did S Scott say when he first sprinted sub-50 400m or sub-50 440 yard dash? Did S Scott ever sprint sub-48 400m? Posters getting excited by how fast S Scott ran 10 mile tempo runs is misguided energy. Without sub-49 400m skill, nothing else matters for potentially elite 1500m men.