Barringer: "The race isn't going to matter in the long run."

Pad Berson wrote:

Jesus, you people are amazing. "No heart?" Are we going to ignore everything that was accomplished prior to Monday?

I'm kind of hoping you're all not the way you come across on here.

Unfortunately, they really ARE all the way they come across here.

Sad, isn't it?

nah, not end of thread. I won't let it happen on that note. NCAA record mileNCAA record 3000NCAA record 5000NCAA record 1500 (sub-freakin 4)NCAA record steepleClosed on Gelete double freakin Burka in that sub-4 1500came back to college xc despite not needing toOlympic finalistAR Steeple5th in Worlds, SteepleIs that enough heart for you? She lost a race, she told the truth about it, is smiling, cleaning the grass stains off her knees, and going on. What more do you want?The haters argument seems to be that she should crawl in a hole and disappear for having had an apparent mental breakdown. What kind of talk is that? What champion hasn't flubbed one?Or maybe the haters argument is that she should have given credit to the winners? Well, something about 'all credit to Angela' might have been nice, but it would have been an empty gesture from a(probably)14:52 5k runner to a 15:33 5k runner. Unless she has the grace of a diplomat, making that sound genuine would have been very difficult to pull off.

brilliant ho wrote:

barringer has no heart. she is a yellow coward who doesn't know how to lose. her "performance" was an embarrassment to Colorado and a disgrace to US distance running. the world is laughing at us.

END OF THREAD.

Pretty much. It is very easy to be critical of someone sitting and typing. Who actually has made it to D1 NCAA XC that is posting? Probably not many.

You have a bad day...then you move on. That is the sentiment that I get from her response. In the long run...it was just one race. Ya know when like pro poker players lose a big hand and then ante up again. I think Malmo is alluding to this. If she lets this one race devastate her then that would be tragic. I think she learns from it, uses it to fuel her training, and moves on to better things. As she stated...she should have concentrated on simply winning rather than making it something momentous.

It would be quite a story if *in a sense* that she sacrificed her title to give McLaughlin hers. Big Mc got quite an education on Monday.

Some of you dips are just reading way too much into what she said or didn't say. And some trollies are just throwing out things to get people riled up. MSCoach and others appear sincere in their haughtiness. Some are just creeps. This is Letsrun.

Yes, she totally freaked upon getting passed. In hindsight (always 20-20, sitting back in the lead pack for 3-4k before making a move would have made better sense for her on that day, and of course keeping her composure upon getting passed would have been stellar)...but those things didn't happen. So what?

But if she would have quit after the chase pack caught her, they'd bash her for that. And if she just jogged it in at the end you bet they'd be hollering about that. If she'd been silent pr sullen in the interview. Yup, that'd be bad too.

Face it, a lot of you seem to have pretty bad and unhappy lives so to build yourselves up by crowing (anonymously of course) when a world class athlete has an unprecedented lapse in a championship race.

Wow. Real brave! Outstanding! Bravo! You're sooo cool. And of such great character yourselves.

Anyway, great races for Bizzarri, Kuijken, and Schaaf and it was nice to see them shine--likewise Chelanga rocked and so did OSU men's and Villanova women's.

A memorable NCAA for sure.

What ever happened to the debate about whether her or Sally would have won this season/who is/was more dominant?

War SALLY!!

AK-51 wrote:

Face it, a lot of you seem to have pretty bad and unhappy lives so to build yourselves up by crowing (anonymously of course) when a world class athlete has an unprecedented lapse in a championship race.

I've been pretty outspoken in my disappointment towards JB - but it has NOTHING to do with her performance. Everybody has a bad day - some of the best have huge flops. I could give a crap about how she ran.

What I'm critical of is her reaction. She spends 25 minutes yaking about stress in her life - none of which are out of the ordinary for the average college student. She even talks about being able to run 19:30 that same day. She has a complete lack of respect for the runners that beat her - not a huge surprise though - it seems that attitude got her in the situation in the first place.

"I could have won but I didn't, so I'm going to moan and whine and tell everyone about it."

I was a fairly typical college student and wasn't a double major, pre-law, trying to maintain a high GPA, in a deep relationship, planning a wedding, talking to agents, doing lots of interstate travel, and whatever else. Her option would have been to turn her computer off to shorten the interview. That wouldn't have been cool.

Greg wrote:

I was a fairly typical college student and wasn't a double major, pre-law, trying to maintain a high GPA, in a deep relationship, planning a wedding, talking to agents, doing lots of interstate travel, and whatever else. Her option would have been to turn her computer off to shorten the interview. That wouldn't have been cool.

You may not have - but there are tons of others that deal with all of it except for maybe the agents (which she can deal with after NCAA's if it really is going to effect her race/season - i'm sure they would understand). What interstate travel (besides XC and agents) are you inferring?

I don't disagree she has a full plate - but my point is that she's not the only one with a full plate, yet this seems to be her attitude: me me me me me ... look at everything in my life.... that's why i didn't run well .... doesn't everybody understand now?

And as for the interview - she can't have ANY say in how long it'll be? She can't express beforehand that she wants to make it brief and simply let people know a few things? I'm pretty sure she didn't have to shut off her computer - she is going to have to deal with media as part of her full time job right?

It's a lack of respect to your opponents beforehand by thinking you could have all that crap on your plate and be fine and go win in record time - and it's a lack of respect afterwards when it doesn't happen and you're still literally saying you could still do it today.

XC was it, 3 overnight trips in 3.5 weeks is a lot to squeeze in to everything else for any full-time student, and now she's on a 4th.

All she was saying as, "I didn't handle it well." She wasn't handling other people's problems nor wanting other people to handle hers. The questions were all geared to "me". She had no clue she was coming up to a limit since she'd never hit that wall before (if she's right about the cause). Lack of respect beforehand, more like she had no idea she was approaching her limit. She said she could run 19:50 today, not get a record. They were behind record pace the whole race, anyway.

I don't mind criticisms as long as it's over something she actually said/did. If she's hitting a bunch of pet peeves, that's each viewer's business and they don't have to go on about it here for 24 paragraphs! (kidding, saw a joke and went for it)

I don't get the problem with the length. That's more something for the listener to deal with than flotrack or her. I don't finish a tv show if I don't like it. And you know how women are, they like to express "feelings" and "relate" them and be "understood". Women!

Even if everything people have said went wrong with the race/interview is true, her problems aren't all that bad, especially in the light of how her other 5 dozen races/interviews went.

Leonard Shelby: I'm not a killer. I'm just someone who wanted to make things right. Can't I just let myself forget what you've told me? Can't I just let myself forget what you've made me do. You think I just want another puzzle to solve? Another John G. to look for? You're John G. So you can be my John G... Will I lie to myself to be happy? In your case Teddy... yes I will.