Bekele needs to start focussing on 10000 and above while he still has the stamina and strenght.Maybe he should have a go at Wanjiru's 1/2 marathon record of 58.33 this year.
Bekele needs to start focussing on 10000 and above while he still has the stamina and strenght.Maybe he should have a go at Wanjiru's 1/2 marathon record of 58.33 this year.
Kenenisa is considering running a 1/2 marathon and it could come sooner than most people think!
VIPAM wrote:
Look for that to change in the next several years. Every world record from 2000m to the Marathon (including improving his 5000m and 10000m significantly) is now the direct target of Kenenisa Bekele.
Um...ok...since you're apparently interested in discussing some jokers making predictions concerning Luke Puskedra, what do you think of your above comment from last fall?
Kenenisa seems to have been injuried alot more then he has been healthy in 2009 and 2010...is this the beginning to the end of his career?
Most athletes have a major injury in their career and those that don't are way more than lucky when training at the elite level. Despite his injuries Kenneisa Bekele still had a wonderful 2009 season, just look at his result from the World Track and Field Championships.
So NO its not the beginning of the end for Kenenisa Bekele it's just a persistent and nagging injury-something alot of athletes go thru-that has him sidelined. He'll be back.
VIPAM wrote:
Kenenisa is considering running a 1/2 marathon and it could come sooner than most people think!
Ah good. So you have given up on this dream of KB breaking the 3000 record.
And Chet's a smart guy. He and I agree: Kenenisa does not have the requisite 1500 credentials to have a dream of running 7:20.
MarathonMind wrote:
[quote]VIPAM wrote:
And Chet's a smart guy. He and I agree: Kenenisa does not have the requisite 1500 credentials to have a dream of running 7:20.
the question should be who does have a shot at breaking komens 7:20 for 3k record? i cant name anyone capable of that RIGHT NOW, maybe in 10-15 years.
Here's the answer to your question is it the end of Kenny B
less than a year ago against Eluid Kipchoge, Bernard Lagat, Josephy Ebuya, Zersenay Tadese etc
2009 Double World Champion
i doubt he may not appear the entire 2010 compt.
douglas burke wrote:
the question should be who does have a shot at breaking komens 7:20 for 3k record? i cant name anyone capable of that RIGHT NOW, maybe in 10-15 years.
The question should be why everyone is so deluded to think that Komen ran 7:20 and EL G ran 4:44 without using PEDs?
These performances were so far beyond any historical progression projections to be laughable. The 2000m represents an improvement of 6 seconds from 10 years before, and the 3000m a 9 second (that's 70m!) improvement in the same length of time.
The 2000m is equivalent to running a 3:49 Mile and then increasing the pace and running a final 400m in under 56sec. There are only about 8 guys who can run a Mile that fast now.
The late 90s period should be struck from history. Almost all records from 800m up would have been drug aided.
There is only one runner on the scene currently who appears to have the potential to join D.K. and ElG as the only runners in history who have ducked under 7:25 for 3000. That would be Asbel Kiprop, who turns 21 in a month and who 3 years ago at age 17 (almost 18) ran 7:42. IF Kiprop continues to develop and increases his stamina substantially, he is THE ONE who could dip under 7:25. This would assume he is at a minimum a 3:27 1500 runner who has worked on his staying power...I would not bet on it, but he DOES have the talent.
you forget saidi-thief who ran 7'25 flat off 3'29 & 12'50 in coupla seasons
choge is actually quicker over 1500 but slightly slower over 5k with 12'53, albeit not simultaneously
if anyone is going to do it, it's gus ( albeit other choge looks in big <<12'50 shape from doha & coud also do it )
Well, Venty, "saudi-thief" did not dip under 7:25, but very close...
Choge has always been somebody I thought could do it, but he has had injuries and he doesn't seem to be able to match 12:53 from earlier. Maybe he could..
I don't think Kipchoge can do it, but he has to be mentioned.
With Asbel Kiprop, he is not even in the discussion for a few more years, but when he is more mature...
Of course, both Kenenisa and Tariku have the talent to do it, but time may be running short for KB.
But should we be using Saidi-Sief as a point of reference, when he was busted for PEDs?
You can't assume his 3:29/12:50 ability was legitimate as a result of that, regardless of how good he appeared.
Have to say I'm dubious of Komen's run too. I agree though with Ventolin that Choge is potentially the best/fastest over 3000m right now. I still can't see him running sub 7:25 though!
the question about drugs is not relevant from viewpoint of who will next run <7'25
drugs almost certainly allowed him to run to his maximum ( taking into account uneven pace ) for the distances he chose - 3'29/4'46/7'25/12'50
he is more a demonstration that if you can get a "clean" 3'29/12'50 guy, they can run <7'25
choge looks a little shot over 5k so he may not be the one, but eliud looks capable of 12'45 in temperate weather ( based on 12'50 in very hot doha ) & he has run 12'46 before, & if he can find 3'32 speed with it, that can get him <7'25
chet wrote:Well, Venty, "saudi-thief" did not dip under 7:25, but very close...
the guy ran within 0.02s of it, which means he wouda got it with a lean
besides, i believe he wasn't even inside 5'00 at 2k, so he ran >5'00/<2'25 splits, which are horrible splits
he wouda been well below 7'25 that day in any sort of decent paced race
Yes it's true that Kenny B suffered an injury last year and aggravated it earlier this year; however, in my opinion it's not a tear or rupture. I feel Kenny B and some of his very close entourage wants him to skip this year to focus on certain aspects of his training after those injuries had healed. Being a high profile athlete it would be much scrutiny if he simply told the truth about wanting to skip this year meets.
Just ran across Kenenisa last in-depth interview in 2010, very interesting. He don't think its possible anyone will threaten a 26 flat 10000m in our lifetime and MORE...
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=18518&PageNum=2
2012 Olympics 10000m
GOLD- Kenenisa Bekele (Eth) 26:41.23
Silver- Bernard Lagat (USA) 26:42.14 AR
Bronze- Chris Solinsky (USA) 26:45.23
4th Zersenay Tadese (Eri) 26:45.79
insane 10000m
i get an estimate that a 26-flat is worth equivalent of a ~ 3'25.2
anyone who runs 26-flat is probably a better athletic talent than hicham ( for their 10k compared to hicham & his 1500 ), which is a tough ask