Your opinion on Homeschooling?

holy cows wrote:

When the going gets tough, we use daddy and mommy's money to go to private school with our like-minded friends yay!

Or we steal everyone elses money and sit like animals in a zoo at public schools. Then complain that we didn't learn anything and can't get into college. So the colleges are forced to open their admissions up so we can take remedial grade 6 math and english.

The bottom line is that prisons are filled with people who were forced to attend public school, have been subjected to the negative effects of religion, have grown up in a disfunctional home, in a culture that glorifies violence, and under a government where whiny liberal do gooder all to often perpetuate the status quo.

Under such a system is it any wonder that we have the incarceration rates that we do? Prisons are the box where we house those who have had bad experiences with societies other institutions. These people have not learned self discipline, self motivation, and control.

Yes its obvious public schools makes criminals and private schools makes saints. No-brainer, just force people to go to private schools instead and get rid of public schools altogether. You then wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the $10,000 tuition private school with the mondo track and the $10 tuition private school with half its toilets working. SAT scores, 1500m times, or incarceration rates, they would all be the same because...they're both private schools.

Mrs. Masterbooner wrote:

How would they know of the homeschooled kids lack of social skills if they were once teachers in the public school system, given that the homeschooled kids are HOMESCHOOLED?

Um, I'm sure you think I'm stupid, being educated K-12 in private Catholic schools, but if it's an online journal you're subscribing to, can't you cut and paste from that?

Dear God Mrs. Masterblower, you were obviously foaming at the mouth over this on Friday. Like a dog with a bone. Sorry for my delay in responding. I was skiing all day Saturday and a family event out of town kept me occupied Sunday.

Regarding my thoughts on spending precious time googling for questionable “stats” to participate in silly arguments on Letsrun, I’ll stand by my statement and reiterate that I prefer to spend my time doing better things.

Your claim about your own posts on this thread is funny. Your thuggish collection of monikers likely created this thread, and then participated in the attack using clever names like Heh!, Hunh, not Huhn, Yup and moniker. I imagine the options for handles starts to run dry when one posts as often as you do.

Maybe you need to re-read my posts and answer the questions you keep re-posting yourself. I’ll help you out a little just to get the neurons firing:

Superintendents and other educators know from experience that a large portion of home-schooled kids are socially maladjusted because these kids are frequently referred for assistance with academic and social issues when they return to the public schools after parents toss their hands up and realize home schooling is not working.

Again, I will say that I do not doubt that there are home-school success stories out there. Several posters spoke to good experiences. I don’t doubt that the poster whose parent had a Masters in Education could have been provided a solid home school experience if his/her parent was motivated and committed to the process. I am just saying that based on my experience, that situation is not the norm for kids who are home schooled.

I have worked with many initially well-meaning former home-school parents who are apologetic upon realizing that they have done their children a disservice by keeping them out of school. Unfortunately by the time these parents realized they could not handle the demands of educating children at home, their children were hopelessly behind academically.

Many, many children are home-schooled in the early grades and then dumped back into public schools when parents realize they are in over their heads, and again, this is why educators (superintendents) understand the issues. I’ll say it one more time…very few kids are homeschooled exclusively K-12, making data collection in this area challenging due to the lack of a stable (consistent criteria used) home-school sample to compare public school kids’ performance with.

Regarding your comments on cutting and pasting research articles, you’re just embarrassing yourself again. You obviously have very limited knowledge about the standard criteria for data collection or evaluation of research. I am finding it hard to believe you have ever been a librarian, or you wouldn’t be spouting this nonsense.

To clarify, no, as ANYONE who has any sort of education at all knows, one cannot just cut and paste from the published work of other researchers/authors without permission and without citing and crediting a source. Do you think these people spend years of their lives and limited funding doing research that is reliable enough to get published in a reputable journal just to have some yahoo like Blowhard chop it up and regurgitate it beyond recognition? The research articles that I have access to through either subscriptions at my place of work or through my membership in professional associations are protected by copyright, which I respect. My understanding is that this information is often available to the general public for a fee, but not googlable.

Anything that Blowhard is finding for free online are probably not current published studies that could be evaluated for reliability. What these snippets most likely are, are summaries of older research purchased by a media group and paraphrased at will, and sometimes with an underlying agenda. If you want me to buy statements regarding “stats” on homeschooling, cite the study, name the authors, and let me look at the data myself, then we can talk.

These Letsrun circular ramblings of your husbands’ with one moniker patting the other on the back in agreement or shouting a slanderous rebuttal for effect are just ridiculous and frankly a real embarrassment to me at this point if you catch my drift.

Hi Lia! Hope you had fun skiing. BTW, this is my first post on this thread. Unlike you I always use the same handle, makes it convenient for identifying myself. In fact I even noticed you posting as BRM once. You're such a kidder! So those other people questioning your intelligence were not me, they're real people who think you're a dingbat. Have a nice week.

Is Lia your ex-wife? I usually have no idea what is going on in these threads. Might help me follow them if you enlightened us a little.

We've never met her, don't know who the heck she is - she decided one day she hated us and now anything that someone posts in opposition to her views is assumed to me or my husband railing against her. She has used MANY handles before - she's a pro at this trolling thing.

No, the Jewish Swallower who wants to pretend she is Catholic is the one he screwed over. That chick he's obsessed with never even wanted to be his girlfriend, along with Katherine apparently.

Ah, where are you getting your info, from Lia's posts? And the only reason we call her that is because Malmo sent us an e-mail regarding her tyrades towards us, and told us to just ignore her...which is hard when she keeps changing her handles!

For the record folks, I'm BRM's 2nd wife, raised Catholic, married Catholic. 1st wife lives in same town with us, all of us on speaking terms. They have an adopted son from Russia. BRM's a realtor; I'm a pianist working at a school in the mountains of NC. Many people have posted pics of us from a race we ran, but it keeps getting deleted, hopefully for security reasons, and not because someone can't handle reality.

Shall I go back and correct all your typos Mrs. M.? I've noticed quite a few.

I've also noticed plenty of support for my ideas here on LR. Particularly when I use an unfamiliar handle, but I guess now you're hunting down my IP address for your attacks. Maybe your private school didn't teach that lesson on freedom of speech, blah, blah, blah.

Ah wait - you're Lia again! Katherine's a new name you've come up with!

God, you are just insane.

Joie de vivre wrote:

God, I am just insane.

Bingo!

Masterliar,

I'm sorry that you are bitter and angry about your husband's flagrant cheating, but you need to deal with him and not innocent people who were sucked into the mess of your marriage. Stop emailing and calling my husband and I at work. We don't want anything to do with you. Get some help before you explode.

Joie de vivre wrote:

God, I am just insane.

For once, you've gotten something right.

I was hoping to make a relevant, pertinent post on this thread before it devolved into name-calling and personal slights.

Looks like I was too late....

I haven't read this thread beyond the first post. I don't intend to. I think homeschooling is a legitimate option. But it turns out that most homeschoolers/homeschoolees are regligious whacko dumbfvcks that should be prosecuted for child abuse for warping their childrens worldview/reality. That said, this certainly doesn't apply to all homeschooled kids.

I have f***ed a small handfull of homeschooled girls. I think when they "graduate" or finish or whatever they do around the kitchen table, they're ready to cut loose and get crazy.

It's been my experience that home schooled girls really get into their sex. They're not very good at giving head at first. You have to let them learn. i guess their dads and brothers aren't too picky about how it's done. I for one, am. Otherwise, they're a blast in bed.

the antipublic school agenda wrote:

In the end homeschooling and private schooing are simply parents teaching their kids to take their marbles elsewhere if they don't like it.

Yep. If your child is between +1 and -2 std dev from the norm, public school is probably. just. fine.

Homeschoolers, far as I can tell, are not AGAINST public schooling. Seriously, how many homeschool parents actively PROSELYTIZE? That is, try to convert YOU to homeschool? Precious few, I bet.

So why are non-homeschoolers so invested in what free individuals do? What drives the concern/fear/jealousy? What compels them to meddle?

Think about it: are homeschool lobby groups trying to OUTLAW public school? I think not! However, MANY states (most recently, Cali) actively seek to regulate, if not outlaw, homeschooling (even states with ABYSMAL inner-city public schools, a la DC, NY, MI).