why does everyone hate Rupp?

Cold Here: You would stay in the NCAA so that you could rape people down the track if you had the option, don't deny that, anyone would like that kind of glory.

Ocman: No, Your a fag, read the post I started this thread with, that was only one rule in one sentence, how dumb can you be not to understand it?

Hogwaller: this is my opinion, Oregon made running for the USA, along with Nike back in the 60's and 70's. As bad as we are on the national scale now, without those two we would be much worse.

^o^

Once again,

Blaze

blaze wrote:

Cold Here: You would stay in the NCAA so that you could rape people down the track if you had the option, don't deny that, anyone would like that kind of glory.

Everyone likes to win, but that just sounds messed up.

I don't dislike Rupp but your explanation certainly provides some very good perspective on why he would be resented by runners who do not have access to the same opportunities.

Tony Soprano wrote:I'm just guessing here, but I do remember Galen sort of discrediting Josh's win as his own minor mistake of "going to early" or something. Although Josh raced the course a few times more...Galen still raced that very course several times. It seemed he just wouldn't give credit where credit is due.

Maybe instead of "guessing," you should go back and listen to some of the interviews on Flotrack and elsewhere. He said exactly the opposite of what you're "guessing" -- that there was nothing he could have done to get Josh that day, no matter what the timing of the moves was.

helpful advice wrote:

Tony Soprano wrote:I'm just guessing here, but I do remember Galen sort of discrediting Josh's win as his own minor mistake of "going to early" or something. Although Josh raced the course a few times more...Galen still raced that very course several times. It seemed he just wouldn't give credit where credit is due.

Maybe instead of "guessing," you should go back and listen to some of the interviews on Flotrack and elsewhere. He said exactly the opposite of what you're "guessing" -- that there was nothing he could have done to get Josh that day, no matter what the timing of the moves was.

Well, first off, I'm going to guess you're an "unregistered" and you like hiding behind that shield. Cool. You make up a new name for every post you make. Also cool.

Secondly, there is more than one website on the internet which has post-NCAA interviews. You should check them out, they're pretty good.

In this interview...I'm not really seeing where Rupp credits McDougal for running a great race. Again it seems that he thinks the only reason he lost is because of his own minor errors. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what he's saying here, but it he really doesn't come across as overly happy for Josh.

I'm a Rupp fan, not a Rupp hater. I, again, am just guessing, but this could certainly be taken that way.

spoken like a 15 year oldi didn't like the movie but as bowerman said in without limits...all the hard work in the world isn't going to get 1 in a million to run a 3:54 mile... that takes talent... and talent to a runner is tied to very specific attributesthat is the truth, it is not only evident in running, just about every other athletic and intellectual pursuit as well

blaze wrote:

BossMan wrote:

So why hate? We SHOULD be taking the best runners we have and doing everything we can to make them better. I'm sorry if genetically that isn't you. Maybe in another life...

Genetics may give you a head start, but those brn slower don't have to stay there, never assume people can't do something because of how they are born.

If you watch the CSTV broadcast of the race, rupp had nothing but great things to say about mcdougal before and after the race. He was actually really happy for him. Rupp seems like a great guy.

word. rupp for prez. ya heard????

all the trainers and private jets in the world don't trump hard work. If the NCAA guys resent him, fine: put in the work and beat him. Sounds like folks are making excuses for his success, and excuses for their lack of success. Don't use his massages as an excuse. Does he deserve all the running amenities? Who cares. At the end off the day, the clock is what matters.

Tell us how much work it will take to run 9.79 in the 100m. If you work for years without missing a workout will you get there?

The same for 12:37. To run 12:37, you're running 60points for 12.5 laps. That means you have to be a low 3:50s miler (at least). Tell me how to go from a 14yr old who can't break 6min in the mile to a 12:37 5000m (or a 9.79 100m). Because if it's as simple as hard work, I'm not scared of hard work.

I pretty much don't like him because he is a preppy white kid that acts and talks ghetto as hell. Same as any other poser.

[quote]anon_for_reason wrote:

spoken like a 15 year old

i didn't like the movie but as bowerman said in without limits...

all the hard work in the world isn't going to get 1 in a million to run a 3:54 mile... that takes talent... and talent to a runner is tied to very specific attributes

that is the truth, it is not only evident in running, just about every other athletic and intellectual pursuit as well

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Your wrong, I don't give a shit if people were born with some amazing talent, I will pick runners off day by day, and I will be great. There is no way I am the only one in my situation, even the most incredible runners in the world will eventually fall to those who wanted it more.

"Spoken like a 15 year old"- like I should trying to impress you? I don't know what your problem is, and who you think you are, that you must stay 'anon_for_reason'; but you in no way have the right to doubt me, or all the other runners out there like me who will soon--if not already-- fly by you, and leave you in the dust like the mediocre talent you are.

It's easy to talk though, so here, I've been running for four years

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Obviously little/no natural talent

Agree?

If so, say so, I'll bump this thread every couple seasons with new times, and you watch then and tell me hard work can't get me there.

Blaze

Dude, you do realize that at your current rate of improvement you will be running 16:05 in in another 4 years. That is smoking! Rupp doesn't stand a chance! Look out...what's that? Oh, it's a 5k time and not 4 miles?Nevermind...Nice trolling though I'll give you 3.5/10

Blaze wrote:

It's easy to talk though, so here, I've been running for four years

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Galen wouldn't be running for Oregon if Martin Smith was still coach.

Ever read that book The Jordan Rules?

Does Pat Werhane have 24 hour access to Nike world headquarters?

Heck, Galen wasn't even in Eugene for 2 1/2 semesters....online classes.

How do Kenny Moore and the "real" men of Oregon feel about this blatent favoritism?

You think Adrian Peterson would have gotten away with the "Rupp" treatment at Oklahoma U.?

C'mon, an arrangement like no other in the entire NCAA.

But I agree - don't hate Rupp...hate Vin...and feel sorry for the sacrificial lamb in all of this...Martin Smith.

My prediction - if Galen would declare Pro, the hating on him would drop significantly....at least 7%.

"...Cold Here: You would stay in the NCAA so that you could rape people down the track if you had the option, don't deny that, anyone would like that kind of glory..."

Here's the thing; Rupp is not 'raping' anyone on the track. He's never won a title. I Would NOT stay in the NCAA, I'd make my professionalism legit and go to the big leagues and make money and have even more perks.

"all the trainers and private jets in the world don't trump hard work. If the NCAA guys resent him, fine: put in the work and beat him. Sounds like folks are making excuses for his success, and excuses for their lack of success. Don't use his massages as an excuse. Does he deserve all the running amenities? Who cares. At the end off the day, the clock is what matters."

You are talking like he has won multiple NCAA titles.

Do you not f***ing get it? We are putting in the work, people HAVE BEAT HIM IN NCAA TITLE RACES! His success? He hasn't won shit in the NCAA, true amauters have run faster and won titles. People do not dislike him because he's fast, they dislike him because he's blatantly cheated.

"Sounds like folks are making excuses for his success, and excuses for their lack of success."

Define lack of success - the people complaining, that I know personally, are top 15 cross guys - top 50 cross guys, sub 14 5k guys, 14:10 5k guys, etc. A lot of those guys I know weren't that fast in HS.

Those people are more successful in my opinion than Rupp who ran 13:37 is HS and has the backing of a corporation.

You said 'His Success". I don't think Rupp has been that successful to be honest. He has run fast thats for sure, but successful? NCAA titles mean more than fast times at least in the NCAA system. Rupp has 0.

yo hombres.

yes, rupp is a collegiate athlete getting mucho attention and perks of the professional world.

yes, it is unfair to the guys he competes against.

yes, nike is sucking his d-word.

yes, by not declaring pro he is missing out on a bunch of money and more perks.

but let's face it.

if you're rupp, why not stay at uoregon and f*** all the "grade A" p***y there??

(for the sake of this post, i hope he's at least f***ing one grade A p***y out there. hell, i'd settle for knowing that he sucks some grade A d***.)

chicas galore wrote:

(for the sake of this post, i hope he's at least f***ing one grade A p***y out there. hell, i'd settle for knowing that he sucks some grade A d***.)

Does Alberto Salazaar's d*** count as "grade A"?

I do think it's true that Rupp should not be running in NCAA races. He's a blatant "ringer" for the University of Oregon.

But is he running in NCAA races because he personally wants to? I know he made that big deal about being excited when the Ducks won cross, but isn't pretty much all of this a big marketing ploy? Doesn't Nike just want the exposure that comes from Rupp running at the college level, combined with what they get from him running professionally?

Take Webb and Ritz, for example. They're amazing professional runners. But are they bringing in proportionate marketing returns for Nike? Yes it's exciting that they were 8th and 9th in their respective events at World Champs. But does that make as big of a media splash as Rupp leading the Ducks to NCAA victory? Do non-letsrun posters really care that Ritz came in 9th?

College sports are a great marketing opportunity; they have a lower competitive standard than world championships but better exposure to the average US sports fan. Nike realizes this.