Put me down for Stockton California
then Detroit a very close second.
Put me down for Stockton California
then Detroit a very close second.
why baltimore is better than San Diego
1)the air quality is definetely worse in san diego than baltimore. in north america winds generally blow west to east - in SD that means smog gets trapped against the hills and mountains to the east of the city - in baltimore it gets pushed out over the chesapeake.
2)SD has no decent cultural institutions. it's a beach and navy town. baltimore has great music venues, good museums, and plenty of wacky artistic people.
3)the people who are actually from SD aren't too bad - but there are so many people from the midwest and east coast who come out to pacific beach and try to act like they're from cali. people from baltimore might be a little rough around the edges, but they are good people who work hard and welcome in outsiders (even if they don't understand why you want to live there). the people who move here are much more deliberate about why they live here - it isn't like SD where some guy from boston comes out for the week to see his buds and the next thing he knows he's signing a lease for the next six months.
I could go on - but it comes down to SD is like a girl who looks so hot you're ready to marry her before you even talk to her. But, once you've been with her for six months you realize she doesn't have anything interesting to say, you've done pretty much everything there is to do with her, she is a constant drain on your wallet, and she's probably cheating on you.
Baltimore is like a girl who isn't all that popular, but you happen to talk to her one night and there's something about her. She becomes more attractive over time because she actually has a personality and a brain. And she has some friends nearby (dc, phili, nyc, the shore) that she lets you mess around with every once in awhile.
What's bad about Lima?
jsquire wrote:
Humbled wrote:Lima, OH, is my personal nominee for worst city. I haven't spent any time there, but it sure looks awful from the road. Maybe someone who's from there can weigh in and correct me...I don't live there but my brother does. It's much worse than you think. Whenever they publish those city rankings books, I'm amazed that anyplace in the country ranks lower. And when someone from Toledo rags on your city...man, you know it's bad.
Crawford, Texas
asdfvv wrote:
My vote goes to Chicago. Disgusting weather, disgusting people, and to top it off the pizza isn't all that great.
Discuss.
Could not have said it better. Chicago blows 100%.
Robstown is worst shithole-trust me!
eastcoaster wrote:What's bad about Lima?It's big enough to have all of the problems of a dying industrial city (e.g., rundown, high crime rate, abysmal economy) and small enough to have all of the problems of a small town (e.g., isolation, ignorance). It has none of the upsides of either. In other words, remove all suburbs, art, culture, internationalism and entertainment from Detroit, and you've got Lima. Not a pretty picture.
Lived there for four years.
jff wrote:
Have you been in the city during Bengals season?
jsquire wrote:
eastcoaster wrote:What's bad about Lima?It's big enough to have all of the problems of a dying industrial city (e.g., rundown, high crime rate, abysmal economy) and small enough to have all of the problems of a small town (e.g., isolation, ignorance). It has none of the upsides of either. In other words, remove all suburbs, art, culture, internationalism and entertainment from Detroit, and you've got Lima. Not a pretty picture.
To which I'd only add its sheer physical ugliness and topographical dreariness. A lot of smaller dying mill towns and mining communities at least have mountains or rivers going for them. They can even exude a sad kind of charm. Lima, in contrast, is plopped down in the middle of dead flat central Ohio farmland and is distinctly charmless.
LA.
memphis
Interesting nominations.
Lima, OH is boring, but I couldn't put it anywhere near the worst -- not big enough to have some serious problems that other cities have.
Detroit has to be on the list.
Gary, Indiana has to be on the list.
East St. Louis is horrible.
East Palo Alto was the murder capitol of the US based on per capita when I lived at Stanford's campus. That's no good.
PARTS of Washington DC are super bad.
Several cities in New Jersey are really bad.
Cleveland? No WAY is that one of the worst cities. Tons of stuff to do there, still lots of money in that city to make it all go. Jacobs Field is nice, and right next door is Fat Fish Blue -- the best blues venue in the state. I wouldn't want to live there with all the snow, but it's definitely now one of the worst cities.
Upgrayedd wrote:
quantum wrote:But in North America, I vote for Detroit.
Detroit is far from perfect, but in this category, it doesn't stand a chance compared to Gary, Indiana. I'd be curious to hear from anyone who has actually been to Gary and can find a crappier city.
I've been to Gary, Indiana and you are correct. The Worst.
Oh, and don't forget Bayonne, NJ. Bad.
How can this thread be 6 pages without one mention of Bridgeport, CT. That city should just be razed without warning.
live in baltimore wrote:
why baltimore is better than San Diego
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2)SD has no decent cultural institutions. it's a beach and navy town. baltimore has great music venues, good museums, and plenty of wacky artistic people.
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Calling California's oldest city a 'beach and navy town' is tired and old...it was old in 1957.
Dearolddago has museums and galleries galore. And you don't have to go through scary slums to get to them.
Like Balmer, it has tourist traps and seaside shopping plazas and seafood bistros--but when you sit down for your sunset mean of mahi crabcakes (whatever), you're not surrounded by Rikers Island parolees and Katrina refugees.
Houston.
Happiness is Houston, Texas in my rearview mirror ...
Eugene
Boulder
... Whoops wrong thread. Those are in the "our sh-t doesn't stink" cities thread.
Phoenix is the shit hole of America: crime, illegals, pollution, horrific traffic, 120 degree heat, black widow spiders everywhere, crappy public transportation and f***ing desert all around. It's not that much different than Baghdad actually.
If you don't want to include Lima, you can't include East St. Louis.
Flagpole Willy wrote:
Interesting nominations.
Lima, OH is boring, but I couldn't put it anywhere near the worst -- not big enough to have some serious problems that other cities have.
Detroit has to be on the list.
Gary, Indiana has to be on the list.
East St. Louis is horrible.
East Palo Alto was the murder capitol of the US based on per capita when I lived at Stanford's campus. That's no good.
PARTS of Washington DC are super bad.
Several cities in New Jersey are really bad.
Cleveland? No WAY is that one of the worst cities. Tons of stuff to do there, still lots of money in that city to make it all go. Jacobs Field is nice, and right next door is Fat Fish Blue -- the best blues venue in the state. I wouldn't want to live there with all the snow, but it's definitely now one of the worst cities.