Who has the better all-time resumé: Mu or Keely?

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Of the two 23 yr-olds, who has the better resumé of all time as it stands now in the summer of 2025??Upvote for Keely Downvote for Mu(Sidenote: BroJos, an embedded poll option would be a great addition for these boards)

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2 months ago 03/22/2026 7:40pm EDT

re: Give us the resumes again

Give us the resumes again wrote:
Glad you bumped this. It is not even close anymore. Mu got in at the right time before Keely and others began to "arrive." Her professional career effectively lasted for only a little over two years, from June 2021 (Olympic Trials) through September 2023 (DL Final). I actually think Ajee' Wilson may have had a better overall career due to her longevity and five medals.
Hodgkinson
Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver
World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: 1 gold
Diamond League wins: 8
Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu
Olympics: 1 gold
World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: None
Diamond League wins: 3
Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 23 Times (16 Keely, 7 Mu)
1:54.61 Keely
1:54.74 Keely
1:54.87i Keely (Indoor WR)
1:54.91 Keely
1:54.97 Mu
1:55.04 Mu
1:55.19 Keely
1:55.21 Mu
1:55.30i Keely
1:55.69 Keely
1:55.77 Keely
1:55.78 Keely
1:55.88 Keely
1:56.07 Mu
1:56.30 Mu
1:56.33i Keely
1:56.34 Keely
1:56.38 Keely
1:56.53 Keely
1:56.61 Mu
1:56.72 Keely
1:56.86 Keely
1:57.01 Mu

Amazing breakdown.

"bUt BiCaRb"

2 months ago 03/22/2026 7:50pm EDT

re: bUt iT wAsNt HeAd tO HeAd tHouGh

bUt iT wAsNt HeAd tO HeAd tHouGh wrote:
1:55.3 and another world title for Keelz.
KEEEEEELYYYYYYYYMAAAAAANIAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
I guess people will say this doesn't count though since it doesn't prove anything head to head.

🥱 post again when Keely has an outdoor WC gold like Mu

2 months ago 03/22/2026 7:53pm EDT

re: Give us the resumes again

Give us the resumes again wrote:
Glad you bumped this. It is not even close anymore. Mu got in at the right time before Keely and others began to "arrive." Her professional career effectively lasted for only a little over two years, from June 2021 (Olympic Trials) through September 2023 (DL Final). I actually think Ajee' Wilson may have had a better overall career due to her longevity and five medals.
Hodgkinson
Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver
World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: 1 gold
Diamond League wins: 8
Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu
Olympics: 1 gold
World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: None
Diamond League wins: 3
Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 23 Times (16 Keely, 7 Mu)
1:54.61 Keely
1:54.74 Keely
1:54.87i Keely (Indoor WR)
1:54.91 Keely
1:54.97 Mu
1:55.04 Mu
1:55.19 Keely
1:55.21 Mu
1:55.30i Keely
1:55.69 Keely
1:55.77 Keely
1:55.78 Keely
1:55.88 Keely
1:56.07 Mu
1:56.30 Mu
1:56.33i Keely
1:56.34 Keely
1:56.38 Keely
1:56.53 Keely
1:56.61 Mu
1:56.72 Keely
1:56.86 Keely
1:57.01 Mu

Indoor is basically a water-downed competition. She still lacks that world OUTDOOR gold to break even with Mu in terms of hardware even though as you said her pro career basically only lasted for 2 years which, frankly, makes it even more impressive.

And Mu is actually younger than Keely so I'm not sure about the "begin-to-arrive" part.

2 months ago 03/22/2026 8:34pm EDT

re: SledgeHammers

SledgeHammers wrote:
Give us the resumes again wrote:
Glad you bumped this. It is not even close anymore. Mu got in at the right time before Keely and others began to "arrive." Her professional career effectively lasted for only a little over two years, from June 2021 (Olympic Trials) through September 2023 (DL Final). I actually think Ajee' Wilson may have had a better overall career due to her longevity and five medals.
Hodgkinson
Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver
World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: 1 gold
Diamond League wins: 8
Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu
Olympics: 1 gold
World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: None
Diamond League wins: 3
Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 23 Times (16 Keely, 7 Mu)
1:54.61 Keely
1:54.74 Keely
1:54.87i Keely (Indoor WR)
1:54.91 Keely
1:54.97 Mu
1:55.04 Mu
1:55.19 Keely
1:55.21 Mu
1:55.30i Keely
1:55.69 Keely
1:55.77 Keely
1:55.78 Keely
1:55.88 Keely
1:56.07 Mu
1:56.30 Mu
1:56.33i Keely
1:56.34 Keely
1:56.38 Keely
1:56.53 Keely
1:56.61 Mu
1:56.72 Keely
1:56.86 Keely
1:57.01 Mu
Indoor is basically a water-downed competition. She still lacks that world OUTDOOR gold to break even with Mu in terms of hardware even though as you said her pro career basically only lasted for 2 years which, frankly, makes it even more impressive.
And Mu is actually younger than Keely so I'm not sure about the "begin-to-arrive" part.

They will find a way to twist it into keely is better than Mu. Despite most of the same arguments from early pages still applying. Similar age yet chasing Mu in terms of prestige since 2022. Keely's kryptonite however is actually Moraa.

Wonder what 2023 Mu would have run with Bicarb

2 months ago 03/22/2026 8:52pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

Dear @westsouthrunner, sledgehammers, endofthread,

Check out the original post. Basically 90% percent of respondents disagree.

Ninety percent.

Ninety.

I guess all this proves is that no matter how much evidence or data is presented to people, there will always be a certain element who will just bury their heads in the sand.

2 months ago 03/22/2026 9:31pm EDT

re: bUt iT wAsNt HeAd tO HeAd tHouGh

bUt iT wAsNt HeAd tO HeAd tHouGh wrote:
Dear @westsouthrunner, sledgehammers, endofthread,
Check out the original post. Basically 90% percent of respondents disagree.
Ninety percent.
Ninety.
I guess all this proves is that no matter how much evidence or data is presented to people, there will always be a certain element who will just bury their heads in the sand.

Objective facts

Mu 2 Olympic Gold - beating keely h2h once here.

Mu 1 Outdoor Gold - Keely 0 losing to mu h2h here

4x4: Mu 1 gold(48.3 no bicarb) - keely 51 with bicarb

Indoor title: mu 0 - Keely 1

Head to head: Mu W Keely L.

Mu is faster over and under 800 without bicarb.

My exact same argument from 6 months ago still applies here. I'll concede Keely now wins the indoor category hands down.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 2:13pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

It's Hodgkinson and it's not even close at this point.

Faster times, more international medals, and actually competes year-round.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 8:39pm EDT

re: xenosys

xenosys wrote:
It's Hodgkinson and it's not even close at this point.
Faster times, more international medals, and actually competes year-round.

When you go to Athing Mu's house there is a medal display with 2 Olympic Golds and a World Gold with all of them being worthy to be displayed next to eachother .

When you go to Keely's house her medal display has 1 Olympic Gold, 2 Worlds silvers, 1 olympic silver, a worl champs bronze and a World indoor Gold. I guarantee you her Olympic Gold is not near her silvers lmao. Same exact argument.

This post was edited 19 seconds after it was posted.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 8:53pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

World Athletics awards the following placing points for the Olympics, World Outdoor, and World Indoor

Olympics - 260, 230, 210
World Outdoor - 260, 230, 210
World Indoor - 140, 120, 110

Mu 260+260+210 = 730
Keely = 260+230+230+230+210+140 = 1300

2 months ago 03/23/2026 9:23pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

westsouthrunner wrote:
xenosys wrote:
It's Hodgkinson and it's not even close at this point.
Faster times, more international medals, and actually competes year-round.
When you go to Athing Mu's house there is a medal display with 2 Olympic Golds and a World Gold with all of them being worthy to be displayed next to eachother .
When you go to Keely's house her medal display has 1 Olympic Gold, 2 Worlds silvers, 1 olympic silver, a worl champs bronze and a World indoor Gold. I guarantee you her Olympic Gold is not near her silvers lmao. Same exact argument.

Athing Mu won weak watered down finals.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 9:27pm EDT

re: SledgeHammers

SledgeHammers wrote:
Give us the resumes again wrote:
Glad you bumped this. It is not even close anymore. Mu got in at the right time before Keely and others began to "arrive." Her professional career effectively lasted for only a little over two years, from June 2021 (Olympic Trials) through September 2023 (DL Final). I actually think Ajee' Wilson may have had a better overall career due to her longevity and five medals.
Hodgkinson
Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver
World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: 1 gold
Diamond League wins: 8
Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu
Olympics: 1 gold
World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze
World Indoor Champs: None
Diamond League wins: 3
Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 23 Times (16 Keely, 7 Mu)
1:54.61 Keely
1:54.74 Keely
1:54.87i Keely (Indoor WR)
1:54.91 Keely
1:54.97 Mu
1:55.04 Mu
1:55.19 Keely
1:55.21 Mu
1:55.30i Keely
1:55.69 Keely
1:55.77 Keely
1:55.78 Keely
1:55.88 Keely
1:56.07 Mu
1:56.30 Mu
1:56.33i Keely
1:56.34 Keely
1:56.38 Keely
1:56.53 Keely
1:56.61 Mu
1:56.72 Keely
1:56.86 Keely
1:57.01 Mu
Indoor is basically a water-downed competition. She still lacks that world OUTDOOR gold to break even with Mu in terms of hardware even though as you said her pro career basically only lasted for 2 years which, frankly, makes it even more impressive.
And Mu is actually younger than Keely so I'm not sure about the "begin-to-arrive" part.

The Indoor championship was won in a time faster than Mu’s WC. It was more competitive.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 9:34pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

westsouthrunner wrote:
SledgeHammers wrote:
Indoor is basically a water-downed competition. She still lacks that world OUTDOOR gold to break even with Mu in terms of hardware even though as you said her pro career basically only lasted for 2 years which, frankly, makes it even more impressive.
And Mu is actually younger than Keely so I'm not sure about the "begin-to-arrive" part.
They will find a way to twist it into keely is better than Mu. Despite most of the same arguments from early pages still applying. Similar age yet chasing Mu in terms of prestige since 2022. Keely's kryptonite however is actually Moraa.
Wonder what 2023 Mu would have run with Bicarb

Keely is the most decorated Olympic 800m runner ever for a female. Caster Semenya doesn’t count. Can’t say the same for Mu.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 9:56pm EDT

re: OACHATERZZZZ

OACHATERZZZZ wrote:
SledgeHammers wrote:
Indoor is basically a water-downed competition. She still lacks that world OUTDOOR gold to break even with Mu in terms of hardware even though as you said her pro career basically only lasted for 2 years which, frankly, makes it even more impressive.
And Mu is actually younger than Keely so I'm not sure about the "begin-to-arrive" part.
The Indoor championship was won in a time faster than Mu’s WC. It was more competitive.

Bicarb era dismissed point.

2 months ago 03/23/2026 10:06pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

westsouthrunner wrote:
OACHATERZZZZ wrote:
The Indoor championship was won in a time faster than Mu’s WC. It was more competitive.
Bicarb era dismissed point.

Sodium bicarbonate has existed for decades

2 months ago 03/23/2026 11:29pm EDT

re: westsouthrunner

westsouthrunner wrote:
OACHATERZZZZ wrote:
The Indoor championship was won in a time faster than Mu’s WC. It was more competitive.
Bicarb era dismissed point.

Athing Mu has raced every outdoor season that Keely has during this bicarb era you speak of.

2025: raced the 800 4 times. Avg 2:01

2024: raced the 800 4 times. Avg 2:05

2023: raced the 800 5 times. Avg 1:58

Idk what's worse, you not realizing that she's been racing while bicarb has been available. Or her averaging 5-6 seconds slower than Keely the last couple of seasons while also on bicarb.

2 months ago 03/24/2026 12:00am EDT

re: OACHaterzzzz

OACHaterzzzz wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
When you go to Athing Mu's house there is a medal display with 2 Olympic Golds and a World Gold with all of them being worthy to be displayed next to eachother .
When you go to Keely's house her medal display has 1 Olympic Gold, 2 Worlds silvers, 1 olympic silver, a worl champs bronze and a World indoor Gold. I guarantee you her Olympic Gold is not near her silvers lmao. Same exact argument.
Athing Mu won weak watered down finals.

Lmao watered down with Keely in all of them. You guys aren't good debaters.

2 months ago 03/24/2026 12:11am EDT

re: OACHATERZZZZ

OACHATERZZZZ wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
They will find a way to twist it into keely is better than Mu. Despite most of the same arguments from early pages still applying. Similar age yet chasing Mu in terms of prestige since 2022. Keely's kryptonite however is actually Moraa.
Wonder what 2023 Mu would have run with Bicarb
Keely is the most decorated Olympic 800m runner ever for a female. Caster Semenya doesn’t count. Can’t say the same for Mu.

If semenya don't count I'd give Ajee wilson like 3 golds seriously.

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