Incredibly impressed. This was far better than the best case scenario that I envisioned. I was thinking anything sub 1:50 would be nothing to be ashamed of for his first race back. I didn't Envision anything below 1:47 to be honest. Sure, 1:44.7 isn't what it used to be, maybe, but this is a pretty astounding come back race.
Hoey/Hoppel/Koech/Miller have all run 1:43 already in 2025. Now Brazier's back in the mix. Maybe Sam Whitmarsh or Tinoda Matsatsa makes a jump at NCAAs next week?
Men's 800 getting really interesting in the US this year!
Let’s not forget Hobbs Kessler.
2nd in last year’s Olympic Trials. 1:43.64
I think Kessler said in an interview that he only had the 15 as a lock to run at the US champs but if he runs the 8, he is absolutely in the mix to get on the team.
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In the four years since Brazier was last competitive, men's 800 has gone from the worst to arguably one of the top events in track internationally.
1:44 high in June means pretty much squat, especially coming from a guy that has been AWOL for, I repeat, four years. I'm glad Brazier is back. I root for American athletes and thought he had a shot at the WR based on his progression. This result, for me, is a flash in the pan until proven otherwise over a sustained and competitive racing schedule.
Maybe we are best pumping the brakes some here...
Here above we have the inevitable rain parade post. Nobody in this thread, and doubtfully any sensible knowledgeable fan has yet suggested that because of this one race, Brazier is somehow able to compete with Wanyonyi, Atop, and others at Worlds, let alone even make the USA team against guys like Hoppel and Hoey. You're putting words in people's mouths by building a fake argument.
Everyone is just happy to see DB racing again and posting a world class time. Staying healthy this season, having a racing schedule, competing at all at USAs, racing a few races in Europe, and finishing in decent times will be an unbelievable comeback even if he doesn't run faster than 1:44.70 the rest of the season. Anything beyond that will be icing on the cake, and making the team, making it to the finals in Tokyo, and somehow winning or even medaling will be in the conversation of the greatest sports miracle story in history. It would compete with the USA hockey team beating the Soviets for the gold.
I was not the one who titled the thread "Donny Braz is back, baby!" nor was I the one fawning over the possibility of him pulling a Miracle on Ice and winning the WC in Tokyo this summer (that was you, btw)
Considering he left as a WC and perennial lock for US teams, what else are we to assume that means?
I am rooting for Brazier. IF he rounds into form, he's joining the likes of Hoey, Tual, Hoppel, Sedjati, Arop etc in a loaded 800 event. We would almost certainly see a legitimate run from one of those guys for an ancient WR
I just don't see how one race undoes 4 years of nothing. It is a massively positive result, but I will not be getting over my skis until it is replicated.
I mean, what would the reactions be on this board if Justyn Knight popped a 12:52 tomorrow? Would he be 'back'?
Seeing that he is essentially coming out of a time warp, do you think bicarb could be giving him boost? I know its been around for a long time, but widespread use of the buffered version (especially for 800) seems to have exploded in the past several years while he was largely out of competition.
I ask this respectfully and am not trying to take anything away from his performance.
am I remembering wrong or is he on record saying he hates the nickname Donny Braz?
ha..probably. i don't even know if it's a thing. just remember an announcer calling him that, maybe during that awesome 1500 he ran. One of those cringe things that just lives on
Brazier might be doping but he's wayyyyyy less suspicious than Koech and Hoey.
Four year layoff provides good reason for massive suspicion.
First of all it wasn't a 4 year layoff it was 3 years between 800m races, and second he had surgery multple times during that period. A previous world champion and 1:42.34 guy still in his 20s (28?) before super shoes/spikes and bicarb, not to mention newer training approaches most likely and a low volume guy, with being actually what looks likely to be 100% healthy again, is suspicious? To me its not even the least bit suspicious based on everything we know of Donovan Brazier and his history.