The Travesty is who built this track!? The "girl" ran the final straightaway in 11 seconds....the other girls in 13 seconds. its a bizarre track design for sure, straight aways are insanely short.
She should be booed. If a born male wins state that means: A (genetic) girl did not win, a girl did not podium, a girl did not make the final, and a girl did not go. Now OR works different but in most states this would happen.
This is simple middle school biology. The average boy will be significantly faster than the average girl after puberty. Basically the only people who support this are not athletes. I don't think I know a single runner or any other athlete who says this is fair. I even know a trans woman who thinks this is unfair
There’s nothing fair about sports. It’s not fair at all, that one kid has the talent to run 8:40 for 3200m, while another can’t break 10:00. The there can be the same rules, but that’s it.
You are correct that talent is unfair but we don't allow women to take synthetic testosterone so why allow someone to naturally produce far more testosterone than any of their competitors? There are people who produce more, even among men, but it is a universal difference between males and females.
She should be booed. If a born male wins state that means: A (genetic) girl did not win, a girl did not podium, a girl did not make the final, and a girl did not go. Now OR works different but in most states this would happen.
This is simple middle school biology. The average boy will be significantly faster than the average girl after puberty. Basically the only people who support this are not athletes. I don't think I know a single runner or any other athlete who says this is fair. I even know a trans woman who thinks this is unfair
"She" is inconsistent with everything else in your post.
Because I respect what she wants to be identified as. But not in sports. I will use the pronouns she wants but I will not support the division she wants to compete in. Because other people are negatively affected by it.
Because I really, really care about things like air & water pollution, school funding, forestry issues, women's rights, rule of law, civil rights, and public health. Since the right wing in Washington, Oregon, and around the USA is wrong on those issues, I vote against them.
I hate the idiotic stance the Dems have taken regarding boys in girls' sports, but that is not the only issue that I care about.
Womens rights? Lol murdering the unborn?
Exactly. Say it with your chest: "Abortion", and stop using the plural of the word when you only mean one "right." Just like how dems will no longer use the phrase "gun control" but instead "gun safety." Of course they never actually mean real gun safety, like pointing the muzzle in a safe direction or keeping your finger off the trigger, just banning guns. The euphemism treadmill your masters keep you on must get tiring no?
I have a very young daughter and this one really bugs me. I worry about a day when she is in a locker room after swim practice, etc and a trans changes in front of her and then I have to deal with a substantial issue.
Has it ever crossed your mind that you are voting against women’s rights when you allow men to enter women’s locker rooms and expose their male parts to young girls? Do you understand how disturbing this is to women of all ages, let alone young girls?
This Oregon runner's most recent victories in girls' track - and complaints about his use of girls'/women's locker rooms at school and at scholastic sports events held off campus - have prompted officials in Washington, DC to lanch formal Title IX probes investigating the Oregon School Activities Association and Portland public schools for violating the civil rights of female student-athletes.
U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights Launches Investigations into Portland Public Schools and the Oregon School Activities Association Over Reported Title IX Violations
A male competing against females and using a girls locker room while girls were changing clothing spurred a Department of Education investigation of possible Title IX violations in Oregon.
I have a very young daughter and this one really bugs me. I worry about a day when she is in a locker room after swim practice, etc and a trans changes in front of her and then I have to deal with a substantial issue.
Has it ever crossed your mind that you are voting against women’s rights when you allow men to enter women’s locker rooms and expose their male parts to young girls? Do you understand how disturbing this is to women of all ages, let alone young girls?
Well, some people have daughters like this one. When she was in the third grade, she was kicked out of a boys' locker room by older kids.
I have a very young daughter and this one really bugs me. I worry about a day when she is in a locker room after swim practice, etc and a trans changes in front of her and then I have to deal with a substantial issue.
Has it ever crossed your mind that you are voting against women’s rights when you allow men to enter women’s locker rooms and expose their male parts to young girls? Do you understand how disturbing this is to women of all ages, let alone young girls?
Well, some people have daughters like this one. When she was in the third grade, she was kicked out of a boys' locker room by older kids.
Count your blessing if you are not among those parents.
Lots of boys get bullied, ostracized and worse by by boys and men who are older - and by boys their own age too - in boys' and men's locker rooms, restrooms, sports, dorms, bunkouses, and all sorts of other places meant for males as well as in places open to both sexes.
Male-on-male bullying is a big problem, and it's always been a big problem. But it's a male problem that needs to be sorted out amongst and by boys and men. It's not a problem for girls and women to solve.
Telling boys that an appropriate way for them to deal with being bullied and ostracized by other members of their own sex in boys' and men's locker rooms, restrooms and sports is for them to barge in on girls and women and start helping themselves to our locker rooms, our restrooms and our sports competitions is misogynistic and male supremacist AF.
Girls and women are not human shields for boys and men who are unhappy coz they get picked on and treated like outcasts by members of their own sex. Girls and women have our own hard luck stories and our own battles to fight.
The same boys and men that bully, boss around, kick out, and beat up other boys and men do all those same things - and even worse - to girls and women. And quite a few boys and men who are bullied, cast out and mistreated by others of their own sex actively bully, boss around and mistreat girls and women in myriad ways. Some boys and men who've gotten stick from other blokes all their lives for being "sissies," "nancy boys," wusses, losers and so on are absolute pricks to girls and women.
Girls and women's restrooms, locker rooms and sports are meant to give the female half of the popualtion the same chance that males get to participate as fully as possible in various areas of life outside the home. The purpose of girls' and women's spaces and sports to foster the participation and wellbeing of members of the female sex by providing us with fairness, safety, privacy, dignity, comfort, convenience, peace of mind in conditions that are tailored to our needs and are as hygeinic as possible.
Girls' and women's restrooms, locker rooms and sports are not resources for boys and men seeking refuge from the unpleasant experience of being picked on, frozen out, kicked out and knocked around by other members of their sex.
Your entire position can be boiled down to this: because some boys and men unfortunately get mistreated by other members of their sex, or don't feel fully at home amongst members of their own sex, girls and women should be made to pay by losing the right to have any spaces and sports that don't include males.
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Let’s see if funding to Oregon is cut and if they’ll cave
But the government of the state of Maine didn't really cave. The University of Maine system said it won't allow males who say they have a trans, nonbinary or other similar gender identity to compete in women's college sports. That's something that all Maine universities and collges would have to do anyway in order to comply with the current policies of the NCAA and NAIA.
The main bone(r) of contention between Maine and the Trump administration is over Maine allowing male students at publicly-funded middle schools and high schools to compete in girls' school sports if the male students say they have a trans, nonbinary or other gender identity different to their sex and competing in girls' sports is what these boys prefer.
The policy that allows boys in Maine to use gender identity claims to compete in girls' school sports below the college/university level is the work of the Maine Principals' Association.
The MPA policy is being enforced, upheld and vigorously defended by the MPA, the Maine Department of Education, Maine administrators in K-12 education, local school boards, the leading Democratic Party members of the Maine state legislature, the Maine Human Rights Commission and most of the adminstration of Governor Janet Mills entirely apart from the Maine University system.
The same boys and men that bully, boss around, kick out, and beat up other boys and men do all those same things - and even worse - to girls and women. And quite a few boys and men who are bullied, cast out and mistreated by others of their own sex actively bully, boss around and mistreat girls and women in myriad ways. Some boys and men who've gotten stick from other blokes all their lives for being "sissies," "nancy boys," wusses, losers and so on are absolute pricks to girls and women.
Olivia Junkeer was bullied, bossed around, kicked out and beaten up by Georgie so much that she wanted Georgie to be a regular on her show. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. /s
Your entire position can be boiled down to this: because some boys and men unfortunately get mistreated by other members of their sex, or don't feel fully at home amongst members of their own sex, girls and women should be made to pay by losing the right to have any spaces and sports that don't include males.
No. People like Georgie are not "boys who were mistreated by other members of their sex."
Just ask Georgie's childhood friend Leah. When they were eleven, Leah forgot that Georgie was trans because "it was so unimportant" to their friendship.
Your entire position can be boiled down to this: because some boys and men unfortunately get mistreated by other members of their sex, or don't feel fully at home amongst members of their own sex, girls and women should be made to pay by losing the right to have any spaces and sports that don't include males.
No. People like Georgie are not "boys who were mistreated by other members of their sex."
Just ask Georgie's childhood friend Leah. When they were eleven, Leah forgot that Georgie was trans because "it was so unimportant" to their friendship.
Huh? When you posted photos of Australia's former "trans poster child" Georgie Stone earlier, you said that when Stone was in third grade circa 2008-9, Stone "was kicked out of a boys' locker room by older kids."
Which I took to mean that Georgie was one of the many, many "boys who were mistreated by other members of their sex" in grade school and high school.
But now you assure me,
No. People like Georgie are not "boys who were mistreated by other members of their sex."
So which part do I have wrong? Georgie's sex - or the sex of the older kids who kicked Georgie out of a boy's locker room when Georgie was in third grade?
If the older kids who kicked Georgie out of a boy's locker room when Georgie was in third grade were the opposite sex to Georgie, I would be very surprised. Because in my experience and observation, it's highly unilkely that a bunch of older female children or teenage girls would be hanging around in a boys' locker room and bullying third-grade boys out of there.
Most female children and teenage girls would be loathe to step foot in a boys' locker room. But if they did dare to enter a boys' locker room, chances are they wouldn't spend their time in there bullying anyone.
But as this happened in Australia, I might well be wrong. Maybe it's customary there for girls to hang out in boys' locker rooms bullying third-grade boys??? After all, the nicknames for the place are "the land down under" and "Oz."
Could it be that when Olivia Newton-John famously sang,
Let's get physical, physical I wanna get physical Let's get into physical Let's get animal, animal I wanna get animal Let's get into animal
she was referring to the time she spent as a girl hanging around in boys' locker rooms picking on and ousting third-grade boys?
Then again, another famous song from yesteryear makes it hard for me to believe that there's ever been a time in history when girls in Australia have been in the habit of going into boys' locker rooms in the first place, much less spending time in there bullying and kicking out little kids like third-grade Georgie:
Living in a land down under Where women glow and men plunder
Or is it the case that the older kids who kicked third-grade Georgie out of a boys' locker room really were boys themselves like I originally surmised - but you want me to believe that Georgie is female coz you and others call Georgie a girl?
