Are rekrunner and armstronglivs the same person? They're both dishonest and "argue" in the exact same way. It's just one person trolling in every thread, right?
Yes, poor rekbot. Now even he can't deny anymore that Katir is a cheater. No wonder he is so quiet here (while resuming his trolling in the Houlihan threads).
Is he a cheater? Seems ambiguous without further clarification.
I read the two AIU reports. Seems Katir missed three tests, and comically doctored a plane ticket. That was wrong missing the tests, and providing false documents, and a 4 year ban seems well reasoned and justified.
Did you read the AIU reports? Really? Then you should have noticed that he didn't just "comically doctored a plane ticket", but falsified THREE travel documents (ironically not including the plane ticket but the boarding pass). He also lied about each and every one of his "missed" tests. But rekrunner be rekrunner, always downplaying the offenses and the damning facts no matter how obvious they are.
But the real strategy is not your obvious and expected trolling for this doper/cheater, but that the AIU was too incompetent to notice the falsifications on March 09, 2023, or shortly thereafter .... and never provisionally suspended Katir for tampering. So he could happily steal a silver medal at the end of August 2023 from Krop in Budapest! And yes of course, Grijalva deserves Krop's bronze medal.
Everyone is the elite world is doping period. The system is obligated to catch some of the cheaters to keep you entertained and believing in fair play.
Very accurate description here! 🫡👏👏👏
Have to disagree with the King of Physics on this one.
You were probably replying to a shill who has Jama Aden on his list of contacts.
"The most obvious doper in history" gets busted, and it proves that everybody is doping?
Are you actually being serious? The dude was Morceli 2.0- a legit science experiment. Training partner popped (kaouch), Driouch reportedly doped by Kada (El Gerrouj's coach). He dominated in a time of HEAVY epo use.
To be completely honest, this is why I still lend some credence to El G's performances even if he was doping. Being the clear 1500m GOAT time-wise and demonstrably better than other PED users ratifies the mix of training/ability that he employed, and I don't think it's an unrealistic possibility that if everyone had been 100% clean when he was running, Hicham still would've been a level above.
For the millionth time: "Everyone is doping so it's a level playing field" is not at all correct. Some donkeys can turn into race horses, some racehorses turn into slightly faster racehorses , etc
Is he a cheater? Seems ambiguous without further clarification.
I read the two AIU reports. Seems Katir missed three tests, and comically doctored a plane ticket. That was wrong missing the tests, and providing false documents, and a 4 year ban seems well reasoned and justified.
Did you read the AIU reports? Really? Then you should have noticed that he didn't just "comically doctored a plane ticket", but falsified THREE travel documents (ironically not including the plane ticket but the boarding pass). He also lied about each and every one of his "missed" tests. But rekrunner be rekrunner, always downplaying the offenses and the damning facts no matter how obvious they are.
But the real strategy is not your obvious and expected trolling for this doper/cheater, but that the AIU was too incompetent to notice the falsifications on March 09, 2023, or shortly thereafter .... and never provisionally suspended Katir for tampering. So he could happily steal a silver medal at the end of August 2023 from Krop in Budapest! And yes of course, Grijalva deserves Krop's bronze medal.
Yes I did. Really. I thought the bans were well explained and reasoned and justified, and have no negative criticisms against the AIU or the arbitrators. I didn't exclusively say "just". One lie or three lies is still a 4-year ban for tampering, and I do not defend any of the lies, nor the missed tests. But I'm glad we are on the same page saying that he was lying, as "rule readerer" thought it didn't seem so much like lying.
I don't have any "real strategy" to call the AIU incompetent for any delays -- why is it so important for you to keep trolling me with weird allegations of things that you seemingly just make up? I read the parts where the length and the start date and the DQ of results from the tampering ban was discussed and thought it was well reasoned when they rejected the "AIU incompetence" argument.
To be completely honest, this is why I still lend some credence to El G's performances even if he was doping. Being the clear 1500m GOAT time-wise and demonstrably better than other PED users ratifies the mix of training/ability that he employed, and I don't think it's an unrealistic possibility that if everyone had been 100% clean when he was running, Hicham still would've been a level above.
For the millionth time: "Everyone is doping so it's a level playing field" is not at all correct. Some donkeys can turn into race horses, some racehorses turn into slightly faster racehorses , etc
There is no such thing as "proof by repetition".
To settle the discussion, you need real data connecting doping to faster race horse performances than would be possible without doping. Currently we have data that some doping turns donkeys into slightly faster donkeys in the short term.
Did you read the AIU reports? Really? Then you should have noticed that he didn't just "comically doctored a plane ticket", but falsified THREE travel documents (ironically not including the plane ticket but the boarding pass). He also lied about each and every one of his "missed" tests. But rekrunner be rekrunner, always downplaying the offenses and the damning facts no matter how obvious they are.
But the real strategy is not your obvious and expected trolling for this doper/cheater, but that the AIU was too incompetent to notice the falsifications on March 09, 2023, or shortly thereafter .... and never provisionally suspended Katir for tampering. So he could happily steal a silver medal at the end of August 2023 from Krop in Budapest! And yes of course, Grijalva deserves Krop's bronze medal.
Yes I did. Really. I thought the bans were well explained and reasoned and justified, and have no negative criticisms against the AIU or the arbitrators. I didn't exclusively say "just". One lie or three lies is still a 4-year ban for tampering, and I do not defend any of the lies, nor the missed tests. But I'm glad we are on the same page saying that he was lying, as "rule readerer" thought it didn't seem so much like lying.
I don't have any "real strategy" to call the AIU incompetent for any delays -- why is it so important for you to keep trolling me with weird allegations of things that you seemingly just make up? I read the parts where the length and the start date and the DQ of results from the tampering ban was discussed and thought it was well reasoned when they rejected the "AIU incompetence" argument.
Look Mr PD stop all these charade alright!!!! We know how good you are at playing hide and seek with us all!!!!! Why should we trust what you say after being disconcerted by you??????
You could if you wanted to carino! Venga pones animo!
Mr PD King rekrunner still at it while I was away for bodily recuperation?????????? You can never change a man set in his ways!!!!
I'm still condemning missing tests and lying about it. I cannot condone intentionally or negligently violating rules no matter how much you want me to change.
Look Mr PD stop all these charade alright!!!! We know how good you are at playing hide and seek with us all!!!!! Why should we trust what you say after being disconcerted by you??????
I don't play hide and seek. On the contrary, I ask everyone to play show and tell.
Look Mr PD stop all these charade alright!!!! We know how good you are at playing hide and seek with us all!!!!! Why should we trust what you say after being disconcerted by you??????
I don't play hide and seek. On the contrary, I ask everyone to play show and tell.
Start laying some criminal charges on these dopers then let's see things change fast. Here's an applicable one: criminal fraud over 10k. Put them in jail.
Well it is cheating the system. The lengths he went to deceive are objectively bizarre for an athlete on his first strike. I guess what we don’t know is if it really was his first, but since his next missed test was not far after it, and the brief didn’t lend context, it appears it was. So outside of cheating the system in a planned pattern it’s hard to rationalize what Katir was doing. Of course the reason to cheat the system is more likely to be to facilitate planned doping than just anticipated laziness/unprofessionalism. Of course you can’t rule anything out with humans.
Highly unlikely Katir acted alone. Clearly his Dad was involved in his sons deception. We’re there others?
No mention of Katirs Agent or Coach.
Who has the most to gain in Katir’s running? Katir and his agent.
Stupid autocorrect ruined the second paragraph. 2nd try:
But the real *tragedy* is ...
that the AIU was too incompetent to notice the falsifications on March 09, 2023, or shortly thereafter .... and never provisionally suspended Katir for tampering. So he could happily steal a silver medal at the end of August 2023 from Krop in Budapest! And yes of course, Grijalva deserves Krop's bronze medal.
Have to disagree with the King of Physics on this one.
You were probably replying to a shill who has Jama Aden on his list of contacts.
"The most obvious doper in history" gets busted, and it proves that everybody is doping?
No. Just no.
Thank you for pointing that out Coevett ! On hindsight I shouldn’t have insinuated that absolutely all and sundry are doping in concert even as I probably suffered a momentary loss of concentration due to many exertions of the day!