Sean Carlson: “Some Programs Have Quick Fixes of 7 Kids that are 27 Years Old from Different Parts of the World”

They did not get a full scholarship from NIL. You think you know more than you do. The rumors that xc is all NIL deals are false.

The question then was what was his technique to get all those kids to come to Knoxville, when he had the same scholarship limits as all other programs?

General belief was he was offering booster donated NIL as a sub for scholarships in many cases.

If not, why all of a sudden would 30 kids want to go to Tennesee?

Had an athlete almost do grad school at Tennessee when he was there. She was told the cost of grad school would be covered by NIL and not athletic scholarship. Ultimately she didn’t go there, and rightfully got a little wary about it not being a traditional scholarship.

I’ve recruited against him plenty for undergrads while he was there as well. In having financial talks with parents of athletes and comparing offers, it lines up with the NLI talk as well. Not ALL athletes, but certainly some.

That isn’t the only reason a lot of people go to his programs though. He genuinely selects good people who bring a lot to team culture. All the athletes that I really wanted that chose Tennessee had strong leadership qualities. He is good at building a program, regardless of NLI usage.

Ummmm... wait so you're crying that we should protect these college kids from having to compete against the rest of the world. But then how do you expect them to compete against the rest of the world when they graduate. Yes, the 27y/o thing is (albeit speculative) probably true... and not helpful. But if the US wants to compete on the world stage they're going to have to get used to competing against (and beating) Kenyans. I can't think of a better way to condition a young American future Grant Fisher than demystifying Kenyans as unbeatable.

School is first and foremost for studying. Sports is a revenue generator and attracts admissions for sure, but let's not pretend track/XC is either of these things. Olympians can be developed outside the NCAA system, as Hobbs Kessler and athletes from other countries have shown.

Carlson has been at CU for two seconds. Let's see how this academic year goes before we can say his "homegrown" strategy still work. It stopped working for Wetmore.

What do you mean? He didn’t need to recruit, he brought half his Tennessee team with him and got transfers. Getting 8th at nuttycomb no matter how you slice it is not good. And if we’re lucky his bosses will be fired soon too, Rick George is as much of the problem as anyone else, bungled the whole hiring.

boohoo puss(y). The argument is about age not location. Not sure if you have ventured outside of your bubble but everybody has to compete against everybody

When he was hired, he had just the Colorado roster and essentially no class of '24 recruits. That's his base.

A few days after he was hired, he moved out the CU deadweight and brought in Tennesee guys and transfers. He gets credit for recruiting these people.

I'm not a fan of George, Dion, or Carlson's style either, but we should be fair in evaluating him. Carlson did not end Wetmore's tenure, and on paper he was a good hire. We will see how it works out.

The technique is called 'Deceitfulness'

Sounds nice, but does not explain anything.

The Buffs seem to be doing fairly well with recruits thus far.

In-state star and legacy to arguably to most prominent alum in program history Addy Ritzenhein has chosen NAU. I guess for some, Boulder is not Paradise.

He isn’t wrong. I think the NCAA should institute foreign athlete roster limits comparable with European sports leagues. Most European soccer leagues average anllowing around 3 athletes per club (range from 2-4). I think that is a realistic number (maybe 2 for XC).

Well Kenyan athlete and 3 time transfer Dominic Serem is headed to CU via Toledo / Oklahoma. Way to stick to your word Carlson!

I was diametrically opposed to your view. Your post made me stop and think. Thanks.

If you can’t beat em, join em!

I mean, isn't he just a two time transfer?

Transfer #1: oklahoma -> Toledo
Transfer #2: Toledo -> Colorado

the point remains though. He used to rail on africans.

Didn't this Sarem guy get in some trouble somewhere? Either oklahoma or back home or both.