Reminds me of investors who believe that stocks in a long-term downtrend will just keep falling, without exception, based on the fact that this is true for the vast majority. Unable to make independent assessments. Intellectual laziness.
Brian Komen is another interesting case. He is listed at 25, almost 26. Yet, he has no results at all on IAAF prior to 2023, when he emerged with a 3:33. Now he has knocked off another 5 seconds in a year. Where was all of the developing stage in his career? No 3:40s or 3:37s or 3:35s before last year? Now he drops 5 seconds in one year to a world all-time elite time in his mid-20s. Is there any plausible explanation?
1500 Metres 2023 3:33.84 Golęcin Stadion, Poznan (POL) 18 JUN 2023 2024 3:28.80 Stade Louis II, Monaco (MON) 12 JUL 2024
You forgot to mention he's Kenyan. Must be up to something.
Eh Coevett?
We’ve heard a good bit about Komen. He ran cross country for many of the years (2018-22) though not formally trained. He studied and got his microbiology degree at school in his early 20s. There is no NCAA in Kenya. He decided to go more all-in on running, doing structured track work and was noticed last year by a former athlete James Kwalia who helps local athletes in the area. He ran 3:35 at altitude in Kenya winning a few weekend meetings before that on dirt tracks etc. Now his results got agencies interested, and they and Kwalia helped get him to Europe for that 3:33.8 PB, and then indoors experience this year. It seems Rosas agency gave him the kit recently after his success in Kenya/Africa Games/Doha this year
He WILL be in Paris as the second and fourth at Kenyan Trials don’t have the standard or ranking.
The thing about the pacers and lights is that you KNOW the field is roasted going into the last lap so you just worry about the clock. No way in hell anyone has the balls or the margin of fitness to time trial in an Olympic final to drop the field. If Jakob pulled that off I'd be ready to call him 1500 GOAT without the WR. I'm gonna argue that running a PB now isn't necessarily a good thing, as Jakob will once again put faith in a flawed strategy of pacing the field but not being able to drop the likes of Kerr.
This is the same guy who said a few months ago that Jakob wouldn’t even make the olympic final.
Are you nuts? Post that comment and back up your nonsense.
You hint at why I'm starting to think it' not best for Jakob to make it a time trial. Get to the lead but 56-57 a lap may be good enough - occasionally slow it down, speed it up. You want people coming around Kerr, boxing him in, making Kerr run in lane 2 etc. If Jakob tries to time trial it, Kerr gets to run no extra distance and gets the perfect ride and rabbit much like Jessica Hull in Paris.
I wonder how much Jakob thinks about this. Seriously, it may not be as much as we think as how many humans in the history of the world have been in his spot - not many.
Rojo, good idea. This really could mess with Kerr. But somehow pace swings do not seem to fit Jakob’s style. He doesn’t play many games other than the I’m-in-your-head-and-gonna-beat-you-straight-up game.
It is going to be fun to see how this unfolds on race day. Can’t wait.
We already know how it's going to unfold. Jakob is in his own head again because he's run the fastest paced races this year. He's going to scratch his head for the first 200 until he realizes no one else is going to pace it for him, then he's going to take the lead before lap 2 and pace the field to a 3:29/30. If he gets lucky, Kerr and other fast kickers will tire themselves fighting to sit on his shoulder. But this is unlikely because the field will be strung out from the pace. It'll be down to the kick again and Jakob is not the fastest finisher.
Jakob raced like Kipyegon today. I've been calling for him to do that. Normally he screws around at the beginning of the race and needlessly sacrifices so much time and energy by being forced to loop the field and run extra meters in lane 2 or 3. In both of the world championship defeats he gave away more ground than the losing margin.
Today I knew it was a good sign when he started from the rail instead of his typical spot far on the outside. Maybe Jakob requested that. It forced him to accelerate off the line and grab the rail just behind the pacers.
From that point he was home free. It was just a matter of 3:26 what.
The world record will come later, whenever he's ready and requests that type of pace. He'll have to make sure it's exactly the same scenario...starting from the inside and making sure nobody bothers him to the railbird spot.
Did you just start following track and field yesterday? Jakob had Tim Cheruiyot as his de facto pacer in that race.
So when it's Jakob out front setting the pace and he gets beat, it's all kudos to the winner 🏆 and proof Jakob is a one-hit wonder at time trialing but can't win in champs races.
But if it's Jakob not in front, and he wins late in champs race, its definitely bc he had a "pacer" and is just displaying his great "time-trialing" skills off that pacer. But has no real racing chops.
Lol
Kiss the ring nerds, this dude is superior to all. Lost some battles, but the war is one-sided (and will be for years to come).
Uh no. Jakob is the only one who makes excuses when he loses, that's the difference. Lose with grace and respect the competition when they beat you. But sure, it would be awesome to see what happens if Jakob doesn't pace and leaves it to a tactical race, lol.
Why would he not? OG are about country; not about the individual accomplishment.
I guarantee Nordas as an individual cares more about his personal medal chances than Norway’s medal chances as a whole. In addition, look at who Nordas’s coach is. I wouldn’t be surprised if they would rather neither of them get a medal than Nordas paces Jakob to gold.
Did you just start following track and field yesterday? Jakob had Tim Cheruiyot as his de facto pacer in that race.
So when it's Jakob out front setting the pace and he gets beat, it's all kudos to the winner 🏆 and proof Jakob is a one-hit wonder at time trialing but can't win in champs races.
But if it's Jakob not in front, and he wins late in champs race, its definitely bc he had a "pacer" and is just displaying his great "time-trialing" skills off that pacer. But has no real racing chops.
Lol
Kiss the ring nerds, this dude is superior to all. Lost some battles, but the war is one-sided (and will be for years to come).
The war is one-sided, but not in Jakob’s favor. He has a meager 1-4 record in global championship 1500m races. That means he has lost 80 percent of those races. You can moan and groan about it all you want, and you can list every lame excuse in the book for his losses, but it doesn’t change the reality of that 1-4 record. The results speak for themselves. You’ve been reality checked.
Reminds me of investors who believe that stocks in a long-term downtrend will just keep falling, without exception, based on the fact that this is true for the vast majority. Unable to make independent assessments. Intellectual laziness.
Lance is anecdotal evidence and little else
Lance is more than "anecdotal" - your grandma is anecdotal; he is cold hard evidence of a top level doper, of what motivated him, and how he went about it - and how he tried to conceal or deny it. If you rely on the example of the accomplishments of top athletes to show how to succeed in sport then in the same way Lance has shown how a top-level doper works. You can't find a better example.
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This. Today’s race means nothing for Paris. We already know Jakob is Super Man when it comes to time trialing. Not having pacing help is his kryptonite in the 1500.
