Training with the POSE method

Yes, but they will be triathletes.

What's funny is that this thread was created as a joke and here it is, over 100 posts later, still on the front page. Let it die, please!

Hint: if you want a thread to die, do not post replies.

which clearly, you don't want.

Me? Certainly not! I get paid by the post. Post on!

There's an interesting thread running on the POSE website, with regard to this here thread on letsrun...

linkage....?

Sonny wrote:

Has Carl Lewis called yet?

He's probably disappointed to know he wasn't a very good runner.

Dr Romanov doesn't say that Carl Lewis had bad style, he actually says he had good style, but with a few minor faults. Romanov also said that he didn't always run with these faults and the ones he did have would not have slowed him down much, but certainly would have caused his injuries.

Is this the correct way to look at running movement?

I see the forces being exerted in a running stride as "Upwards and forwards" and then "downwards and fowards". Effectively pushing yourself upwards against gravity but still forwards and then falling forwards and downwards with gravity..

If you graphed the forces it would be like an inverted series of:

VVVVVVV's

Everyones stride has varying degrees of these two forces in both phases of their strides. Upward forward and downward forward.

This depends on their bodies. Short legs long legs strong quads small calves ; high arches etc etc etc .. Some people have lots of vertical movement in their strides and some more forward movement..

Whats more efficient is completely dependent on the mass; and shape of what you are trying to move..and although you could probably tweak these changing the basic fundementals is almost impossible..

JimFiore wrote:

Jeremy Huffman wrote:

I will be wearing spikes when I compete later this season. The reason is to have a stable support to fall from, not to have traction to push myself upwards.

Actually, an UNstable platform would be preferred if the point is to fall. Also, you don't really need "traction" (which generally refers to a horizontal component of friction) to "push (your)self upwards". In that case, what you need is a stable platform. Consequently, I deduce that you have this completely backward.

Finally, accusing someone of being "scientifically brainwashed" is kind of like denouncing someone for not believing that Friday the 13th is unlucky or because they have a large vocabulary and know how to spell. That's just plain dumb.

Asterix, I take my earlier comment back. If approached correctly, I can see how this can be rather amusing.

I POSE (no pun intended) a question to Jhuffman then...If a POSEr was to run on a frictionless table, would they be able to achieve forward motion?

Rogerthesheep wrote:

Alex wrote:

Dr. R claims that you should only pull with the hamstrings - no other muscle action.

I don't see how this would give a more favourable spread of load over muscle groups than a technique that utilises glutes, hamstrings, quads, and calves etc in a corect manner.

Is this what really happens though? I mean, no sport isolates only one muscle group... What Romanov claims, and what the facts are seem to be two very different things...

I am only trying to understand here what has made the POSE method so popular with some elite (tri)athletes... There may well be something to it, beyond the rather extravagant claims of Dr. Romanov?

By following his advice, people will try to use only hamstrings. Ok, the real effect will be in terms of greater emphasis on the action of the hamstrings, and less emphasis on other muscle groups rather than complete isolation of the muscle group. I still think my point holds. Why focus the effort on one large muscle group instead of the same large muscle group and others too??

A number of things in POSE are perfectly sound aspects of good technique:

Light contact on forefoot

Contact under your hips (i.e. not overstriding)

No bending at the waist

Probably some others too.

I absolutely agree that learning to do these things will improve your running. But these things are far from unique to POSE - these things were recognised long before Dr. R's POSE method came along.

The thing that makes POSE distinct from general 'good technique', the thing that makes it POSE is the whole "don't drive, only pull, let gravity do the work for you" business - which is garbage.

Alex wrote:

I absolutely agree that learning to do these things will improve your running. But these things are far from unique to POSE - these things were recognised long before Dr. R's POSE method came along.

The thing that makes POSE distinct from general 'good technique', the thing that makes it POSE is the whole "don't drive, only pull, let gravity do the work for you" business - which is garbage.

This reminds of an old quote (I forget the attribution):

"Your work is both original and good. Unfortunately, the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good."

JimFiore wrote:

This reminds of an old quote (I forget the attribution):

"Your work is both original and good. Unfortunately, the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good."

Supposedly attributed to Samuel Johnson, but incorrectly it would appear: