Project Veritas talking to a guy about his story is your evidence?
Yeah I won't hold my breath that this thread ever becomes serious.
Project Veritas talking to a guy about his story is your evidence?
Yeah I won't hold my breath that this thread ever becomes serious.
voter suppression and fraud wrote:
We feel the same about the Democratic party. We see it, hear it, and experience it. Do you really believe that Democrats don't lie, steal, cheat, extort, abuse, commit crimes, etccc at all, or least not to the degree of Republicans? Are you that naive or narcissistic?
"Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:
Trump (Republican) — 215
Nixon (Republican) — 76
Reagan (Republican) — 26
"Recent administrations with the LEAST criminal indictments:
Obama (Democrat) — 0
Carter (Democrat) — 1
Clinton (Democrat) — 2
"Notice a pattern?"
Oh look, the new conspiracy theory is voter fraud. Put it up there with flat earth.
This basically stems from Trumps ego being too big to accept he lost legitimately. It could’ve been a landslide loss and he would’ve said the same thing.
It is like people who think Elvis didn’t really die, he just moved to Mexico. Or the guy in your running group that aways would’ve done much better if it wasn’t for some injury or other lame reason.
I look forward to hearing about this for years to come.
voter suppression and fraud wrote:
alternate opinion wrote:
As crazy as it is, I've learned that this is not effective argument with the right because they genuinely don't believe he is a liar, they believe it's the media who are the liars.
So think about it from their perspective. Think about how clearly and obviously you know that Trump is a liar. If you genuinely thought that way about the Dems and media, you'd make the same argument in the other direction and you'd believe what Trump is saying now. And when we keep saying there is no evidence, we would just continue to be liars.
It's a crazy world we live in.
We feel the same about the Democratic party. We see it, hear it, and experience it. Do you really believe that Democrats don't lie, steal, cheat, extort, abuse, commit crimes, etccc at all, or least not to the degree of Republicans? Are you that naive or narcissistic?
See, I was right.
I'll answer your question, maybe it can be a productive dialogue. I think Democrats generally act in good faith. I'm sure you can find examples of that not happening, but certainly not to the extent of Trump where every single day something he says can be disputed with a simple fact check. It started day 1 with Sean Spicer shouting at the media about the historic size of Trump's inaugural crowd and it looks like it will continue to the end, even as every news organization and prominent Republicans confirm Trump is spouting untruths about the vote counts. As for the Republican party, it's a shame they supported this man. GWB was a disastrous President but at least a decent human being. This is a disgrace.
What lies, cheating, etc do you have in mind for the Dems? If I'm being naive I'd like to hear what I'm being naive about.
alternate opinion wrote:
What lies, cheating, etc do you have in mind for the Dems? If I'm being naive I'd like to hear what I'm being naive about.
Don't you know about the Clinton's child sex ring being run from the basement of a pizza shop? Or how Hunter Biden only lost being president due to the good work being done by Rudy Giuliani? Please comrade, come read more on RT News or Sputnik news where the good democratic state of Russia funds the news that promotes democracy and stability for their new good friend and allies, USA. Remember - it is only through the state funded media from Russia that truth and democracy can flourish in USA. We will make America Great Again through Trump!
Wide spaces for dreams and living
Are opened for us by the coming years
Our loyalty to our Motherland gives us strength
Thus it was, thus it is, and thus it will always be!
This is also a problem. How does a system mess up its one job like this?
You folks are such rubes. Do you know how pathetic this flailing and complaining looks to folks?
dunes runner wrote:
Nonsense! wrote:
Trump needs to sack up and accept the results.
I agree, and the actual results show that Trump won and Biden lost the election.
When I was a young schoolboy I could only dream of the planet that you live on where math doesn't exist.
The funny thing is you keep offering tweets as proof hahaha.
runnerguy2016 wrote:
This is also a problem. How does a system mess up its one job like this?
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1324868401563660290
Congratulations! It took to page 6 for someone to post something I could Google elsewhere to at least confirm might be a thing. I do see some reporting on this, for example the NY Post writes:
" Michigan GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox said at a Friday press conference that...in Antrim County...the county clerk came forward and said, ‘tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes.'” Finally something we can actually verify by actually asking the county clerk in Antrim County what he or she found. Granted this article does not quote that clerk, merely a GOP chairwoman, but for the sake of argument let's assume the clerk will corroborate.
If this is true - then YES, I absolutely support investigating to see how much this is happening. Get the votes correct, even if it tips the election back the other way. Country first, party second.
Good on you anonymous poster for actually finding something worth investigating as an irregularity. Unclear if it's fraud, human error, technical glitch at this point, but yeah, look into it.
You really don’t think Trump massively lies more than the average human being?
Before you cry, “sore loser”, I didn’t vote for Trump. But I still think it’s reasonably likely the dems committed voter fraud. And the whole purpose of fraud is to get away with it and NOT leave evidence.
It would be in the form of ballots conveniently “disappearing”....sort of like Epstein conveniently disappeared from earth. Now there is no way to prove it, but gosh it sure looks sus doesn’t it?
I doubt anyone will be able show proof of fraud and turn the election results. Most dems will assume that means there wasn’t any fraud, and most republican Trumpers will assume there was and they just got away with it. I’m not a Trumper, but still inclined to believe the latter because of the stakes of the election and the mail in ballot Covid opportunity providing favorable conditions for fraud. But it is what it is. I really didn’t care who won this and didn’t vote for either one.
george c wrote:
voter suppression and fraud wrote:
We feel the same about the Democratic party. We see it, hear it, and experience it. Do you really believe that Democrats don't lie, steal, cheat, extort, abuse, commit crimes, etccc at all, or least not to the degree of Republicans? Are you that naive or narcissistic?
"Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:
Trump (Republican) — 215
Nixon (Republican) — 76
Reagan (Republican) — 26
"Recent administrations with the LEAST criminal indictments:
Obama (Democrat) — 0
Carter (Democrat) — 1
Clinton (Democrat) — 2
"Notice a pattern?"
Holly sh1t! Democrats are great people..Thanks for the facts! Everyone should see these #s. Folks, even people like George c get to vote.
no mo baby face wrote:
Oh look, the new conspiracy theory is voter fraud. Put it up there with flat earth.
This basically stems from Trumps ego being too big to accept he lost legitimately. It could’ve been a landslide loss and he would’ve said the same thing.
It is like people who think Elvis didn’t really die, he just moved to Mexico. Or the guy in your running group that aways would’ve done much better if it wasn’t for some injury or other lame reason.
I look forward to hearing about this for years to come.
Yes, President Trump is going to narrowly lose. We get it. Democrats are capable of rioting, looting, destruction, pedophilia, and the murder of babies in utero but NOT cheating in an election. Now, we know who we are dealing with.
alternate opinion wrote:
voter suppression and fraud wrote:
We feel the same about the Democratic party. We see it, hear it, and experience it. Do you really believe that Democrats don't lie, steal, cheat, extort, abuse, commit crimes, etccc at all, or least not to the degree of Republicans? Are you that naive or narcissistic?
See, I was right.
I'll answer your question, maybe it can be a productive dialogue. I think Democrats generally act in good faith. I'm sure you can find examples of that not happening, but certainly not to the extent of Trump where every single day something he says can be disputed with a simple fact check. It started day 1 with Sean Spicer shouting at the media about the historic size of Trump's inaugural crowd and it looks like it will continue to the end, even as every news organization and prominent Republicans confirm Trump is spouting untruths about the vote counts. As for the Republican party, it's a shame they supported this man. GWB was a disastrous President but at least a decent human being. This is a disgrace.
What lies, cheating, etc do you have in mind for the Dems? If I'm being naive I'd like to hear what I'm being naive about.
I've seen tons of videos of Clinton (m&f) lying on tape. The same with Obama (whom I do like). The fact that you cant fathom if a member of your team is capable of wrong doing or sin is enough for me. But hey, a life long Democrat who recently changed to Republican lies 198 times per day per CNN Misinformation Department.
If there is serious voter fraud then it would have occurred in every US election. But it only occurs when the Liar-In-Chief has lost. Sure.
Armstronglivs wrote:
If there is serious voter fraud then it would have occurred in every US election. But it only occurs when the Liar-In-Chief has lost. Sure.
Yeah lol.
And the machines are even more hackable... electronic votes that have no paper trail can be easily easily hacked and changed.
These guys are serious losers.
Swaglord_the_real_one_1_1_1 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
If there is serious voter fraud then it would have occurred in every US election. But it only occurs when the Liar-In-Chief has lost. Sure.
Yeah lol.
And the machines are even more hackable... electronic votes that have no paper trail can be easily easily hacked and changed.
These guys are serious losers.
Exactly, Russians can't hack our computers , much less some low life Democrats. Lol
voter suppression and fraud wrote:
I've seen tons of videos of Clinton (m&f) lying on tape. The same with Obama (whom I do like). The fact that you cant fathom if a member of your team is capable of wrong doing or sin is enough for me. But hey, a life long Democrat who recently changed to Republican lies 198 times per day per CNN Misinformation Department.
I never said my team was incapable of doing wrong. But you said "lie, steal, cheat, extort, abuse, commit crimes, etccc" and I don't know what you're referring to. I at least gave you two examples from Trump, there are about a million.
If you don't want to bother being specific it's fine. These internet arguments end up taking effort and then they never convince the other side so what's the point of finding the perfect example, am I right? I've spent far too much time today here anyway and already regretting the time suck.
Hey I'll throw you a bone - Bill Clinton committed perjury and was rightly impeached. You're not supposed to lie under oath. He did. You can't do that.
Since we at least share a love of running I'll wish you a good weekend. Cheers.
only russia cares about our democracy wrote:
alternate opinion wrote:
Congratulations! It took to page 6 for someone to post something I could Google elsewhere to at least confirm might be a thing. I do see some reporting on this, for example the NY Post writes:
" Michigan GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox said at a Friday press conference that...in Antrim County...the county clerk came forward and said, ‘tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes.'” Finally something we can actually verify by actually asking the county clerk in Antrim County what he or she found. Granted this article does not quote that clerk, merely a GOP chairwoman, but for the sake of argument let's assume the clerk will corroborate.
If this is true - then YES, I absolutely support investigating to see how much this is happening. Get the votes correct, even if it tips the election back the other way. Country first, party second.
Good on you anonymous poster for actually finding something worth investigating as an irregularity. Unclear if it's fraud, human error, technical glitch at this point, but yeah, look into it.
This is good work, but, alas, the cry to address the problem comes after the problem was addressed. There is already far too much local coverage explaining what occurred, it was fixed and Trump did win Antrim county. As well, Antrim county is also already doing a manual recount anyway to be sure.
Keep looking comrades - but please consider sticking to reliable Russian news sources and not things that are widely covered by local news. Alternatively, just make things up. It's difficult to get the narrative we want out there if main stream media knows about it and provides actual facts. Facts are not helpful to a good Russian democracy that we dream of for the USA.
By the way this is some funny sh*t, lol