yawn wrote:
...I’m not 6’2” 275. I also wouldn’t try to knock around cops because I disagree with them.
Sorry man, meant for that to go to Whatley.
yawn wrote:
...I’m not 6’2” 275. I also wouldn’t try to knock around cops because I disagree with them.
Sorry man, meant for that to go to Whatley.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Did you ever say when you would have removed the knee?
I'll go with the police witnesses who said it shouldn't have been used.
You mean the guy that thought using a punch would be okay? The guy that initially said once handcuffed there was no threat? He seemed to have forgotten some key issues with policing.
So if you would not have used a knee restraint, then how would you have restrained the flopping Floyd until the ambulance arrived?
Armstronglivs wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Did you ever say when you would have removed the knee?
I'll go with the police witnesses who said it shouldn't have been used.
why do you want to lose this argument again?
we have already said that the witness showed the knee restraint was possible and could be used, and we agree it should be removed at some point. the point is when; and you cant answer that precisely, noone can. and lets not have the trite nonsense of 'before death' becasue, again - please give a time on the video, under the knee when death occurs.
Dude, think....ok?
The crowd was.....get off him...get off him....right? Video's being taken.....right?
Now think!!!!
Big guy has seen enought, he rushs in and tackles Chauvin, cat is quick. That is how it would have gone and it would have been.......I couldn't watch a man being killed. Yep.....hero!!!!
Dude, you appear to wander around in a fantasy world, snap out of it.
Fat, see how ya are little man, how about muscle, long time lifter.
George likely had a severe episode of Supraventricular tachycardia. He had all of the risk factors: enlarged heart, COVID, habitual use of stimulants (cocaine, methamphetamine, caffeine and nicotine) and a severely stressful event and a number of the symptoms (trouble breathing, complaint of chest, heart issues prior to being restrained). Combined with the ingestion of a horse dose of fentanyl, it was a fatal combination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqcUSCHd4NM
"revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."
comedyre1i3f 3 wrote:
George likely had a severe episode of Supraventricular tachycardia. He had all of the risk factors: enlarged heart, COVID, habitual use of stimulants (cocaine, methamphetamine, caffeine and nicotine) and a severely stressful event and a number of the symptoms (trouble breathing, complaint of chest, heart issues prior to being restrained). Combined with the ingestion of a horse dose of fentanyl, it was a fatal combination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqcUSCHd4NM"revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."
That must be why armstonglivs has been so quiet this afternoon!
comedyre1i3f 3 wrote:
George likely had a severe episode of Supraventricular tachycardia. He had all of the risk factors: enlarged heart, COVID, habitual use of stimulants (cocaine, methamphetamine, caffeine and nicotine) and a severely stressful event and a number of the symptoms (trouble breathing, complaint of chest, heart issues prior to being restrained). Combined with the ingestion of a horse dose of fentanyl, it was a fatal combination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqcUSCHd4NM"revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."
Is that enough of the terrible, lying witnesses to cause the looting and rioting to begin?
Whatley wrote:
Dude, think....ok?
The crowd was.....get off him...get off him....right? Video's being taken.....right?
Now think!!!!
Big guy has seen enought, he rushs in and tackles Chauvin, cat is quick. That is how it would have gone and it would have been.......I couldn't watch a man being killed. Yep.....hero!!!!
Dude, you appear to wander around in a fantasy world, snap out of it.
Fat, see how ya are little man, how about muscle, long time lifter.
You are gonna listen to a crowd? WTF?
Big guy rushes in and tackles Chauvin, assaulting a police officer, good luck with that one.
The dead beat drug addict does not die due to the assault on the cop, the guy would then not be a hero, but a felon. Wake up you clown.
I haven't seen this one until today-
The ER Doctor that treated George Floyd testified today. Keep in mind, he is not a medical examiner. The ER Doc said that "oxygen deficiency, sometimes called asphyxia, was 'one of the more likely' causes of Mr. Floyd’s death."
Under cross examination, the same doc admitted that "many different things — including taking fentanyl and methamphetamine — can cause a death that would still be considered asphyxiation."
Maybe this supports your pre-existing notions, maybe it don't. Most of the headlines and articles will fail to articulate what was actually said in the courtroom.
StevePrefonDead wrote:
The ER Doctor that treated George Floyd testified today. Keep in mind, he is not a medical examiner. The ER Doc said that "oxygen deficiency, sometimes called asphyxia, was 'one of the more likely' causes of Mr. Floyd’s death."
Under cross examination, the same doc admitted that "many different things — including taking fentanyl and methamphetamine — can cause a death that would still be considered asphyxiation."
Maybe this supports your pre-existing notions, maybe it don't. Most of the headlines and articles will fail to articulate what was actually said in the courtroom.
Exactly, watching the actual trial and then watching the media report on it quickly shows some interesting reporting!
Cher.....said she would have gotten invloved. A lot of people would have got physically involved, it was real obvious this cop was getting carried away.
Be cool with clown talk and why not register coward?
The defense lawyer Nelson is ineffectual. Maybe he went to the same law school as Armstrong. He’s going up against some biased witnesses, but he should be able to score more basic points than he has.
The open ended questions on cross are just ridiculous. You never give a witness a chance to explain anything on cross. The only answer you should permit is “yes” or “no.”
About the 6th or 7th thing DC is recorded as saying on one of the bodycam trasnscripits, very early on is;
Derek Chauvin: We'll hold him until EMS shows
Does that statement seem so unreasonable?
From the same transcript, the EMT guys never mentioned checking a pulse or vitals on the street to the cops (ie they didnt). they simply put gf in the vehicle and drove off. the transcript makes clear that Offcrs Keung, Lane and Chauvin had absolutely no idea - they were talking about his personal possessions and looking after the car. Very calm. went back to the shop to talk about the $20 bill. Definitely not the actions of murderers, afaik. Not even apparently puping adrenalin so much.
its the axon body 3 transcript;
Its annoying that it doesnt include timestamps for every line.
My God how obvious does this have to be, punk white cop in a black neighborhood, putting a knee on that world as he loved the power.
DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, has to go down and hard.
pupil3142 wrote:
About the 6th or 7th thing DC is recorded as saying on one of the bodycam trasnscripits, very early on is;
Derek Chauvin: We'll hold him until EMS shows
Does that statement seem so unreasonable?
From the same transcript, the EMT guys never mentioned checking a pulse or vitals on the street to the cops (ie they didnt). they simply put gf in the vehicle and drove off. the transcript makes clear that Offcrs Keung, Lane and Chauvin had absolutely no idea - they were talking about his personal possessions and looking after the car. Very calm. went back to the shop to talk about the $20 bill. Definitely not the actions of murderers, afaik. Not even apparently puping adrenalin so much.
its the axon body 3 transcript;
https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Exhibit407072020.pdfIts annoying that it doesnt include timestamps for every line.
What the media is saying compared to watching the full trial is something else. They are clearly watching another trial.
2nd degree manslaughter is the best they will get. Murder shouldn’t even be in the charges.
Whatley wrote:
My God how obvious does this have to be, punk white cop in a black neighborhood, putting a knee on that world as he loved the power.
DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, has to go down and hard.
You are a racist!!
That was stupid!
the new jim crow wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/apr/05/derek-chauderek-chauvin-trial-latest-news-george-floyd-death-live-updates
The police chief testified that pig Chauvin absolutely did NOT follow protocol.
These lowlife pigs turn on each other like rats. Great news for all......well except for poor Derrick. Lol