Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

Trying to profile a pathological running cheat. wrote:

Not sure how he scammed the race because, apart from the track suit photo, all the photos have him on course without a black T on or it tied around his waist, maybe this is where the accomplices came in, he jumps out puts the black T on to cover the number

They must have handed over his sunglasses too at sometime when he jumped out, because in some of those photos, I'm guessing early in the race, he ain't wearing any.

Unless not leaving the course but just pulling over to the side to grab sunglasses, drop off clothing, etc and then carry on your merry way to run an age group world class time is just par for the course for someone like Frank.

Does anybody know the locations of the photos of Frank in the LA 2018 marathon?

The reason I am asking is the position of the bib belt changes during the race. I don't mean side to side but rather over or under the race shirt. At the finish the belt is fully under the shirt. Also, it is fully under the shirt when he is photographed with the water in the background (3rd row right hand side). Ditto for the photos with the white building in the background (4th row LHS). However, when he is photographed with the white railings in the background the belt is above the shirt (5th row LHS) and also with the palm trees lining the street (5th row RHS).

Logic would infer that he started the race with the belt above the shirt but the relative motion caused the shirt to ride out from under the belt. However, if the sequence has the shirt moving under the belt then the only logical explanation is he took the belt off at some time during the race and then put it back on.

https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=04JH90&LastName=MEZA

It happens when you're constantly pulling a top on and off during the course of a marathon prior to/after riding in/on who knows what.

Francisco Meza wears some kind of belt with his pinned on bib? Yes, all four of the "banditos were at this LAM 18, prior to the ???? at Pasadena 19 HM. https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=04HS34&lastName=MEZA

Phillip Bland https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=04CR71&lastName=BLAND

Roderick Powell wrote:

Francisco Meza wears some kind of belt with his pinned on bib? Yes, all four of the "banditos were at this LAM 18, prior to the ???? at Pasadena 19 HM.

What's with the four question marks?

Sarah Tartof https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=04KP61&lastName=TARTOF

Roderick Powell wrote:

Yes, all four of the "banditos were at this LAM 18,

And your point is?

There was some concern raised at The Pasadena HM in Jan 19. Some thought FM's son and 2 others maybe ran without paying. I think ???? is better than to say they did not pay. Certainly FM paid, one would think. I would be actually most shocked to find out this woman Frank obviously cares for ... did not pay. I just noticed, though that Frank Meza reran the finish line with his bib on...an hour and change after he finished. (with Sarah, just like Pasadena when she crossed the finish line wearing his bib..odd stuff

The point is, some people "trip" on the banditos oddities. Was just an FYI. Especially when I noticed FM finishing with Sarah, just like at Pasadena HM 10 months later.

Roderick Powell wrote:

I just noticed, though that Frank Meza reran the finish line with his bib on...an hour and change after he finished. (with Sarah, just like Pasadena when she crossed the finish line wearing his bib..odd stuff

So 69 year old Frank, finishes a marathon in an age group world class time and an hour or so later he runs in with Sara Tartof full of zest and vigour lol.

This is just getting ridiculous.

Roderick Powell wrote:

There was some concern raised at The Pasadena HM in Jan 19. Some thought FM's son and 2 others maybe ran without paying. I think ???? is better than to say they did not pay. Certainly FM paid, one would think. I would be actually most shocked to find out this woman Frank obviously cares for ... did not pay. I just noticed, though that Frank Meza reran the finish line with his bib on...an hour and change after he finished. (with Sarah, just like Pasadena when she crossed the finish line wearing his bib..odd stuff

lol so why refer to them as banditos

For those on this thread who know them as such. I actually have reached the point of believing it could be the case at Pasadena. I would be surprised though. They would have to admit, considering what is seeming to be very possible with Frank, that we might think that. There are some on this thread who see the sadness of this. Others have an anger, that makes me wonder why so much vitriol.

This is just getting ridiculous. wrote:

So an OVERWEIGHT (for a world class age group marathon runner) 69 year old Frank, finishes a marathon in an age group world class time and an hour or so later he runs in with Sara Tartof full of zest and vigour lol.

This is just getting ridiculous.

Fixed.

Roderick Powell wrote:

For those on this thread who know them as such. I actually have reached the point of believing it could be the case at Pasadena. I would be surprised though. They would have to admit, considering what is seeming to be very possible with Frank, that we might think that. There are some on this thread who see the sadness of this. Others have an anger, that makes me wonder why so much vitriol.

lol so you start a thread/s with an obvious intention and then have a go at others

your veneer wore off a long time ago

It is obvious you are attempting to rile me up. You do so under different id's. You are just a troll, so carry on.

I am not sure how many people are in each corral. Perhaps 5,000 or more. So if Frank starts at the front of Corral B, he would have to literally pass 5,000 runners. Having once, at the OC Half-Marathon, through inattention, got to the start late, know what a pain it was to pass all the slower runners. I ran over 8:30. Next mile, less traffic ran 7:00. Exerted way to much energy. Suffered early and to the end. That Frank Meza chooses to do this on a regular basis is not possible. Especially running sub 20 5k's under these circumstances.

I am not sure. However, I have come to find out who Sara and Francisco (2 of the so-called bandits) are, and their relationship to Frank Meza. I'm going to give them the benefit of any doubt I had. Though, they obviously did run Pasadena, and their is no time result for either one. I also know that Phillip usually wears a Loyola shirt, so he probably coaches with Frank. My guess is they ran the event legit. Not as participants in the race, but not bandits. Any troll has a problem with my opinion... You are correct, you have a problem...you are a troll.

You're trying to befuddle the issue. No one has said anything about the bandits being involved. No one. You sir are the one who named them in this thread. No one else brings them up. It was simply asked if this non-registered runner was the same.

However, banditting is not allowed by most races. That's a fact. But just stop naming these people. No one cares who they are.