Fg57fhhhv65 wrote:
anyone else think it’s pretty funny that the caption for their last Instagram was ‘camp content soon’ and it’s been quiet 🦗
“Grateful for every single (sic) of these campers.”
I’ll bet…
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RunRagged wrote:
Kid from somewhere wrote:
Bullying photo shoot=bad
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
New gen apologized (for the photoshoot), deleted the apology, and is now pretending that nothing happened = this thread will continue to be be bumped until new gen addresses this thread throughly and publicly.
ROJO should invite Wisner and Ben Crawford to the podcast and conduct a house judiciary esque hearing.
Your choice to leave out important facts obscures what was really going on at the New Gen camp that many outsiders found so objectionable.
Bullying photo shoot=bad
That's putting it mildly.
The photos people objected to didn't depict just "bullying." They depicted, and appeared to condone, celebrate and make light of physical violence against girls - and girls alone.
One of the photos you describe as merely "bullying" showed a teenage girl having her head shoved inside a metal school locker by a tall, well-muscled post-pubescent male who looked to be a lot larger than the girl he was portrayed as gleefully assaulting
The other photos of so-called "bullying" that many found offensive showed the face of a teenage girl looking alarmed, distressed and panicking for air as her head was being shoved and held underwater - supposedly in a toilet bowl getting a "swirly." In that scenario, the people shown supposedly commiting the physical assault on the girl were two other girls.
Also, the problem isn't just that these photos were shot. It's that the scenarios of teenage girls being violently assaulted that the photos depict were apparently cooked up, scripted, staged and photographed under the supervision - and possibly at the direction and insistence - of the grown men who run New Gen.
Then to top it all off, New Gen published these photos that appear to encourage, celebrate and make light of physical violence against teenage girls on Instagram. Worse, these photos were presented as examples of the kinds of supposedly cutting-edge, cool, creative and inventive media that New Gen is teaching the wet-behind-the-ears high school-age kids attending its summer camp to make and post on social media as good ways to market themselves.
AFAICT, New Gen didn't publish any photos of staged scenes showing male teenagers being physically assaulted.
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
Again, that's putting it mildly.
The kid here is a girl, a female child, who was 15-years old at the time. The "camp counselor" who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult friend is a man in his 20s - a man who's one of big shots at New Gen that the 15-year-old girl obviously looked up to and saw as a role model.
The New Gen big shot's adult friend whom he told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize is also a grown man around the same age as the first guy and he's another big shot with celebrity status in the world of New Gen. The 15-year-old girl apparently looked up to the man she was told to sexualize and saw him as an admirable, even awe-inspiring, role model or idol too.
Moreover, the first man in his 20s who's a big shot at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult male friend did this under the guise of acting as a professional mentor to the girl. The grown man big cheese at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize another grown man in his 20s, his pal and another New Gen big cheese, did this under the pretense that he was offering the gullible 15-year-old girl a valuable tip and sage advice on how best to conduct a proper media interview with an adult male athlete in order to produce a profile of him worthy of publication in a magazine like New Gen's or another "grown up" platform.
Then there's the rest, such as the completely inappropriate questionnaire about sex that New Gen staff apparently told this girl and other underage kids in NG's charge, or under its sway, to take.
This is a great summary. Telling a child to sexualize one’s adult friend is seriously predatory behavior and I wish more people in the running world would speak out about this
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RunRagged wrote:
Kid from somewhere wrote:
Bullying photo shoot=bad
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
New gen apologized (for the photoshoot), deleted the apology, and is now pretending that nothing happened = this thread will continue to be be bumped until new gen addresses this thread throughly and publicly.
ROJO should invite Wisner and Ben Crawford to the podcast and conduct a house judiciary esque hearing.
Your choice to leave out important facts obscures what was really going on at the New Gen camp that many outsiders found so objectionable.
Bullying photo shoot=bad
That's putting it mildly.
The photos people objected to didn't depict just "bullying." They depicted, and appeared to condone, celebrate and make light of physical violence against girls - and girls alone.
One of the photos you describe as merely "bullying" showed a teenage girl having her head shoved inside a metal school locker by a tall, well-muscled post-pubescent male who looked to be a lot larger than the girl he was portrayed as gleefully assaulting
The other photos of so-called "bullying" that many found offensive showed the face of a teenage girl looking alarmed, distressed and panicking for air as her head was being shoved and held underwater - supposedly in a toilet bowl getting a "swirly." In that scenario, the people shown supposedly commiting the physical assault on the girl were two other girls.
Also, the problem isn't just that these photos were shot. It's that the scenarios of teenage girls being violently assaulted that the photos depict were apparently cooked up, scripted, staged and photographed under the supervision - and possibly at the direction and insistence - of the grown men who run New Gen.
Then to top it all off, New Gen published these photos that appear to encourage, celebrate and make light of physical violence against teenage girls on Instagram. Worse, these photos were presented as examples of the kinds of supposedly cutting-edge, cool, creative and inventive media that New Gen is teaching the wet-behind-the-ears high school-age kids attending its summer camp to make and post on social media as good ways to market themselves.
AFAICT, New Gen didn't publish any photos of staged scenes showing male teenagers being physically assaulted.
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
Again, that's putting it mildly.
The kid here is a girl, a female child, who was 15-years old at the time. The "camp counselor" who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult friend is a man in his 20s - a man who's one of big shots at New Gen that the 15-year-old girl obviously looked up to and saw as a role model.
The New Gen big shot's adult friend whom he told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize is also a grown man around the same age as the first guy and he's another big shot with celebrity status in the world of New Gen. The 15-year-old girl apparently looked up to the man she was told to sexualize and saw him as an admirable, even awe-inspiring, role model or idol too.
Moreover, the first man in his 20s who's a big shot at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult male friend did this under the guise of acting as a professional mentor to the girl. The grown man big cheese at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize another grown man in his 20s, his pal and another New Gen big cheese, did this under the pretense that he was offering the gullible 15-year-old girl a valuable tip and sage advice on how best to conduct a proper media interview with an adult male athlete in order to produce a profile of him worthy of publication in a magazine like New Gen's or another "grown up" platform.
Then there's the rest, such as the completely inappropriate questionnaire about sex that New Gen staff apparently told this girl and other underage kids in NG's charge, or under its sway, to take.
I agree with you that the New Gen adults seem to lack boundaries with the teens in a way that is certainly cause for concern. However, I think if we're going to be discussing their transgressions here, we should keep our facts straight. The girl that Wisner told to sexualize his friend for a blog post was 17 at the time. The 15 year old was a different girl who wrote a different blog post, which included the Rice Purity Test incident.
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i've lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
RunRagged wrote:
Your choice to leave out important facts obscures what was really going on at the New Gen camp that many outsiders found so objectionable.
Bullying photo shoot=bad
That's putting it mildly.
The photos people objected to didn't depict just "bullying." They depicted, and appeared to condone, celebrate and make light of physical violence against girls - and girls alone.
One of the photos you describe as merely "bullying" showed a teenage girl having her head shoved inside a metal school locker by a tall, well-muscled post-pubescent male who looked to be a lot larger than the girl he was portrayed as gleefully assaulting
The other photos of so-called "bullying" that many found offensive showed the face of a teenage girl looking alarmed, distressed and panicking for air as her head was being shoved and held underwater - supposedly in a toilet bowl getting a "swirly." In that scenario, the people shown supposedly commiting the physical assault on the girl were two other girls.
Also, the problem isn't just that these photos were shot. It's that the scenarios of teenage girls being violently assaulted that the photos depict were apparently cooked up, scripted, staged and photographed under the supervision - and possibly at the direction and insistence - of the grown men who run New Gen.
Then to top it all off, New Gen published these photos that appear to encourage, celebrate and make light of physical violence against teenage girls on Instagram. Worse, these photos were presented as examples of the kinds of supposedly cutting-edge, cool, creative and inventive media that New Gen is teaching the wet-behind-the-ears high school-age kids attending its summer camp to make and post on social media as good ways to market themselves.
AFAICT, New Gen didn't publish any photos of staged scenes showing male teenagers being physically assaulted.
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
Again, that's putting it mildly.
The kid here is a girl, a female child, who was 15-years old at the time. The "camp counselor" who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult friend is a man in his 20s - a man who's one of big shots at New Gen that the 15-year-old girl obviously looked up to and saw as a role model.
The New Gen big shot's adult friend whom he told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize is also a grown man around the same age as the first guy and he's another big shot with celebrity status in the world of New Gen. The 15-year-old girl apparently looked up to the man she was told to sexualize and saw him as an admirable, even awe-inspiring, role model or idol too.
Moreover, the first man in his 20s who's a big shot at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult male friend did this under the guise of acting as a professional mentor to the girl. The grown man big cheese at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize another grown man in his 20s, his pal and another New Gen big cheese, did this under the pretense that he was offering the gullible 15-year-old girl a valuable tip and sage advice on how best to conduct a proper media interview with an adult male athlete in order to produce a profile of him worthy of publication in a magazine like New Gen's or another "grown up" platform.
Then there's the rest, such as the completely inappropriate questionnaire about sex that New Gen staff apparently told this girl and other underage kids in NG's charge, or under its sway, to take.
I agree with you that the New Gen adults seem to lack boundaries with the teens in a way that is certainly cause for concern. However, I think if we're going to be discussing their transgressions here, we should keep our facts straight. The girl that Wisner told to sexualize his friend for a blog post was 17 at the time. The 15 year old was a different girl who wrote a different blog post, which included the Rice Purity Test incident.
I've also lurked through these pages, and I think the bullying photos were weird, and had nothing to do with track and field, but were by far the least troublesome of their behavior. The gay son or thot (aka $lutty) daughter question was really bad. I actually liked Ben Crawford asking runners if they'd rather be hot or fast, or if they'd rather poop themselves or pee during a race. Those questions were kind of funny and in line with their vision of using media to humanize the athletes that they are covering, but I have no idea what he was thinking by asking "gay son or thot daughter" especially in this day and age.
Their other troublesome behavior included the video of Ben Crawford bragging about getting suspended from high school for ranking the girls in his class's hotness, the taking the "rice purity test" with high schoolers, their encouragement of a high school girl to sexualize his adult friend, the casually joking about taking edibles, and the allegations of providing alcohol to minors at NXN. Those actions are far more disturbing than the the weird photo shoot. If they hadn't stupidly posted the photos of the girl being shoved in a locker, or the other girl's head being shoved down a toilet, no one would have brought up their other far more disturbing behaviors.
Having said that, the New Gen crew are also barely out of college, and I know that I was immature at that age as well. They need to take accountability for their behavior, and they are clearly not mature enough to be in charge of a camp for high schoolers.
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i\'ve lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
I agree with you that the New Gen adults seem to lack boundaries with the teens in a way that is certainly cause for concern. However, I think if we're going to be discussing their transgressions here, we should keep our facts straight. The girl that Wisner told to sexualize his friend for a blog post was 17 at the time. The 15 year old was a different girl who wrote a different blog post, which included the Rice Purity Test incident.
That’s all???
dang…my bad, all forgiven then!!
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Whispy wrote:
i\'ve lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
I agree with you that the New Gen adults seem to lack boundaries with the teens in a way that is certainly cause for concern. However, I think if we're going to be discussing their transgressions here, we should keep our facts straight. The girl that Wisner told to sexualize his friend for a blog post was 17 at the time. The 15 year old was a different girl who wrote a different blog post, which included the Rice Purity Test incident.
That’s all???
dang…my bad, all forgiven then!!
I'm not at all saying that any of that is okay, or that it was the only bad thing they did. Come on. I'm just trying to keep basic facts straight, because it's easier to discredit the concerns and allegations being compiled here if they contain inaccuracies. If anything, it looks worse for New Gen to note that these were two separate instances involving separate teens and counselors (the 17 y/o and Wisner and the 15 y/o and Christman + Jackson) rather than it being confined to just one NG counselor.
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i've lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
I agree with you that the New Gen adults seem to lack boundaries with the teens in a way that is certainly cause for concern. However, I think if we're going to be discussing their transgressions here, we should keep our facts straight. The girl that Wisner told to sexualize his friend for a blog post was 17 at the time. The 15 year old was a different girl who wrote a different blog post, which included the Rice Purity Test incident.
I stand corrected for confusing and conflating the two girls. Apologies.
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i've lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
Whispy wrote:
That’s all???
dang…my bad, all forgiven then!!
I'm not at all saying that any of that is okay, or that it was the only bad thing they did. Come on. I'm just trying to keep basic facts straight, because it's easier to discredit the concerns and allegations being compiled here if they contain inaccuracies. If anything, it looks worse for New Gen to note that these were two separate instances involving separate teens and counselors (the 17 y/o and Wisner and the 15 y/o and Christman + Jackson) rather than it being confined to just one NG counselor.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted for this/people are giving you crap. I had the same thought when I read the summary, and totally agree with the highlighted above. Besides that error the summary was good.
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runnereunner22 wrote:
Update, Des and Kara talk about the new gen controversy on their podcast episode that aired yesterday
Around they start talking about 9 mins and 30 seconds in
Kara said that she did some research and saw that New Gen's goal is to bring fresh new media to the sport. But she feels that they miss on that, and that New Gen is kinda just doing what's always been done, which is create media that depicts that "the men are cool, and women were kinda sexualized." It's been that way forever, "the men are the tough guys out running and the women are posing more provocatively" in their content
Both Des and Kara were kind and understanding to the high schoolers involved, saying that they did stuff when they were younger and they were happy social media wasn't around when they were young. And Des brought up a good point that back then you had a waiting period waiting for your disposable camera film to get developed, and it allowed you to think and process and be removed from the situation you originally took a photo of before deciding if you were then going to show this photo to their friends. And kids don't get that anymore with how instant social media is, and once it's online it's online forever, even after it's "deleted"
Both Kara and Des agree that "fresh blood" is good for the sport. And that they do think mistakes were made with new gen that shouldn't be made. And are curios if New Gen is going to try and bounce back.
And that was basically it, they switched to a different topic after like 8 minutes of talking about it
I don't think they know anything about this thread (which I don't blame them for not checking letsrun, cause some people post horrific uncalled things about them and other women in the sport constantly)
But they seemed way to chill for how serious the topic was (not saying that they were acting careless, but I mean it as in them not knowing how much deeper and darker the story actually went), and because the only thing they mentioned was the bullying photoshoot and that was it. So I think that's all they think happened, I don't think they know about all of the grooming allegations, and knowing them I think that they would have a much hotter take and some anger.
I would think they'd check LRC but not say anything about it. Unfortunately this place demeans women at times.
I wish they had called Ben Crawford out more, but they did a good job getting into the situation and summing it up for those who had never heard of this.
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RunRagged wrote:
Kid from somewhere wrote:
Bullying photo shoot=bad
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
New gen apologized (for the photoshoot), deleted the apology, and is now pretending that nothing happened = this thread will continue to be be bumped until new gen addresses this thread throughly and publicly.
ROJO should invite Wisner and Ben Crawford to the podcast and conduct a house judiciary esque hearing.
Your choice to leave out important facts obscures what was really going on at the New Gen camp that many outsiders found so objectionable.
Bullying photo shoot=bad
That's putting it mildly.
The photos people objected to didn't depict just "bullying." They depicted, and appeared to condone, celebrate and make light of physical violence against girls - and girls alone.
One of the photos you describe as merely "bullying" showed a teenage girl having her head shoved inside a metal school locker by a tall, well-muscled post-pubescent male who looked to be a lot larger than the girl he was portrayed as gleefully assaulting
The other photos of so-called "bullying" that many found offensive showed the face of a teenage girl looking alarmed, distressed and panicking for air as her head was being shoved and held underwater - supposedly in a toilet bowl getting a "swirly." In that scenario, the people shown supposedly commiting the physical assault on the girl were two other girls.
Also, the problem isn't just that these photos were shot. It's that the scenarios of teenage girls being violently assaulted that the photos depict were apparently cooked up, scripted, staged and photographed under the supervision - and possibly at the direction and insistence - of the grown men who run New Gen.
Then to top it all off, New Gen published these photos that appear to encourage, celebrate and make light of physical violence against teenage girls on Instagram. Worse, these photos were presented as examples of the kinds of supposedly cutting-edge, cool, creative and inventive media that New Gen is teaching the wet-behind-the-ears high school-age kids attending its summer camp to make and post on social media as good ways to market themselves.
AFAICT, New Gen didn't publish any photos of staged scenes showing male teenagers being physically assaulted.
A counsler told a kid to sexualize one of his adult friends, among other conduct that would fairly be argued as "grooming" a minor= really bad
Again, that's putting it mildly.
The kid here is a girl, a female child, who was 15-years old at the time. The "camp counselor" who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult friend is a man in his 20s - a man who's one of big shots at New Gen that the 15-year-old girl obviously looked up to and saw as a role model.
The New Gen big shot's adult friend whom he told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize is also a grown man around the same age as the first guy and he's another big shot with celebrity status in the world of New Gen. The 15-year-old girl apparently looked up to the man she was told to sexualize and saw him as an admirable, even awe-inspiring, role model or idol too.
Moreover, the first man in his 20s who's a big shot at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize his adult male friend did this under the guise of acting as a professional mentor to the girl. The grown man big cheese at New Gen who told the 15-year-old girl to sexualize another grown man in his 20s, his pal and another New Gen big cheese, did this under the pretense that he was offering the gullible 15-year-old girl a valuable tip and sage advice on how best to conduct a proper media interview with an adult male athlete in order to produce a profile of him worthy of publication in a magazine like New Gen's or another "grown up" platform.
Then there's the rest, such as the completely inappropriate questionnaire about sex that New Gen staff apparently told this girl and other underage kids in NG's charge, or under its sway, to take.
I am glad they addressed some of this, but I wonder if NewGen or whatever put pressure on them not to get into the other stuff (like Crawford's bragging video about his exploits in HS).
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correct wrote:
i've lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
I'm not at all saying that any of that is okay, or that it was the only bad thing they did. Come on. I'm just trying to keep basic facts straight, because it's easier to discredit the concerns and allegations being compiled here if they contain inaccuracies. If anything, it looks worse for New Gen to note that these were two separate instances involving separate teens and counselors (the 17 y/o and Wisner and the 15 y/o and Christman + Jackson) rather than it being confined to just one NG counselor.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted for this/people are giving you crap. I had the same thought when I read the summary, and totally agree with the highlighted above. Besides that error the summary was good.
I agree with this. I am grateful to the other poster for pointing out the factual error I made at the end of my post where I mixed up and conflated two different teenage girls, one age 15 and the other age 17, whom grown men in their 20s at the helm of New Gen were creepy, disrespectfual and inappropriately sexual towards/with.
Both the 15-year-old girl and the 17-year-old girl were subjected to creepy, blatantly sexist, disrespectful, explotative behavior by grown men in positions of power, authority and high status at New Gen who appear to be cocksure misogynists with over-inflated senses of self-importance who enjoy showing total disregard for proper sex and age boundaries and think that paying no heed to basic standards of professional decorum is a good way to make themselves appear impressively edgy and cool. But - as I should have made crystal clear in my post - the grown men at New Gen were creepy and sexually inappropriate with these two different minor-age teenage girls, one 15 and the other 17, in different ways in separate instances that took place on different occasions in different settings.
Although the mixup I made resulted in a relatively minor error (or minors error?) in the account I posted, it's nonethelless true that this one inaccuracy in my writeup will be used to dscredit me as untrustworthy and to discount the broader points I was making.
On top of that, the error I made will 'll be used to change the topic of convo from what's wrong with New Gen's skeevy behaviors to what's wrong with how I described them.
So as my way of saying mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, I hereby publicly apologize to the grown men in their 20s who, to borrow the phrase that Michael Lewis made famous, are the "big swinging dxcks" in charge at New Gen for my mistake in making it appear that the inappropriate, creepy and blatantly sexist grooming type behavior of theirs described at the end of my earlie post was directed at the 15 year-old girl whose mistreatment by one of the grown men who's a big swinging dxck at New Gen I had previously discussed. I should have made it abundantly clear that the inappropriate, creepy and balatantly sexist grooming-type behaviors towards teenage girls that I was describing were dished out by different grown men in positions of power and authority at New Gen in separate, unrelated instances to two different teenage girls - one 15, one 17.
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Listened to the Des and Kara podcast and they brought up some good points. In particular I liked how they mentioned "sexualizing women and showing the men doing all the hard running" wasn't really a novel idea and not exactly progressive either. New Gen isn't a "new way of media" as much as it's "new guys doing same media."
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Fg57fhhhv65 wrote:
anyone else think it’s pretty funny that the caption for their last Instagram was ‘camp content soon’ and it’s been quiet 🦗
Well they did share content, which prompted this thread, but it was removed. There was also a statement they posted that basically just gaslit the entire situation, making up various excuses. That was also removed.
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Isn’t New Gen supposed to be at Budapest, trying to change the sport? I guess Ben Crawford doesn’t truly care about the sport.
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north macedonia wrote:
i've lurked through all 48 pages wrote:
I agree with you that the New Gen adults seem to lack boundaries with the teens in a way that is certainly cause for concern. However, I think if we're going to be discussing their transgressions here, we should keep our facts straight. The girl that Wisner told to sexualize his friend for a blog post was 17 at the time. The 15 year old was a different girl who wrote a different blog post, which included the Rice Purity Test incident.
I've also lurked through these pages, and I think the bullying photos were weird, and had nothing to do with track and field, but were by far the least troublesome of their behavior. The gay son or thot (aka $lutty) daughter question was really bad. I actually liked Ben Crawford asking runners if they'd rather be hot or fast, or if they'd rather poop themselves or pee during a race. Those questions were kind of funny and in line with their vision of using media to humanize the athletes that they are covering, but I have no idea what he was thinking by asking "gay son or thot daughter" especially in this day and age.
Their other troublesome behavior included the video of Ben Crawford bragging about getting suspended from high school for ranking the girls in his class's hotness, the taking the "rice purity test" with high schoolers, their encouragement of a high school girl to sexualize his adult friend, the casually joking about taking edibles, and the allegations of providing alcohol to minors at NXN. Those actions are far more disturbing than the the weird photo shoot. If they hadn't stupidly posted the photos of the girl being shoved in a locker, or the other girl's head being shoved down a toilet, no one would have brought up their other far more disturbing behaviors.
Having said that, the New Gen crew are also barely out of college, and I know that I was immature at that age as well. They need to take accountability for their behavior, and they are clearly not mature enough to be in charge of a camp for high schoolers.
I agree with everything here except for that last part that seemingly excuses their behavior because of their immaturity? Are you implying you would do this stuff too if given the opportunity at that age? I sure hope not.
Let's not pretend like they're children here, they're grown adults in their mid 20's. I coached high school running for a number of years starting while I was still in college and it was actually VERY easy to not groom the high school kids or engage in inappropriate behavior if you had even a semblance of morality or professionalism. Let's call a spade a spade, they're creeps and their actions are totally inexcusable. They're old enough to know better.
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Connor Bruns and Simeon Birnbaum claim that New Gen camp was "the highlight of their summer" (17:55 mark). Haters go home DEVASTATED!!!!!
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SUBSCRIBE2PEWDIEPIE wrote:
Connor Bruns and Simeon Birnbaum claim that New Gen camp was "the highlight of their summer" (17:55 mark). Haters go home DEVASTATED!!!!!
Well that settles it then I suppose 🙄
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SUBSCRIBE2PEWDIEPIE wrote:
Connor Bruns and Simeon Birnbaum claim that New Gen camp was "the highlight of their summer" (17:55 mark). Haters go home DEVASTATED!!!!!
The running effect fu*king SUCKS!!!
so sick of that sh1t
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That running effect kid is just another brown-nosing running groupie. He's ben crawford 2.0
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SUBSCRIBE2PEWDIEPIE wrote:
Connor Bruns and Simeon Birnbaum claim that New Gen camp was "the highlight of their summer" (17:55 mark). Haters go home DEVASTATED!!!!!
They're both 18-year-old blokes. They've never been on the receiving end of any misogynistic bullying, nor will they ever be.
Besides, New Gen didn't publish photos in which any of the guys attending camp had to play the victim in scenes of staged interpersonal violence. No male campers were shown having their heads slammed and stuffed into a metal school locker, or shoved into a toilet bowl and held down underwater. New Gen made a point of publishing pictures from photo shoots where only girls attending the camp were portrayed as victims of physical violence for laffs.
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