Robert Young fakes run across America

Coach Kev is good people. Y'all can stop by my IHOP any time. I'll even clean the water glasses with a clean towel instead of wiping them clean with my fingers.

xoxo

Blanch

I have finally been banned by Rob. I guess asking where his PBs were set, pointing out his 1:12 at 8000ft with links and asking about his cycling career were too inconvenient.One bit to add to the post below about Biathle. Not only was he last in his race but I spoke to somebody at British Pentathlon who saud the most likely reason that they only sent 4 juniors in 2003 rather than the full compliment of 6 is that there were only 4 wanting to go.That means Rob didn't have to beat anybody to qualify and didn't beat anybody at the champs. No wonder he deleted my post pointing this out.

Racergirl wrote:

I'm starting to get the hang of this "find stuff on the internet" thing. Last night Rob posted copied of four letters regarding his early athletics results. After much searching, I have tracked down the cached results from his 2003 biathle World Championship in Monaco:

http://web.archive.org/web/20031204234823/http://www.biathle.com/index.php?area=52

Last in his age category (Juniors Men - 22/22 finishers, 24 listed entrants)

Could someone please do the honours and preserve this as needed for the Google doc?

Racergirl wrote:

I'm starting to get the hang of this "find stuff on the internet" thing. Last night Rob posted copied of four letters regarding his early athletics results. After much searching, I have tracked down the cached results from his 2003 biathle World Championship in Monaco:

http://web.archive.org/web/20031204234823/http://www.biathle.com/index.php?area=52

Last in his age category (Juniors Men - 22/22 finishers, 24 listed entrants)

Could someone please do the honours and preserve this as needed for the Google doc?

Done.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a institution which had the facilities and expertise to work with Mr Young and do some research into the physical and psychological effects of endurance running, maybe support him in some well documented record attempts, and wouldn't it be great if it was local to him.

Oh, wait a second. Kingston University, with it's Human Performance Laboratory is on his doorstep. He'd almost have to run past it on his way to Richmond Park for his 3am marathons (by the way, where did he run in November and February when the park is closed to pedestrians until 8am?).

Earlier in the year they hosted and supported Suzy Chan to set a new women's world record for greatest distance run on a treadmill in 12 hours (68.54 miles), streaming the whole thing on YouTube.

http://www.kingston.ac.uk/news/article/1646/26-apr-2016-endurance-runner-susie-chan-enters-guinness-world-records-books-after-verification-of-12hour-treadmill-distance

Rob, I'm sure they'd love to see you!

Kev, thanks for posting. I wouldn't have blamed you if you had just gone silent on the matter. I know some people here got riled up when it seemed you turned a blind eye to reasoned arguments. But you keeping blind faith in a friend doesn't excuse those LRCers from personal attacks. I personally can't see why anyone would get so emotionally invested in this to the point they attacking strangers.

richW wrote:

London Marathon results for 2015 & 2016

http://results-2015.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2015/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000016BBF2&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS&search%5Bname%5D=young&search%5Bfirstname%5D=rob&search%5Bsex%5D=%25&search%5Bnation%5D=%25&search_sort=name&search_event=MAShttp://results-2016.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2016/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC8300001A4478&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS&search%5Bstart_no%5D=53335&search%5Bsex%5D=%25&search%5Bnation%5D=%25&search_sort=name&search_event=MAS

The links don't work for me.

CoachKev, I admire your ability to not only change your belief after taking such a strong public stand, but also your courage in admitting you were wrong.

I have great respect for you, as I myself am not that big of a man. There's no way I could admit I was wrong in assessing if someone had cheated or not.

Also, please don't tell me the story about the sausage was a lie. It was a very motivational story. Now, every time I go running, halfway through I start fantasizing about the sausage awaiting me at home. I negative split every time.

Apology not accepted until it includes a full mea culpa for that song.

Kidding.....I give Kev respect for going public with this. Welcome to the fold my friend. It is way more fun on this side.

A reminder on the 1:12 half marathon, don't let Rob try to tell you it was all downhill. The significant uphill for the first 6mi negates the benefit of the net downhill.

- He started at 8570ft elevation

- First 6 miles in 36:25 (6:04 pace), climbing 850ft

- Next 7.1 miles in 36:50 (5:11 pace), dropping 1600ft

- The 13.1 split was 1:13:15 (5:36 pace), with a avg elev of 8700ft and net elev change of -750ft.

Using the runworks calculator.

http://www.runworks.com/calculator.html

Predicted finish time for a flat course = 1:13:14.5

Predicted finish time for a flat sea level course = 1:08:26

Note: After 13.1 he continued a bit further to 13.75mi and took a 15min break. The 1:12 strava best effort is the split from 0.65 to 13.75 in 1:12:50, but it has a larger net elev drop of -920ft

- He started at 8570ft elevation

- First 6 miles in 36:25 (6:04 pace), climbing 850ft

if you think that portion is damning. Just imagine the deleted portions that he felt had to be removed.

Dustin had one job. Drive the RV at a believable running pace while Rob slept in back. One job!

CoachKev, you have earned great respect for this honest admission and confession. All the best to you and your running.

CoachKev, I'll also say this. You are the rare exception for doing the right and honest thing when realizing you were wrong. There have been many "cheater threads" on letsrun through the years, even long before Mike Rossi and Kip Litton. I haven't followed all of those, but I have read many of them. I can't remember anyone else in all those threads who ever honestly and candidly admitted that they were wrong. You're the rare exception. You're an honor to your country for doing so here publicly. Again, all the best to you and your running.

curiously interested wrote:

CoachKev, I'll also say this. You are the rare exception for doing the right and honest thing when realizing you were wrong. There have been many "cheater threads" on letsrun through the years, even long before Mike Rossi and Kip Litton. I haven't followed all of those, but I have read many of them. I can't remember anyone else in all those threads who ever honestly and candidly admitted that they were wrong. You're the rare exception. You're an honor to your country for doing so here publicly. Again, all the best to you and your running.

I suggest that you contact the monarchy and have the Queen grant coach Kev knighthood for his Valor.

Rob Scam monitor wrote:

curiously interested wrote:

CoachKev, I'll also say this. You are the rare exception for doing the right and honest thing when realizing you were wrong. There have been many "cheater threads" on letsrun through the years, even long before Mike Rossi and Kip Litton. I haven't followed all of those, but I have read many of them. I can't remember anyone else in all those threads who ever honestly and candidly admitted that they were wrong. You're the rare exception. You're an honor to your country for doing so here publicly. Again, all the best to you and your running.

I suggest that you contact the monarchy and have the Queen grant coach Kev knighthood for his Valor.

I think she's a bit busy today.

I see the troll has struck again. That isn't me--check the spelling: rekrunner does not equal rekrunnner.Like I've said before, I don't care about Rob Young.

rekrunnner wrote:

CoachKev, I admire your ability to not only change your belief after taking such a strong public stand, but also your courage in admitting you were wrong.

I have great respect for you, as I myself am not that big of a man. There's no way I could admit I was wrong in assessing if someone had cheated or not.

Also, please don't tell me the story about the sausage was a lie. It was a very motivational story. Now, every time I go running, halfway through I start fantasizing about the sausage awaiting me at home. I negative split every time.

I don't know if this has been done before, if it has I missed it. Using the total time and total distance from here: http://raceacrossusa.org/results/ I calculated Rob's average pace for his 2015 "Race" Across USA. He averaged a whooping 9:20 per mile! For someone claiming a PB of 2:40 for the marathon, 9:20 average pace for 6 weekly runs totaling 156 miles, one word, pathetic!

I believe that this is RY, coming into the finish at a one off parkrun

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_finish19.htm

Morden Hall parkrun - 6 June 2009

00:21:25

more pics, looks like he's wearing cycling bib-shorts (?), so still cycling a lot (?)

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_start05.htm

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_start08.htm

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_start09.htm

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_loop_202.htm

richW wrote:

I believe that this is RY, coming into the finish at a one off parkrun

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_finish19.htm

Morden Hall parkrun - 6 June 2009

00:21:25

more pics, looks like he's wearing cycling bib-shorts (?), so still cycling a lot (?)

http://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_start05.htmhttp://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_start08.htmhttp://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_start09.htmhttp://theracephotographer.com/ParkrunMordenHall/mh_parkrun_loop_202.htm

I Thought Rob just picked up running a few years ago.... (rolled out of bed with an epiphany and ran 3 marathons in a day... or some such thing)

Holy sausage rolls!