You might be right. It just seemed those wide angle photos were snapshots from a video feed. They seem to be taken every 1-3 seconds or so. No one's seen the video for this section so it may not have be. The preview photos where he's walking 90 degrees to the course are very low resolution though.
Geez...in that video of the final straight at the LA marathon he lost ~20 secs to the runners around him just a little over a couple of minutes. This is a sad case.
LAM sneak back onto course or potta potty? wrote:
This is for doubler. The LA marathon photos may include video of FM cutting into the course. You would need the video for runner #22397.
Re your handle, I think it was established pages ago that there was no toilets in the area and it was outside Hooters, that is if it was him sneaking back on to the course, which appears highly likely, but a high res copy of that photo would be needed to fully establish it.
Re your handle... wrote:
LAM sneak back onto course or potta potty? wrote:
This is for doubler. The LA marathon photos may include video of FM cutting into the course. You would need the video for runner #22397.
Re your handle, I think it was established pages ago that there was no toilets in the area and it was outside Hooters, that is if it was him sneaking back on to the course, which appears highly likely, but a high res copy of that photo would be needed to fully establish it.
This one:
https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/singlephoto/en/usd/3017/3017_115397Yes, I have the photo. Video of that area is not included in the video package.
But, I don’t think video is really necessary.
I think he's hamming it up a bit and doing it to be funny/dramatic, like "Ta Daa! I just destroyed my age group by an hour!"
doubler wrote:
But, I don’t think video is really necessary.
It's funny, sometimes the lack of something outweighs having something, couple of examples, but plenty more where Frank's concerned:
it's only a matter of time wrote:
b/t/w, hitting the 10k mat, and missing the photographer before (and after) the 10k mat, was the case in this year's la marathon. in photo 3017_046277 fm is seen crossing the 10k mat with runner 16809 (and echo park is in the background).
https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photo/en/usd/3017/1151/3017_046277#3017_046277but on page 11727 (and, plus/minus 10 pages) we see 16809 but no frank. see echo park in the background.
https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photobrowser/en/USD/3017#All/Run/11727same story for after the 10k mat - see page 47903 (plus/minus 10 pages), 16809 is seen with echo park in the background, but no fm. how could this be?
https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photobrowser/en/USD/3017#All/Run/47903come clean fm, b/c it's only a matter of time before this all comes out in a much larger media outlet. what would david torrence (aka, the let's run legend, big wave dave) think of this? you're a fraud.
Golgi Body wrote:
Seriously! Roderick, your shtick is getting old. I'm almost positive there is more to your starting this thread than you are willing to let on. But for starters, you have a weird need for "proof", as if the case isn't iron-clad enough yet even though you seem to have examined all the evidence microscopically. Who cares about the exact details of how he did it? I'm afraid it will turn out to be something rather dull and predictable, involving alternate means of transportation and possibly accomplices, just like everyone has been saying all along.
I don't understand your continued musings about your need for a "role model". Jesus, man, aren't you like 60-plus yourself? You sound like a teenager, desperate to find a cool role model, like maybe that dude Todd who drives the Camaro, smokes, cursed out the principal and got suspended, and gets loads of chicks. Except, like, the aging male runner-nerd version of that.
You have mentioned a couple of things I was finding an issue.
In the Litton thread where there were people who claimed that until we knew the make, model and engine capacity of the car he was using to cut the course, we couldn't prove anything and this seems to be a Rod thing too.
The "role model" thing struck me as almost autistic in a 60 year old.
doubler wrote:
Yes, I have the photo. Video of that area is not included in the video package.
But, I don’t think video is really necessary.
Come December 2019, this picture may win LRC's photo of the year (especially if a high resolution photo can be blown up). I just noticed that it seems that at the point the photo is taken, the Greek Guy and the Woman in Black have not yet passed the reentry point.
I think he has some sort of lanyard around his neck--the kind some people wear with a work ID badge. I'm not sure why someone would be wearing that during a marathon. What strikes me is the bib belt appears to be uncomfortably tight on him. It doesn't look like he'd be able to take a deep breath with it that tight.
Teh futuris wrote:
Those 2014 CIM pictures are of interest -
1) Is he wearing a bikini top underneath his shirt? What is he wearing under? Is that why he wears his number on a belt (other than to trade with other runners) so that he can change tops quickly and go incognito?
2) What is coming out at the bottom of his shirt? Part of his disguise underneath? It's not a towel. What is it?
3) The shoes are not those of a sub-3hr marathoner. What are they? Black and Red c9 from Target?
Hopefully Derek will do a story on this. This thread is hard to follow.
There was a video, but I looked at it at the time specified and couldn't even tell which guy was him if that was even the right spot. There's a reference to photos, but I'm supposed to go to page 11-thousand something and go through.
Someone who is not as lazy as I am needs to put the photos on imgur or something and link them and put the video on youtube or something. Would take 15 minutes to do all that once you had the video and photos on your screen.
The video shows him entering the screen carrying something, most likely a jacket, dashing off to his left to drop it, and then running to the bottom of the screen very slowly. He is getting passed the entire time, and you can see that he's running a lot slower than everyone around him.
video synopsis wrote:
The video shows him entering the screen carrying something, most likely a jacket, dashing off to his left to drop it, and then running to the bottom of the screen very slowly. He is getting passed the entire time, and you can see that he's running a lot slower than everyone around him.
I understand the confusion. The video where Meza runs to his left (viewer's right) and hands something to somebody is the local TV station feed from the 2018 race. (I have not seen any video posted from the 2019 race but some posts suggest it exists.)
Took me 15 seconds to google this just now hopefully works https://www.facebook.com/ktla5/videos/2018-la-marathon-finish-line-cam/10156492124559614/
Frank Meza comes onto the top of the screen at 43:27
Looks like it will no longer go to full screen..and my cell phone it will not load, stating it may have been removed or the privacy settings changed.....oh well, we have it already..
It seems this video is available on any search engine. On my cell phone I "liked" it on the ktla facebook page...and can watch it..
I think everyone knows about that video.
Someone else was saying that there was possibly video of him at mile 11.5 of the 2019 LA Marathon where he is alleged to have been seen cutting onto the course near the Greek runner.
There is no such video. The only video in the official videos is from a couple timing mats.
The only thing that was particularly interesting from the 2019 video of Frank was when he almost got run down by a hand cycle participant.
Have you noticed from the 2018 LAM video, that FM appears to have a really short choppy stride with a pretty high cadence. I wonder how difficult it would be to run 26 miles with like that. FM appears to be working harder than the other runners. Have you been able to figure out what FM was accomplishing once he came into view, until he tossed the black item. His white bib flips over as it becomes visible. That was unusual. All this just 3 or 4 minutes from the finish line. Seems to me that this is a lot of activity and wasted time and energy so close to the finish. Screaming of something fishy. FM was not near any other runners while doing this. Maybe that was by design. It too is possible that he had recently either re-entered the course or been handed the black item from the sideline. He seems pretty high up where that turn is.
Do you know, or could you find out how many mats FM missed at CIM. DQ's are extremely uncommon. I'm sure CIM took the matter seriously considering who he was, and the time he ran. Maybe running CIM was FM's biggest mistake.