Are "flat-earthers" an actual thing?

Earths tangent wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

If you ask any optician, refraction can do way more than that.

My argument is that refraction undermines any line-of-sight experiment conclusions, and in the right conditions, can make the earth appear flatter than it is, if you are unaware of, or unwilling to accept, this effect.

By asserting that there is a distortion, you are unwittingly helping me make that argument.

Rekrunner, why are you responding to this troll. What difference does refraction make? He's claiming that 2 people 6 feet tall shouldn't be able to see each other 3 miles away because of the curvature.

Where are his calculations to support this ridiculous assertion?

Two people six feet tall SHOULD be able to see each other ~6 miles away. Refraction adds just a little more to the equation, but not much.

Here is a simple explanation

You should at least acknowledge the where you copy and pasted direct passages from.http://kollinos.blogspot.com/2015_02_01_archive.html

More evidence for gravitational theory and the universe model as we know it:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/11/us/gravitational-waves-feat/index.html

so the new findings on gravitational waves means the earth is flat, right?

Man-made satellites!

Don't you have a flat-earth link explaining how man-made satellites are possible?

What do LEO, MEO, GEO, Polar orbits look like on a flat-earth?

Satellites use solar panels, so pointing at the sun is not some random chance, but a mandatory goal for a long functioning of the satellites. Yet for all satellites, the earth manages to get in between the sun and the satellites, casting a shadow on the solar panels. A fundamental part of satellite and mission design has to account for these solar eclipses. How is that possible in the flat earth model?

All these different orbits and eclipse event predictions are easily calculated using a spherical earth model, with an earth rotating on its axis once per day, and revolving around a sun some 93,000,000 miles away, once revolution per year.

Don't you have a link to a youtube video with the corrected calculations? Polar orbits would be particularly odd, as the satellites appear to speed up enormously as they approach the Antarctica ice ring-wall, only to appear some moments later, on the "polar" opposite side of the earth, and slow back down on it's journey to the north pole. What physics explains this repeated cycle of massive acceleration and deceleration?

PS: What the flight instructor and the air traffic controller missed in science class:

"The earth isn’t flat, and radar beams don’t travel straight. "

http://prod.sandia.gov/techlib/access-control.cgi/2012/1210690.pdf

Right, I know, a document funded by the US Government.

Wrong argument, because the shadows are caused by the sun going down, not necessarily because Earth is in the way.

During daytime you can easily see that the sun is brighter the higher it is. At noon it is way up high and very bright. In morning and evening, there's nothing blocking it yet it's much dimmer. Logically when it goes down, it will be darker still.

The most scientific way to explain this, as Einstein proved light is subject to gravity just like everything else. Therefore it travels downward more easily than upward. This is why lamps are typically affixed to the ceiling and not the floor.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Wrong argument, because the shadows are caused by the sun going down, not necessarily because Earth is in the way.

During daytime you can easily see that the sun is brighter the higher it is. At noon it is way up high and very bright. In morning and evening, there's nothing blocking it yet it's much dimmer. Logically when it goes down, it will be darker still.

The most scientific way to explain this, as Einstein proved light is subject to gravity just like everything else. Therefore it travels downward more easily than upward. This is why lamps are typically affixed to the ceiling and not the floor.

This, my friends, is the Albert Einstein of our generation!

BTW, I'm not reading your posts until you properly answer the ping pong balls question.Satellites have antennas pointing at the earth, and solar panels pointing at the sun. We know with remarkable accuracy which angle to point antennas and solar panels. Antennas, and solar panels, are not omni-directional. Satellites would fail if we get these angles wrong, either transmitting signals in the wrong direction, or suffer a loss of power, triggering payload shutoff faults.Moon-blinding: The moon also passes behind the earth in a predictable pattern, assuming gravity, orbits, and a spherical earth. Some satellites look for four edges of the earth to improve pointing accuracy. Occasionally we have to disable earth sensors when the moon is in its field of view, else the satellite mistakes the moon as a moving edge of the earth, and starts to point in the direction of the passing moon.I know the spherical earth model and calculations for all these events. I can't begin to fathom the flat earth transformations required to these equations, that explain all these satellite events with the same accuracy.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Wrong argument, because the shadows are caused by the sun going down, not necessarily because Earth is in the way.

During daytime you can easily see that the sun is brighter the higher it is. At noon it is way up high and very bright. In morning and evening, there's nothing blocking it yet it's much dimmer. Logically when it goes down, it will be darker still.

The most scientific way to explain this, as Einstein proved light is subject to gravity just like everything else. Therefore it travels downward more easily than upward. This is why lamps are typically affixed to the ceiling and not the floor.

There are no real pictures of satellites orbiting the earth, they are all CGI & animations. Spacewalks in the thermosphere? lol. Great video from Brian Mullin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HaCEMy28u4

What about the satellites that you can just look up and see?

On clear nights, we've taken many pictures of our own satellites from a camera attached to a telescope. Not only that, we communicate regularly with them by sending signals where they are supposed to be in orbit, and receiving responses. And we get TV!

Legit question wrote:

There are no real pictures of satellites orbiting the earth, they are all CGI & animations. Spacewalks in the thermosphere? lol. Great video from Brian Mullin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HaCEMy28u4

athiest

Walk off the Earth wrote:

Got one active on the atheist thread right now.

Typical LRC poster wrote:

Legit question wrote:

Water will always find its flatness. Water doesn't curve, except for waves in the ocean but that water is seeking flatness. Right?

Legitimately curious here, but have you ever thought about checking your ludicrous ideas with actual physics or using real observations and logic.

Are you flat-earthers nonbelievers in science?

Here is an experiment/demonstration about water seeking its own level.

Try again and don't show me CGI from NASA.

We can settle this flat earth argument this way:

Show me one image taken from a satellite that shows a person on a globe walking in the extreme Southern Hemisphere practically upside down or a car driving upside down or a plane flying upside down. Should be easy, right NASA?

Yes. Its called the religious right-wing.

Yup, ridiculous. Just like the religious right-wingers who do not believe climate change/science is real.

This has to be one of if not the most successful trolls of all time. Congrats!

Although I suppose it's hard to know how many bites are real and how many are from the troll. Could be unprecedented effort, as opposed to unprecedented success

Since you have been brainwashed since the crib, accepted the globe lie, and refuse to do your research into flat earth, I expect ridicule from sheep like you.

That was a good video defending the flat earth point of view. Watch it. Flat earthers are not necessarily only religious types or right wingers. It is much broader than that and the movement is growing. More and more people each day are going to the flat earth side.