Official Brett Kavanaugh confirmation thread

No need to apologize wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

It may also be political suicide. I feel that if Kavanaugh gets confirmed you will see a massive uptick in women voters over the next 4-8yrs.

I don’t think many people understand how many women have been assaulted or molested and never come forward other than telling family members.

This has been a ticking time bomb ever since the #MeToo movement started. It’s throwing gas on a fire the GOP doesn’t want ignited.

Alan

Alan, don't people vote on the economy or wars anymore? Maybe this is the problem, America is obsessed with social issues.

No. The problem is lack of focus on social issues. Regimes which have lost power because they focused too much on manly things have been destroyed by the people over and over and over again.

Maybe the answer is a focus on social issues and economy. Those two are tightly related. Drop the focus on war, and put the efforts of the people into work in more productive ways; like infrastructure and technological enhancements.

Flagpole wrote:

To all of you who said I didn't know anything, that I was just being partisan, now we have the American Bar Association calling for a halt to the voting. The GOP reportedly doesn't have the votes, and yesterday after the hearing, a bunch of Yale students who went to school with Kavanaugh all sent around messages saying he lied like a rug about his drinking.

He will not be confirmed as I said. I will do this part in lower case, but you still get the point:

i told you so.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/09/28/lynne-brookes-kavanaugh-classmate-cuomo-cpt-intv-vpx-bts.cnn

Awesome. You really went out on a limb after the third accuser came forward to proclaim he wouldn’t be confirmed.

Meanwhile, most of us said it long before you jumped on the bandwagon.

Regardless of the outcome of this, The democratic party has used a baseless allegation to ruin Kavanaugh's reputation and this will follow him for the rest of his life. They have sent the message loud and clear that it is ok to ruin someone if you don't like their political views. I haven't voted republican in 12 years, but this November I will be.

Whichever side wins the Kavanaugh saga will lose in the long run.

Voters will rally around their side’s perceived injustice.

That is exactly what struck me. Although I don't approve of it, I can understand why someone in his position might choose to lie about a physical interaction that he may have honestly regarded as a 17-year-old's drunken horseplay, and that others are now characterizing as attempted rape or worse by a sexual predator who is unfit for his dream job -- and, for that matter, unfit for his current job and even subject to criminal prosecution. But in his testimony, he repeatedly and obviously lied about things (many that you haven't mentioned) that he could have admitted, probably enhancing his credibility without further undermining his chances of confirmation. He lied about statements made by or on behalf of others who were allegedly at the gathering, he lied about the applicable drinking age when he was in a senior in high school, he misrepresented the details of various claims against him, he lied about a number of items on his personal yearbook page.

Different people have focused on different lies and evasions in his testimony. One that really bothers me was his lie about the meaning of "Renate Alumnius." Schoolmates said what it really meant (in case anyone had any doubt), and his explanation was at odds with his own attorney's statement that it referred to his attendance at a high school event with this poor girl Renate whom he kissed afterwards -- a statement flatly denied by Renate herself. Why couldn't Kavanaugh simply acknowledge that it was crude adolescent chest-thumping that he is now ashamed and embarrassed about?

My initial reaction to Ford's allegations was considerable skepticism, coupled with a belief that the allegations should not be grounds for voting against confirmation. My concerns about Kavanaugh were -- and, for the most part, still are -- based on his judicial opinions. But I no longer view him as an honest person whose good-faith views about the law happen to trouble me.

Bernie Sanders Canvasser wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Yes a week from now the FBI will have a statement from Mark Judge on how he doesn’t know anything about Dr. Ford’s claim. Yawn.

I'm making an audio book of Judge's novel. It reads like a confession under oath. I've got Mike Tyson to read the Art O'Kavanaugh's parts. I figure Trump likes protecting woman abusers from Iron Mike to Glass Jaw Brett so Tyson is perfect for the role.

Meds will help your oration.

The current democratic party (which I have left) is more and more resembling Jim Jones. Capitalism is bad. The black people need my leadership. I've committed acts of homosexuality. They need my leadership.

We need socialism. THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS.

She is another lying POS

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

INCORRECT!

Yes you do. Just this week you jumped on the Avennati claim. It seems like even the most bizarre theories you fall for. Cleary you are extremely partisan and emotionallly locked to your biases.

You are an idiot.....

Avenatti is known as someone who very carefully vets clients he takes on. He had a few women approach him about Trump whom he didn't take on because they didn't vet well. He is very forceful in saying that Julie Swetnick was assaulted by Kavanaugh and that they have corroborating witnesses.

.....the allegations themselves deserve to be looked at...all very credible.

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Flagpole,

Interesting. Certainly not my impression of Avennati or the claim. At this point there are zero facts that justify issuing a warrant. Both genders have a right to fairness under the law.

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Ha ha. Jim Jones. I told you capitalism is bad. Are you ready to die for me?

Hey numbnutz, women don't do what the Democratic party or Republican party tells them to do. We vote our conscience. Maybe you should try again. Quit lumping us together. Got it.

Pookie Washington wrote:

pissed off wrote:

Regardless of the outcome of this, The democratic party has used a baseless allegation to ruin Kavanaugh's reputation and this will follow him for the rest of his life. They have sent the message loud and clear that it is ok to ruin someone if you don't like their political views. I haven't voted republican in 12 years, but this November I will be.

STFU

So a guy points out the obvious and you can't handle it, good one.

I can't comprehend how dopey you are wrote:

So a guy points out the obvious and you can't handle it, good one.

What is obvious is how easily you got triggered, punkin.

Again, he is not up to par with his behavior. He has an issue with behavior, not understanding his audience, and ego, but he is very intelligent...his academic record says so.

The acceptance rate at Yale has been exceedingly small for years. Only the brightest of the bright (unless you are an athlete, and he was, but not a recruited one and only JV, so that didn't count for him or someone with connections, and he didn't have those) get into Yale. He was then among the top students in his law class...that takes some smarts, ESPECIALLY with the kind of drinking he was apparently doing.

He's an ass, and again, he made mistakes in that hearing because he has issues with his behavior, but he's an exceedingly intelligent person.

Flagpole wrote:

he's an exceedingly intelligent person.

“The issues in the bigger picture concern a Democratic Party driven by immense bad faith to any means that justify the defeat of this Supreme Court nominee for reasons that everyone over nine-years-old understands: the fear that a majority conservative court will overturn Roe v. Wade - despite Judge Kavanaugh’s statement many times that it is “settled law.”

What one senses beyond that, though, is the malign spirit of the party’s last candidate for president in the 2016 election and a desperate crusade to continue litigating that outcome until the magic moment when a “blue tide” of midterm election victories seals the ultimate victory over the detested alien in the White House.”

-James Howard Kunsler

Sounds like a description of Flagpole.

Flagpole, people like you use sexual assault victims to exploit them for your own benefit. You could careless about her problem. I don’t see you whining about Booker or Ellison.

pissed off wrote:

Regardless of the outcome of this, The democratic party has used a baseless allegation to ruin Kavanaugh's reputation and this will follow him for the rest of his life. They have sent the message loud and clear that it is ok to ruin someone if you don't like their political views. I haven't voted republican in 12 years, but this November I will be.

BS. She talked about this with friends, a therapist, and her husband years before Trump was even president. It's not baseless at all. It may not be able to be proven to anyone's satisfaction, including mine, but it's not baseless at all.