Robert Young fakes run across America

skyrefuge wrote:

Yeah, in their photo gallery (

https://www.facebook.com/marathonmanuk/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1033074693443455

) he's regularly seen alternating between a white (with red trim) and black (with blue/green trim) TomTom watch. It would be relatively straightforward (but time-consuming) to associate each photo with a TomTom-screenshot segment, if it comes to the point that doing such an exercise would reduce the time-zone confusion in linking TomTom screenshots to Strava activities.

For the record, I did not notice anyone else in the photos wearing one of the TomTom watches.

According to his own Facebook post, he got the white/red watch in April 2014 (for free), it's a TomTom Cardio Runner. The black/blue watch looks like a TomTom Spark:

Both have optical HR sensors, the latter one has also daily activity tracking (steps and sleep).

It would be interesting to get his sleep data.

The problem is that there aren't that many pictures in the blog from when the extra fast running was going on (mid May through early June). The pictures that do exist are mostly in the daytime. I checked a few anyway and couldn't find any run data associated with them (IE missing segments).

laz said there was a hatch on the back of the RV, so it would have been easy to climb on board whenever he wanted.

Investigator wrote:

I don't see a link for that anywhere, can you be more specific?

On the top right, like on this picture:

Excrement Is Free wrote:

Moveon.org wrote:

No smoking gun after weeks of investigating?

Time to move on.

Oh, it's there. At the moment it would seem to be safely tucked away in Dustbin's rather capacious lower bowel. Up to Team Sociopath whether or not they hand it over.

Unlike Mike Rossi or Dr Kip, there appears to be substantial financial fraud involved here, like OUR HERO LANCE ARMSTRONG. If the SKINS brand suffers significant damage, maybe they will sue him in civil court. It's not like Jack Webb is going to show up and throw him in jail.

Where is the proof?

I'm assuming this is the hatch:

He could also climb the ladder and rest on top, stargazing (sounds nice, especially with those dark clear desert skies):

Btw, this photo corresponds to the middle of the night when there was cheating going on:

Here's the street view:

It's at the end of this segment:

And the next segment is missing (and missing from the TomTom screenshots). The next segment is

(almost certainly a cheater section with all 5:xx or 6:xx miles until the end.

The missing section has fast tracker data, too: 5.83 miles in a row in 34:00, or 5:50 pace. This must have followed all the photos of his friends walking during the day with the 100-mile club t-shirts. (e.g.,

)

The watch models cause a lot of confusion but essentially the Spark and Runner 2 are the same thing as far as I can make out.

" It should be noted that in order to slightly increase confusion, the Spark will also be sold under a slightly different product name (Runner 2) at some specialty stores. It’s the exact same watch, just a different black strap and a different box/packaging focusing on the black strap (because it has a different name, Runner 2)." (from the dcrainmaker article)

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I catalogued that on the blog:

http://ryinvestigation.blogspot.com/2016/06/was-bike-used-to-cheat.html

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I am sure that all of us have our favorite piece of incriminating evidence. But for me this Bike Video coupled with a Strava upload of GPS data taken from a bike is truly the smoking gun. It is proof positive that some unknown percentage of the GPS data that he is reporting as runs are in fact taken on a bike.

Of course, he would counter by saying that this was just one isolated mistake. But even with that unbelievable excuse he has 3 difficult follow up questions to answer:

1. Why was your running GPS watch on another person? (this is a transcon run of one person. not a team. Was it a team effort in accumulating the GPS data on the road?)

2. Why was GPS data recorded and uploaded while riding a Bicycle? (how does such an error happen unless it is practice to do so?)

3. What type of piss poor documentation of this run allows you to upload a Bicycle ride GPS data as one of your Run segments?

Each of these questions would result in immediate disqualification of any true regulated event. What answers could be satisfactory?

Therefore I vote that this Bike video coupled with GPS data from a bike ride closes the case!

Another bike/run overlap:

https://www.strava.com/activities/619875244

https://www.strava.com/activities/619875729

Looks like they were biking and running pretty hard for a half mile: last 0.5 in about 2:50, and they both crossed the divided highway. I wonder if they have video for that.

Followed up immediately with a fast downhill sprint... But it doesn't last, and he then alternates between jogging (8:00 pace) and walking (15:00 pace). Interestingly, these are really short segments going into Farmington, NM. I wonder if they were filming the whole way through there.

Jehosephat wrote:

Specific to the time zone offsets, I think it is reasonable to assume they had two tom tom watches (if not more). One was set to display (or download, not sure where it monkeys with the gps time) local time. The other seems to have been set to UK time. Kansas is London+6, for example.

The trackers, GPS watches and strava accounts were intentionally kept on different time zones, just to make it more difficult for anyone to analyze what really happened.

One more point regarding question #2.

We all know that GPS watches don't accidentally just start themselves. So that bike rider (Dustin) made a conscious decision to lock in the satellite and then hit start while riding the bike! The ONLY way this happens is if this was standard procedure. It has to be a conscious decision to cheat. No such accident is possible.

Wow, you're deceived and as a "christian" you an incredible lack of discernment. Robert Young is a phony, a fraud, a liar and a charlatan. There may be other things too. The probe continues.

team1.kml wrote:

I'm assuming this is the hatch:

https://goo.gl/J9I5uP

That doesn't really look too comfortable to crawl into, and most of the time it was covered by the Skins banner. I'm not sure what the advantage would be to stowing away in the hatch vs. just standing in the side doorway.

team1.kml wrote:

Btw, this photo corresponds to the middle of the night when there was cheating going on:

https://goo.gl/w2hk6V

I think the 3 mile segment leading up to that border-crossing photo looks legit. A rare bit of actual running! The track shows him crossing back from the wrong side of the road when he sees the sign, hopping the guardrail for the photo, and then backtracking to get in the RV, which stayed behind him on the road. Also, he actually has his flashlight in his hand.

But yeah, then they hung out there in the RV for 30 minutes or so, and went driving off without telling Rob to get out.

Bike video is Key wrote:

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I catalogued that on the blog:

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I am sure that all of us have our favorite piece of incriminating evidence. But for me this Bike Video coupled with a Strava upload of GPS data taken from a bike is truly the smoking gun. It is proof positive that some unknown percentage of the GPS data that he is reporting as runs are in fact taken on a bike.

Of course, he would counter by saying that this was just one isolated mistake. But even with that unbelievable excuse he has 3 difficult follow up questions to answer:

1. Why was your running GPS watch on another person? (this is a transcon run of one person. not a team. Was it a team effort in accumulating the GPS data on the road?)

2. Why was GPS data recorded and uploaded while riding a Bicycle? (how does such an error happen unless it is practice to do so?)

3. What type of piss poor documentation of this run allows you to upload a Bicycle ride GPS data as one of your Run segments?

Each of these questions would result in immediate disqualification of any true regulated event. What answers could be satisfactory?

Therefore I vote that this Bike video coupled with GPS data from a bike ride closes the case![/quote]

That is AWESOME work.

I swear to God, you guys should get a freaking Pulitzer for this stuff.

Bravo. (And I absolutely mean it.)

team1.kml wrote:

Another bike/run overlap:

https://www.strava.com/activities/619875244https://www.strava.com/activities/619875729

Looks like they were biking and running pretty hard for a half mile: last 0.5 in about 2:50, and they both crossed the divided highway. I wonder if they have video for that.

Followed up immediately with a fast downhill sprint... But it doesn't last, and he then alternates between jogging (8:00 pace) and walking (15:00 pace). Interestingly, these are really short segments going into Farmington, NM. I wonder if they were filming the whole way through there.

Nice. I think someone mentioned this instance yesterday, along with the stop at the sex shop, haha. Now that I look more closely, this one is even more egregious because unlike my example, here there are non-overlapping miles. So RY has uploaded a bike activity completely passing it off as a run.

Working link:

Bike video is Key wrote:

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I catalogued that on the blog:

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I am sure that all of us have our favorite piece of incriminating evidence. But for me this Bike Video coupled with a Strava upload of GPS data taken from a bike is truly the smoking gun. It is proof positive that some unknown percentage of the GPS data that he is reporting as runs are in fact taken on a bike.

Of course, he would counter by saying that this was just one isolated mistake. But even with that unbelievable excuse he has 3 difficult follow up questions to answer:

1. Why was your running GPS watch on another person? (this is a transcon run of one person. not a team. Was it a team effort in accumulating the GPS data on the road?)

2. Why was GPS data recorded and uploaded while riding a Bicycle? (how does such an error happen unless it is practice to do so?)

3. What type of piss poor documentation of this run allows you to upload a Bicycle ride GPS data as one of your Run segments?

Each of these questions would result in immediate disqualification of any true regulated event. What answers could be satisfactory?

Therefore I vote that this Bike video coupled with GPS data from a bike ride closes the case![/quote]

In addition to GPS uploaded from bikes, they have GPS taken and uploaded from a vehicle. About 6 seconds at 35mph.

A miscommunication most likely. One guy starts the watch thinking they are starting a "run", the driver isn't on the same page and takes off, the guy with the watch turns it off but doesn't delete it. There's a 2nd section like this in the GPX data but was deleted from strava.

Oddly enough that particular section was off their route. After they stopped for a long break just past Lebo KS, they recorded this segment and a 4 mile 10min pace segment heading due north/south. The 4 mile segment was never put on strava.

1 2 3 green wrote:

Bike video is Key wrote:

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I catalogued that on the blog:

http://ryinvestigation.blogspot.com/2016/06/was-bike-used-to-cheat.html

I am sure that all of us have our favorite piece of incriminating evidence. But for me this Bike Video coupled with a Strava upload of GPS data taken from a bike is truly the smoking gun. It is proof positive that some unknown percentage of the GPS data that he is reporting as runs are in fact taken on a bike.

Of course, he would counter by saying that this was just one isolated mistake. But even with that unbelievable excuse he has 3 difficult follow up questions to answer:

1. Why was your running GPS watch on another person? (this is a transcon run of one person. not a team. Was it a team effort in accumulating the GPS data on the road?)

2. Why was GPS data recorded and uploaded while riding a Bicycle? (how does such an error happen unless it is practice to do so?)

3. What type of piss poor documentation of this run allows you to upload a Bicycle ride GPS data as one of your Run segments?

Each of these questions would result in immediate disqualification of any true regulated event. What answers could be satisfactory?

Therefore I vote that this Bike video coupled with GPS data from a bike ride closes the case![/quote]

In addition to GPS uploaded from bikes, they have GPS taken and uploaded from a vehicle. About 6 seconds at 35mph.

A miscommunication most likely. One guy starts the watch thinking they are starting a "run", the driver isn't on the same page and takes off, the guy with the watch turns it off but doesn't delete it. There's a 2nd section like this in the GPX data but was deleted from strava.

Oddly enough that particular section was off their route. After they stopped for a long break just past Lebo KS, they recorded this segment and a 4 mile 10min pace segment heading due north/south. The 4 mile segment was never put on strava.

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Huh, weird. What is the 2nd section like this? I wonder why they were off of their route (http://i.imgur.com/V11uEts.png)?

Bike video is Key wrote:

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I catalogued that on the blog:

[/quote]

I am sure that all of us have our favorite piece of incriminating evidence. But for me this Bike Video coupled with a Strava upload of GPS data taken from a bike is truly the smoking gun. It is proof positive that some unknown percentage of the GPS data that he is reporting as runs are in fact taken on a bike.

Of course, he would counter by saying that this was just one isolated mistake. But even with that unbelievable excuse he has 3 difficult follow up questions to answer:

1. Why was your running GPS watch on another person? (this is a transcon run of one person. not a team. Was it a team effort in accumulating the GPS data on the road?)

2. Why was GPS data recorded and uploaded while riding a Bicycle? (how does such an error happen unless it is practice to do so?)

3. What type of piss poor documentation of this run allows you to upload a Bicycle ride GPS data as one of your Run segments?

Each of these questions would result in immediate disqualification of any true regulated event. What answers could be satisfactory?

Therefore I vote that this Bike video coupled with GPS data from a bike ride closes the case![/quote]

Maybe he covered some of it on one of these:

In fact, maybe one of you could photoshop him in there and relocate this to rte 66 or wherever