New England hired the Coach from Regis
She's very qualified but just goes to show that men can get volunteer gigs but can't get head coaching positions in this sport.
And we wonder why men leave the profession
New England hired the Coach from Regis
She's very qualified but just goes to show that men can get volunteer gigs but can't get head coaching positions in this sport.
And we wonder why men leave the profession
Truther szn wrote:
New England hired the Coach from Regis
She's very qualified but just goes to show that men can get volunteer gigs but can't get head coaching positions in this sport.
And we wonder why men leave the profession
Only going to get worse with current climate. If a black female shows up just give up. White males be afraid.
Female Coaches wrote:
Wow.
Not trying to play any male or female card, but as a female coach who applied to this position it just goes to show that women will get hired for entire level positions, but male ADs want male coaches as Head Coaches. And even as a women's only program. And people wonder why women get out of the coaching profession when there is no room to move up the ladder.
And FYI: my coaching experience and credentials do make me qualified for this position, but I will admit he has been coaching longer then I have.
C'mon...
I am not close to the situation and did not know this guy existed 10 minutes ago, but it is pretty lame to say what you did. It is a DI head coaching gig; RMU probably received 100 applications with at least 10 of those (including you and the hire) meeting minimum requirements in terms of college experience.
In this case, this coaches specific experience (especially at the school in question) was probably a big factor in why he was chosen.
I am not saying male ADs are not more comfortable hiring men in head positions, but it is also true that ADs actively seek to hire women when at all possible.
Female Coaches wrote:
Wow.
Not trying to play any male or female card, but as a female coach who applied to this position it just goes to show that women will get hired for entire level positions, but male ADs want male coaches as Head Coaches. And even as a women's only program. And people wonder why women get out of the coaching profession when there is no room to move up the ladder.
And FYI: my coaching experience and credentials do make me qualified for this position, but I will admit he has been coaching longer then I have.
The fact that you even posted that comment here tells us that you don't have the character to deserve that position.
Delsite is an extremely accomplished and well respected coach. The success he achieved at Duquesne and Bucknell is very impressive. His athletes speak very highly of him.
Maybe you aren't getting jobs because you are a terrible human being.
Only going to get worse with current climate. If a black female shows up just give up. White males be afraid.[/quote]
Enlighten me, please:
What's the "current climate"?
White males? Let's aim for a diverse profession.
Now I'm curious, how many Black females are actually head coaches? Not many
How many Native Americans are coaches?
How many Hispanic females are there?
How many transgender coaches are there?
The list goes on and on.
Lets not get all political on this, this is a thread about new openings not about politics
Btw wrote:
Only going to get worse with current climate. If a black female shows up just give up. White males be afraid.
Enlighten me, please:
What's the "current climate"?
White males? Let's aim for a diverse profession.
Now I'm curious, how many Black females are actually head coaches? Not many[/quote]
How many legitimately should be? You probably wouldn’t like the answer. Why does a profession need to be diverse?
Sounds like something a privileged white male would say
Agree
BUMP... get back to thread, not positions not why you didn't get hired bc of you gender or age.
Let’s be honest here as well - just because you are extremely well qualified for a job doesn’t mean that there aren’t other extremely well qualified candidates for the same job. Being qualified doesn’t guarantee you a job.
40 year coach wrote:
Female Coaches wrote:
Wow.
Not trying to play any male or female card, but as a female coach who applied to this position it just goes to show that women will get hired for entire level positions, but male ADs want male coaches as Head Coaches. And even as a women's only program. And people wonder why women get out of the coaching profession when there is no room to move up the ladder.
And FYI: my coaching experience and credentials do make me qualified for this position, but I will admit he has been coaching longer then I have.
The fact that you even posted that comment here tells us that you don't have the character to deserve that position.
Delsite is an extremely accomplished and well respected coach. The success he achieved at Duquesne and Bucknell is very impressive. His athletes speak very highly of him.
Maybe you aren't getting jobs because you are a terrible human being.
This is quite unfair to say. Yes the AD is pretty new, but she made a point and instead of insulting maybe if you looked at the coaching staff make up you would she were see was coming from. Out of 48 total coaching staff (some assistant positions yet to be filled), 9 are women, and of the 9 women’s head coaching spots only 2 are women.
So yes there are many subjective factors that go into hirings , but let’s not act like she is saying her point is the only factor to consider and then dismiss her valid point! They can all coexist!!
One of my former HS athletes had Rinker her frosh year at LSU. From never running HS XC, he got her to NCAA Prelims in the 10k. Give him some credit.
Full story of UNE: they just had their first NCAA D3 XC qualifier in years and are launching the women's track program next year (no men's tf).
Regis coach is distance-oriented and coached in a very similar New England xctf conference (Regis - GNAC; UNE - CCC). Makes for a very sound transition especially for a new program getting started.
Female Coaches wrote:
Wow.
Not trying to play any male or female card, but as a female coach who applied to this position it just goes to show that women will get hired for entire level positions, but male ADs want male coaches as Head Coaches. And even as a women's only program. And people wonder why women get out of the coaching profession when there is no room to move up the ladder.
And FYI: my coaching experience and credentials do make me qualified for this position, but I will admit he has been coaching longer then I have.
I will bite, so besides your gender what in your resume makes you more qualified to receive this job than the individual that got it?
Isn't equality the job going to the best candidate no matter the gender? He seems to have a pretty solid resume, and from your wording, I'm assuming you are an assistant with no head coaching experience that this guy has if so maybe that was the deal breaker.
Switching it back to the job discussion do we start to see a huge wave of openings since contracts get renewed July first or no? What do we think
Reflection_ wrote:
40 year coach wrote:
The fact that you even posted that comment here tells us that you don't have the character to deserve that position.
Delsite is an extremely accomplished and well respected coach. The success he achieved at Duquesne and Bucknell is very impressive. His athletes speak very highly of him.
Maybe you aren't getting jobs because you are a terrible human being.
This is quite unfair to say. Yes the AD is pretty new, but she made a point and instead of insulting maybe if you looked at the coaching staff make up you would she were see was coming from. Out of 48 total coaching staff (some assistant positions yet to be filled), 9 are women, and of the 9 women’s head coaching spots only 2 are women.
So yes there are many subjective factors that go into hirings , but let’s not act like she is saying her point is the only factor to consider and then dismiss her valid point! They can all coexist!!
Calling the AD sexist without evidence is beyond the pale. Your count means nothing - merit is more important than those ratios.
She had no valid point. The hired candidate was highly qualified.
In fact, the discrimination actually goes the other way - against men.
https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/track/2016/01/27/university-of-iowa-settles-male-track-coach-discrimination-lawsuit/79403556/alexrunsmiles wrote:
One of my former HS athletes had Rinker her frosh year at LSU. From never running HS XC, he got her to NCAA Prelims in the 10k. Give him some credit.
Getting untrained, and undeveloped athletes (ie: a walk on who never ran HS XC) to improve is not hard. Anyone who has taken a level 1 course should be able to do this.
There is a misconception that "coaching" is what college coaches do. The reality, is that most (not all) college coaches are adequate coaches. But can you do the other stuff? Can you recruit high performing athletes to your school that are also being heavily recruited by other high performing programs? Can you recruit high performing athletes that are not in your event group (particularly if they are in the head coach's event group)? Can you manage large groups of athletes that all require individual training schedules? Can you motivate your athletes to follow the training schedule without you being present (while you're on the road recruiting).
I know it's blasphemous to state on this board that coaching is a small portion of the requirements to be a successful college coach, but it is the truth.
As well, at places like LSU, they don't care if you take a walk-on to prelims. You need to be able take a high performing athlete and make them a NCAA scorer. The difference between the two is monumental.
I know nothing about Rinker's approach or style, but I think it's safe to say that if he was good at most of these aspects of college coaching he wouldn't be volunteering right now.