How can Republicans get to the truth when they are shut out from the truth-finding process???
Care to share the political affiliation of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger?
The Republicans had the chance to participate fully and DECLINED. They did so to try to label the committee as partisan. It is not, and the Republican strategy of CHOOSING to sit this out has blown up in their faces. There ARE Republicans on the committee. Unfortunately for the Trumpsters, those Republicans are committed to getting to the truth.
Further, almost every person who has provided testimony is a Republican. They voted for Trump and some have even said they would do so again. But they are also willing to tell the truth while under oath.
What is lacking is people who would try to hide the truth, obfuscate, and bloviate endlessly. And that is what makes these hearings so incredibly effective.
They despise Trump. How can we have a fair process when only one side is asking the questions and providing the witnesses. The lead guy said Trump was guilty on Day 1 without any testimony. You really think this is about fact-finding or just presenting their narrative. Come on!
That's because only one side of the committee is determined to get to the truth. The other is committed to Trump's lies.
How can Republicans get to the truth when they are shut out from the truth-finding process???
Photographs of ketchup splattered on White House walls don't lie. They are a key part of the undisputed record. No one can deny that Trump threw a plate of finger food at drunken Giuliani. No one has denied it. Not even Matt Gaetz has denied it. He should have consulted a sober lawyer before asking for a pardon. A pardon is an admission or criminality. Asking for a pardon is not hearsay.
Care to share the political affiliation of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger?
The Republicans had the chance to participate fully and DECLINED. They did so to try to label the committee as partisan. It is not, and the Republican strategy of CHOOSING to sit this out has blown up in their faces. There ARE Republicans on the committee. Unfortunately for the Trumpsters, those Republicans are committed to getting to the truth.
Further, almost every person who has provided testimony is a Republican. They voted for Trump and some have even said they would do so again. But they are also willing to tell the truth while under oath.
What is lacking is people who would try to hide the truth, obfuscate, and bloviate endlessly. And that is what makes these hearings so incredibly effective.
They despise Trump. How can we have a fair process when only one side is asking the questions and providing the witnesses. The lead guy said Trump was guilty on Day 1 without any testimony. You really think this is about fact-finding or just presenting their narrative. Come on!
Let's play it this way then:
If there were legitimate counter-points to be made, witnesses to call and questions to ask, don't you think that Fox News would be providing a non-stop lineup of these people, allowing them to present their "truth" without even being under oath?
The silence on the right tells you what you need to know.
The best the right can do is attack a witness (standard ad hominem crap), call the witnesses RINOs, and other parlor tricks.
Six Republicans voted with all Democrats on a procedural vote to move to debate in the Senate on the bipartisan bill, but they fell short of the 60 votes needed to avert a filibuster.
They despise Trump. How can we have a fair process when only one side is asking the questions and providing the witnesses. The lead guy said Trump was guilty on Day 1 without any testimony. You really think this is about fact-finding or just presenting their narrative. Come on!
Let's play it this way then:
If there were legitimate counter-points to be made, witnesses to call and questions to ask, don't you think that Fox News would be providing a non-stop lineup of these people, allowing them to present their "truth" without even being under oath?
The silence on the right tells you what you need to know.
The best the right can do is attack a witness (standard ad hominem crap), call the witnesses RINOs, and other parlor tricks.
Do you want the TRUTH or do you not care about the truth? You CAN NOT find the truth when one side dominates the process. YOu simply can not have the truth when a very left-leaning Congress with a narrative in motion controls everything. They don't want the truth. They want Trump strung up and hung. They have bene after him for 5 years now. First Mueller, then IMpeachment 1 then Impeachment 2 - now this fiasco. You Liberals are sick!
I guess we are back to trying to deflect from the facts
Your "facts" would be a little bit more "factual" if you would do what everyone else does and provide the source.
It can't be that difficult. You copied all those paragraphs about "explosive docs," "trove of documents," "drinking fraternities," "FBI Plants" and "mullet heads" somewhere. If you at least say where you found it, people can review it and see whether it's something worth reviewing and begin assessing how accurate it is.
Weren't you one of the guys who got all spazzed about hearsay being in congressional hearings?
I guess we are back to trying to deflect from the facts
Your "facts" would be a little bit more "factual" if you would do what everyone else does and provide the source.
It can't be that difficult. You copied all those paragraphs about "explosive docs," "trove of documents," "drinking fraternities," "FBI Plants" and "mullet heads" somewhere. If you at least say where you found it, people can review it and see whether it's something worth reviewing and begin assessing how accurate it is.
Weren't you one of the guys who got all spazzed about hearsay being in congressional hearings?
From my prior comment: "The FBI had undercover operatives posing as Trump supporters who had infiltrated the crowds during the Capitol Hill riot on January 6, 2021, bombshell leaked documents from the Department of Justice have revealed. The explosive docs reveal that the FBI was running operations on Jan. 6 and had undercover agents planted months before the events took place. According to the “highly-sensitive” DOJ files, the undercover FBI agents noted in their reports that the suspects arrested for rioting were, in fact, innocent. A DOJ whistleblower reportedly leaked the trove of documents and text messages, to the Gateway Pundit."
Leaked documents from the Department of Justice;
According to the “highly-sensitive” DOJ files.
A DOJ whistleblower reportedly leaked the trove of documents and text messages, to the Gateway Pundit."
"The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories."
Your "facts" would be a little bit more "factual" if you would do what everyone else does and provide the source.
It can't be that difficult. You copied all those paragraphs about "explosive docs," "trove of documents," "drinking fraternities," "FBI Plants" and "mullet heads" somewhere. If you at least say where you found it, people can review it and see whether it's something worth reviewing and begin assessing how accurate it is.
Weren't you one of the guys who got all spazzed about hearsay being in congressional hearings?
You one of those guys who cannot use google?
Use Goog on what? You posted 489 words according to my text acclimator. I'm supposed to subjectively pick out keywords, goog them up, and then hope your source stands out amongst all the other possible sources Goog provides in its results? Why don't you just post the source like everyone else does, and save the people you are trying to converse with the hassle of figuring out wtf you are talking about?
You act like a child - "that's for me to know and you to find out." Where did you learn this disturbing behavior? It was from that guy wasn't it? That yogi-masheesh guy with the beard and the long fingernails, sitting around in robes looking like Ali-Baba?
"The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories."
Here we go.
Demand source.
Smear source with the usual establishment labels. Far right; conspiracy theories.
Do no research as then you run the risk of finding other sources that confirm the facts.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been outed in a New York Times piece for having undercover agents working the Capitol riot on January 6. Furthermore, the FBI agent was collaborating with a Proud Boys informant who con...
Use Goog on what? You posted 489 words according to my text acclimator. I'm supposed to subjectively pick out keywords, goog them up, and then hope your source stands out amongst all the other possible sources Goog provides in its results? Why don't you just post the source like everyone else does, and save the people you are trying to converse with the hassle of figuring out wtf you are talking about?
You act like a child - "that's for me to know and you to find out." Where did you learn this disturbing behavior? It was from that guy wasn't it? That yogi-masheesh guy with the beard and the long fingernails, sitting around in robes looking like Ali-Baba?
You’re really wasting your time arguing with Unkle. He’s about as sharp as a potato and doesn’t have the ability to think critically. His “sources” are more than likely from fake news conspiracy sites. Without even looking them up, because Carmine/Unkle just isn’t worth the time, I can guarantee his sources are from those sites.
The guy is an obtuse dolt that lives here. Don’t waste time on him because he’s not worth it.
You’re really wasting your time arguing with Unkle. He’s about as sharp as a potato and doesn’t have the ability to think critically. His “sources” are more than likely from fake news conspiracy sites. Without even looking them up, because Carmine/Unkle just isn’t worth the time, I can guarantee his sources are from those sites.
The guy is an obtuse dolt that lives here. Don’t waste time on him because he’s not worth it.
There you go. As I was replying to this thread, Unkle just saved us all time and listed some of his fake news/conspiracy sources.
Your "facts" would be a little bit more "factual" if you would do what everyone else does and provide the source.
It can't be that difficult. You copied all those paragraphs about "explosive docs," "trove of documents," "drinking fraternities," "FBI Plants" and "mullet heads" somewhere. If you at least say where you found it, people can review it and see whether it's something worth reviewing and begin assessing how accurate it is.
Weren't you one of the guys who got all spazzed about hearsay being in congressional hearings?
From my prior comment: "The FBI had undercover operatives posing as Trump supporters who had infiltrated the crowds during the Capitol Hill riot on January 6, 2021, bombshell leaked documents from the Department of Justice have revealed. The explosive docs reveal that the FBI was running operations on Jan. 6 and had undercover agents planted months before the events took place. According to the “highly-sensitive” DOJ files, the undercover FBI agents noted in their reports that the suspects arrested for rioting were, in fact, innocent. A DOJ whistleblower reportedly leaked the trove of documents and text messages, to the Gateway Pundit."
Leaked documents from the Department of Justice;
According to the “highly-sensitive” DOJ files.
A DOJ whistleblower reportedly leaked the trove of documents and text messages, to the Gateway Pundit."
Clear as day...yet you demand the source.
Figure it out yet?
No. Not clear as day. To be clear as day, you'd need to provide a link to the "explosive docs" and the "trove of documents" and the "text massages" and the "highly-sensitive DOJ files" that were "leaked" so we can actually read them and see what they say.
It's really not much good if someone, like yourself for example, says they have explosive docs, and then alleges what the explosive docs show, but won't show the explosive docs. We need docs, we need a trove of them, and they better be leaked and explosive!
95% of the persons who testified in the Jan 6 hearings so far are Republicans many of whom voted for Trump, not once but twice. They're testifying to what they saw and heard. There are 2 Republicans on the panel in Cheney and Kinzinger. Republicans had an opportunity for a bipartisan commission but said no.
And to those who said Jan 6 was a normal tourist day there have been multiple convictions against numerous people for crimes committed on that day
Of note 3 Oath Keepers have pleaded guilty to sedition against the United States a very serious crime that carries a 20 year penalty.
So Jan 6 is proving to be a serious, very serious matter, and we are likely just getting started.
If there were legitimate counter-points to be made, witnesses to call and questions to ask, don't you think that Fox News would be providing a non-stop lineup of these people, allowing them to present their "truth" without even being under oath?
The silence on the right tells you what you need to know.
The best the right can do is attack a witness (standard ad hominem crap), call the witnesses RINOs, and other parlor tricks.
Do you want the TRUTH or do you not care about the truth? You CAN NOT find the truth when one side dominates the process. YOu simply can not have the truth when a very left-leaning Congress with a narrative in motion controls everything. They don't want the truth. They want Trump strung up and hung. They have bene after him for 5 years now. First Mueller, then IMpeachment 1 then Impeachment 2 - now this fiasco. You Liberals are sick!
Now now Sally. You're getting a bit emotional about things. No need to.
Where are the denials? For the most part it has been silence from those you are referring to as "accused". Even from Trump who has likely been advised to keep his mouth shut just in case the DOJ gets involved with him.
"The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories."
Here we go.
Demand source.
Smear source with the usual establishment labels. Far right; conspiracy theories.
Do no research as then you run the risk of finding other sources that confirm the facts.
After the first call on the morning of Jan. 5, which lasted 11 minutes, according to White House call logs, Bannon went on a right-wing talk show and predicted the next day would be eventful.
“All hell is going to break loose tomorrow,” Bannon said in a clip of his appearance that was played during Tuesday’s hearing. “It’s all converging and now we’re on, as they say, the point of attack.”
“I’ll tell you this, it’s not going to happen like you think it’s going to happen,” he added. “It’s going to be quite extraordinarily different, and all I can say is strap in.”
This is the first time we have heard about Trump talking to Bannon that morning, right before going on the show. The implication is, Trump told Bannon about the attack on the Capitol planned for the next day.
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