Robert Young fakes run across America

OK that's all in the Google doc. No smoking gun, but I think the actual histogram analysis was very telling. Strava seems to smooth the data a bit and we don't hear much except for "Best Estimated 400m / .5 mile / 1 mile", but this shows that substantial aggregate time was spent at very high speeds. Way too much that it could just GPS signal acquisition artifact, for example, I think.

Been playing around with GoldenCheetah/WKO4 - if anyone has more ideas for data analysis let me know. The gpx files are in a google drive, referenced in the master google doc. I have them in TCX format too, where they are properly labeled as "runs" and import better into software like this, if needed.

Bustin Ducks wrote:

half a sixpence wrote:

the same Kipps who practises at the Putney Clinic, where Young gets his physio

http://www.putneyclinic.co.uk/marathon-man-uk/

The same clinic that has a page about 'Marathon Man UK' that was created on 15th April 2014 - amidst RY's first ever triple marathon! What a coincidence.

http://i.imgur.com/CpuaaaZ.jpg

Oh boy. The name 'MarathonMan UK is CREATED FOR THE FIRST TIME and seen for the first time from the Putney Clinic website. This is where Dr. Kipps works. Dr. Kipps may be in on the scam or is very stupid and believes Robbie.

This is NOT A COINCIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It looks like he is giving Robbie medical care and physiological tests.

It was already posted that when Dr. Kipps tested Robbie on the treadmill for VO2max testing…

Robbie showed the physiological VO2max ability of a 3:30 MARATHONER.

That is about right Dr. Courtney Kipps!

Robbie really is about a 3:30 marathoner!

A 3:30 marathoner is not a world champion or a world record holder.

I find it hard to believe that Dr. Kipps could be this stupid and have the 'MarathonMan UK' name first appear at his company's website.

There is a serious problem here for Dr. Kipps.

But other results are “remarkable for how unremarkable they are”, Kipps says. Young’s VO2 Max – a measure of how much oxygen a person’s body can use during exercise – is average for a three-hour, 30-minute marathoner. (His personal best is two hours and 41 minutes, but most of his runs are slower.) His anaerobic threshold, the point at which lactic acid starts to accumulate in the muscles, is good, but not exceptional.

And so science alone cannot explain Young’s ability to run and run. His mindset may. Kipps notes that Young never shows long-term concerns; he is always enjoying the moment. “It’s like kids who don’t know danger or fear – they have no limits. That only comes later. Rob has a brain that does not all allow him to say: I cannot do that,” Kipps says.

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There are also pictures of Rob in a lab:

Read more:

Oh boy Robbie and Dr. Kipps.

This really does not look good for you guys.

I think you Brits are in really big trouble now.

What fun!!!

His personal best is not 2:41

Post me a link to the official results on that race if I'm wrong

Look at these excerpts from the article.

Robbie gets the DISTANCE OF A MARATHON WRONG!!!

“She took my bet and the next morning I got up in the early hours and drove to a certified track in Richmond and did the whole 26-mile, 365-yard course.

“I had only done the odd fun run before that so it was a bit of struggle but I felt strong enough to do the same the next day, and the next, and the next. It sort of snowballed from there.”

26 miles and 385 yards Robbie!! Sorry. Try again.

Dr Kipps said: “Rob is a phenomenon. His ability to run marathons day after day is astonishing. He is rewriting the textbooks.”

Daniel E Lieberman, Professor of Biological Sciences at Harvard University in the US, said: “Rob is one of the most extraordinary athletes I have ever measured.

“His running form is exquisite.”

WTF?!!! What are they talking about?

Robbie is NOT rewriting any textbooks. He is not a phenomenon Dr. Kipps.

Robbie is NOT one of the most extraordinary athletes ever measured.

(Robbie is a 3:30 marathoner…maybe 3:07... but I doubt it).

And Robbie finishes with:

GET set to think up a new running challenge for Rob – he has appealed for Sun readers to come up with his next big project and is looking for innovative and exciting ideas to help him boost his charity fund.

He said: “I thought about running around the world but that’s too boring and it’s been done, so I’m looking for something really challenging and special. (He can't bring an RV around the world!)

“I’m looking for something impossible – like running across the North Pole.”

Email your suggestions to:

features@the-sun.co.uk

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Oh boy.

Ive been informed to expect a press release from Skins announcing it's 2 person panel in the next couple days.

The article and Robbie state that his PR is 2:41.

I am not stating that I think that Robbie has a PR of 2:41.

You have poor reading comprehension.

That is not a surprise.

rjm33 wrote:

(Robbie is a 3:30 marathoner…maybe 3:07... but I doubt it).

I doubt he's a 3:07 marathon runner right now, but at the London Marathon in April 2015, the evidence fully supports that time. He can be seen in the video coverage off the Blue start ( despite having a red start number ), he shows each 5km split time in the results, the official photos at 6, 12, 19, 23 and 26 miles ( along with similar paced runners ), and plenty of public photos and videos. There's even photos of him stopped at the Lucazade supporters group at mile 24, so his time would likely have been faster without that ( though I doubt he stopped for more than a couple of minutes ).

I have access to parts of the Google Book and the Amazon preview. I can search for keywords.

Did you try the different Amazon websites? .com, .co.uk, .de etc.

His London 2015 marathon has a 17:31 5K split.

Wow! Great work.

Exactly. This is evidenced by the fact that he registered a website in 2011, he created the MarathonMan Facebook page two days after his first marathon...

In 2015 London Marathon he was in much better shape than the porker who started the farcical run across the US.

OK. I have no problem with that time. It is a lot better than many of his other marathons. Robbie's 46.6 mile ultra…one race on one day…was at an average 9:42 mile pace.

It does not change the conclusion:

Robbie is a liar and is not a world champion or a world record holder at anything other than the world record for lies.

Dr. Kipps is a new discovery in this story.

Exactly. I agree 100%.

Why does the "Marathon Man UK" name start at the office of Dr. Kipps?

Anyone?

OK. We are still waiting for an answer.

While we wait let's take another look at the schedule of a World Champion and World Record Holder:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarathonMan_UK/media/grid?idx=13

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarathonMan_UK/media/grid?idx=1

Oh boy.

Dick Puke wrote:

Ive been informed to expect a press release from Skins announcing it's 2 person panel in the next couple days.

Looking forward to that. And their findings. And Jaimie's watercooler blog post following their findings.

World Champion is my new job. wrote:

OK. We are still waiting for an answer.

While we wait let's take another look at the schedule of a World Champion and World Record Holder:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarathonMan_UK/media/grid?idx=13https://mobile.twitter.com/MarathonMan_UK/media/grid?idx=1

Oh boy.

Please stop, I can't look at that con artist mug anymore

Skins problem wrote:

Dick Puke wrote:

Ive been informed to expect a press release from Skins announcing it's 2 person panel in the next couple days.

Looking forward to that. And their findings. And Jaimie's watercooler blog post following their findings.

I wonder if Jaimie (CEO of SCAMS) will turn out to be the next Barb McKeever.

Too stupid to remove the sticker:

RYinvestigator wrote:

Skins problem wrote:

So Rob's wikipedia page still lists his 5k PR as 15:56. I recall on this thread we had it pinned down to about 18:55. Rob's local parkrun is Richmond and I presume athlete Robert HP Young is Rob. His 5k PR is listed there as 20:01. I know Kev and other supporters say that Rob just runs these 5ks for fun, as part of his daily marathons but it would be good if Rob turned up at the parkrun and lowered his PR to 17:XX. That would impress me more than any of his obscure multi-day ultramarathon records.

http://i.imgur.com/UufJ0sj.jpg

His London 2015 marathon has a 17:31 5K split.

Yes, that's right. Good 5k split Rob. I'll revise my satisfaction to that of seeing him run 16:XX at his local parkrun. After all, his strava best estimated 5k effort is 15:55 from 4 weeks ago. Surely a 16:59 is easy if fresh Rob? Come on, have a go!

rjm33 wrote:

Exactly. I agree 100%.

Why does the "Marathon Man UK" name start at the office of Dr. Kipps?

Anyone?

That's easy. Improbable fiction involving the word " marathon " always has the letters " kip " in it.

Kip itself has become part of the vernacular, as in " I kipped the course "

Just another coincidence? I think not.

Rob quits his career as a runner and becomes a race director!

http://imgur.com/qVDXcj5

Follow the money!

Outside Magazine:

"Litton, who had a knack for appearing in race photos at the start and end of marathons, but not so much in between, is the subject of hundreds of LetsRun threads which, taken together, paint a portrait of a pathological fabulist. Crowdsourcing the investigation of Litton’s vast race history led to the astonishing revelation that the one race he allegedly had won outright, the West Wyoming Marathon, never actually took place. Litton had, in a sleight of hand worthy of Keyser Söze, created a race website and entire cast of fictional participants"