Robert Young fakes run across America

Investigator wrote:

Rob Young cheats wrote:

And of course, this where LRC presents the "missing" strava data to Jaime Fuller so that he won't be deceived by Rob's trickery.

In that vein, I just made this:

http://i.imgur.com/BFMvWeG.jpg

I think I'll add a post to

http://ryinvestigation.blogspot.com

so everything about that incident is in one spot.

Excellent!

Ukrunner777 wrote:

Stravaman wrote:

Got some numbers? Screenshots?

It's at 59590...has dropped by about 50 or so since yesterday. Not many but it will do for now.

Gross. His fanboys just never stop. Want to throw up reading their fawning.

Julia Wellings

Big hugs Rob, you don't need to prove yourself to anyone. We all already know how incredibly amazing you already are. Really wish we could be there in person to support you. Please let us know if you need anything at all. Big hugs to you Joanne and family xxx

Jan Turton

It makes me vexed that you feel you have to. Rob you are an inspiration & amazing at what you do. Don't let these idiots knock you down. You have shed loads who believe you & believe in you. Haters & negativity will always be around just have to try to smile & wave🙌🏻🙌🏻

Susan Hughes

Let the haters hate. Do this for you and stick your fingers up at them as you pass.

Except you won't because you're so bloody nice you would probably hug them if you saw them.

Which is the best way to be.

Well done Rob

Tracey Wiffen Good for you but you have nothing to prove x let's see how many join you

Not a Strava Expert wrote:

Any chance Strava keeps data backup even though these asshats deleted the files? Anyone have friends at Strava?

I'm near certain that their web server logs would capture IP addresses from which every upload takes place. Getting them to analyze those server logs is another questions altogether.

Perhaps someone can reach out to Strava and beg them to preserve those logs.

Rob Young cheats wrote:

Investigator wrote:

In that vein, I just made this:

http://i.imgur.com/BFMvWeG.jpg

I think I'll add a post to

http://ryinvestigation.blogspot.com

so everything about that incident is in one spot.

Excellent!

Thanks. Oops got some simple math there wrong and perhaps I'll add another Strava screenshot snippet for proof, but that's the idea.

Not a Strava Expert wrote:

Any chance Strava keeps data backup even though these asshats deleted the files? Anyone have friends at Strava?

Try tweeting your concerns to these two Twitter accounts maintained by Strava:

@StravaSupport

@StravaEng

I would think that the @StravaEng group would readily have the skills and tools to figure it out.

normalized wrote:

Not a Strava Expert wrote:

Any chance Strava keeps data backup even though these asshats deleted the files? Anyone have friends at Strava?

I'm near certain that their web server logs would capture IP addresses from which every upload takes place. Getting them to analyze those server logs is another questions altogether.

Perhaps someone can reach out to Strava and beg them to preserve those logs.

These tech companies take a pretty big stand on privacy. See recent Apple v. FBI. It opens the floodgates once there's one incident of "we just gave away someones personal info". I doubt this would ever happen. Not for Rob Young. A subpoena for a terrorists planned routes or something - mayybe.

RYinvestigator wrote:

Stravaman wrote:

Got some numbers? Screenshots?

Right now he has 59,590 likes.

Earlier today, he had 59,621 likes according to the Google Cache.

On June 4 he had 59,085 likes.

It's great work uncovering the doctored data, but his fanboys aren't getting to hear about this.

Keep posting your findings on his page.

Getting his fans to realise what he is is really important.

Look at the mongs .------------

Mike Tucker

What the hell is it with the doubters? Everything you've done can be proved and verified. There are very few people on this planet that could do what you do. I think you are nuts lol but in a fabulous way. I have no idea how you do it but I absolutely get it and love it

Jude Allen

Sorry you have to do this but keep strong and keep running. You're a million time time life changer

Marie Sullivan

I really am losing all faith in humanity if there is a need for you to have to justify yourself.

Paul Mccarthy

no decent person ever doubted you !

Julian Blair

Keep up the great work Rob. Don't be effective by Internet assassins

Julia Wellings I can feel your hurt Rob, you honestly do not have to justify yourself to anyone. These haters are jealous of you and are negative minded. Please do not let them play games with your head, they are trying to get to you. Don't let them. Stay strong and focused xxx

iBelieveInRob wrote:

A thousand trolls can't beat Rob. He'll win this little battle on his way to greatness. SKINS won't be so stupid that they'll let this genuine runner and human being leave them.

Time to give it up, trolls.

Hi lame troller that can't even bother to put in the effort to troll well, how is your day going?

It's frustrating, but useless. Those people are like anti-vaxxing flat earthers. Plus they seem to have someone watching 24/7 and scrubbing comments within seconds.

Agreed. Putting the "scrubbed" Strava data on his FB page would be great, if I wasn't blocked too. I liked Rachel's post asking how Rob ran 5:34 min/mile pace going up almost 1000ft elevation on May 20th.

Rob's fans are so blind.

- Was the cadence and HR data scrubbed from all his Strava runs, even from those in his "sandbox"? Because I saw a screenshot that said "device: TomTom" and I would assume that runs coming straight from his watch can't be scrubbed?

- Do all his runs use GPS data, so no manual mapping like he did for his first 3 marathons (MapMyRun)?

- How many miles are missing on Strava?

- Did he really disable the FlyBy function?

Investigator wrote:

normalized wrote:

I'm near certain that their web server logs would capture IP addresses from which every upload takes place. Getting them to analyze those server logs is another questions altogether.

Perhaps someone can reach out to Strava and beg them to preserve those logs.

These tech companies take a pretty big stand on privacy. See recent Apple v. FBI. It opens the floodgates once there's one incident of "we just gave away someones personal info". I doubt this would ever happen. Not for Rob Young. A subpoena for a terrorists planned routes or something - mayybe.

More people should tweet this:

@StravaEng Possible fraudulent WR attempt needs your skills to bust. LetsRun.com "Robert Young fakes run across America"

How dare you! I'm no brain-washed globalist or a member of Rob's fan club. The earth is flat, water doesn't flow uphill or curve.

normalized wrote:

Investigator wrote:

These tech companies take a pretty big stand on privacy. See recent Apple v. FBI. It opens the floodgates once there's one incident of "we just gave away someones personal info". I doubt this would ever happen. Not for Rob Young. A subpoena for a terrorists planned routes or something - mayybe.

More people should tweet this:

@StravaEng Possible fraudulent WR attempt needs your skills to bust. LetsRun.com "Robert Young fakes run across America"

Don't waste your time. Strava or TomTom will never release his data, unless a court orders them to do so, because of his privacy.

It is better to tweet to SKINS or Lucozade, their CEO's, to Dustin or Michael... They have to feel the pressure.

Some questions wrote:

- Was the cadence and HR data scrubbed from all his Strava runs, even from those in his "sandbox"? Because I saw a screenshot that said "device: TomTom" and I would assume that runs coming straight from his watch can't be scrubbed?

- Do all his runs use GPS data, so no manual mapping like he did for his first 3 marathons (MapMyRun)?

- How many miles are missing on Strava?

- Did he really disable the FlyBy function?

-Yes, I believe so. Don't know why the difference in "Device". Maybe one went through another conversion or something.

-Yes

-He's posted 13xx miles out of ~2100

-No, I can see fly-bys

Investigator wrote:

Rob Young cheats wrote:

Excellent!

Thanks. Oops got some simple math there wrong and perhaps I'll add another Strava screenshot snippet for proof, but that's the idea.

OK updated:

RYinvestigator wrote:

normalized wrote:

More people should tweet this:

@StravaEng Possible fraudulent WR attempt needs your skills to bust. LetsRun.com "Robert Young fakes run across America"

Don't waste your time. Strava or TomTom will never release his data, unless a court orders them to do so, because of his privacy.

It is better to tweet to SKINS or Lucozade, their CEO's, to Dustin or Michael... They have to feel the pressure.

I'm not suggesting Strava Engineering release the data. I'm suggesting they internally apply data analysis to the data to determine if it is fraudulent. It is easy for them to do so.

Strava has a history of addressing fraud. See:

normalized wrote:

I'm not suggesting Strava Engineering release the data. I'm suggesting they internally apply data analysis to the data to determine if it is fraudulent. It is easy for them to do so.

Strava has a history of addressing fraud. See:

https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918197-Flagging-a-false-or-incorrect-Segment-time

Yes but wouldn't that require looking at parts of activities that were cropped, private activities, etc - invading privacy? Worth a shot, I'm just skeptical.

Guy with a TomTom account who posted yesterday - does that summary dashboard display MOVING time or ELAPSED time for the activity? Thanks.