Robert Young fakes run across America

very interesting! As someone else noted, the tracks for RY on foot are very wobbly, and stick to the side of the road; whereas RY running 6-minute miles is very smooth and often right down the center. Smooth is probably to be expected but it's easy to pick out when you're looking for it. And yes, there's that button hook at the transitions between the wobbly and the straight lines. It's fairly easy to put together a story here. For example:

Look at mile 2.5 to 4, leaving Flagstaff, AZ, it looks like he is on foot (wobbly line), then at mile 3.0 he gets in the RV. They are still in the Flagstaff urban area, and they get a quarter of a mile, stop, then RY walks around the vehicle, gets back in, goes another half mile to 3.6, and comes up to a Cocono Travel Center (Google Streetview:

), and he gets out and runs by. Then, clear as day at mile 4.0, there' a button hook, and from there on out it's quick. Pace ranges from 4:40 to 6:25 for the next two miles. And this is pretty much the start of some really epic "running" through northern Arizona...

I tried to screencap the different sections above. Probably hard to follow since they are in a different order, but hopefully it makes sense. I did a mouseover on the part of the run (bottom) that shows the pace in context with the rest of the run. When you mouseover a location in the graph on the bottom, a blue dot shows in the map view where that pace was being recorded.

Look at Magness providing his "expert opinion" while calling letsrunners trolls....uh stevo that data you are analyzing wouldn't exist without these trolls you twerp.

I see a simpler explanation that doesn't involve cheating. We know he was running behind the RV, so he needed a way to tell the driver he was changing pace. So he would simply run up to the front, wave through the windshield for the driver to either slow down or speed up, and then circle around to the back again.When he was walking/jogging, he was on the shoulder for safety's sake. But at a faster pace he could risk being out in the roadway where there was a smoother and less littered surface.It's all very logical when you presume innocence instead of guilt.

[quote]rekrunnner wrote:

It's all very logical when you presume innocence instead of guilt.

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What you ascribe to "logic" most people would attribute to some weird mental condition, perhaps an addiction to various of Rob's bodily fluids, preventing you from seeing what any sane person does.

So he runs sub-6:00 pace over mountains, that seems very plausible.

For whatever reason I can still post to his FB so I did.

rekrunnner wrote:

I see a simpler explanation that doesn't involve cheating. We know he was running behind the RV, so he needed a way to tell the driver he was changing pace. So he would simply run up to the front, wave through the windshield for the driver to either slow down or speed up, and then circle around to the back again.

When he was walking/jogging, he was on the shoulder for safety's sake. But at a faster pace he could risk being out in the roadway where there was a smoother and less littered surface.

It's all very logical when you presume innocence instead of guilt.

You must be joking right? You have to be. Do you understand what the chart is showing? He literally backtracked and wasted energy all for the purpose of telling the drive to go from ~6:00 pace to ~11:00 pace?!?

So... Someone is trying to run like 3000 miles and they would stop and turnaround and retrace their steps? In your scenario he speeds up like what, 5:30 pace? Then tells the RV to slow it down to like 11:00 minute pace, then he reverses course, runs the other way, flips around to continue run? That is a pretty good one! Standard Operating Procedure for SuperRob.

Can someone put in google drive or something, all of Robert's strava activities? Would be even cooler to organize in folders by "mirrors Rob's account", "deleted activities", "modified activities" or something.

I'd like to make a chart of his "critical mean maximals":

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_fsmKZ8LIVNk/Sdu0-ZiRZ_I/AAAAAAAACI4/UNYvu0r9A9M/s800/screenshot.png

Best speeds over times ranging from 1s to many hours.

Tried with the RV data but software won't take such shitty sampling.

Oh boy. You actually registered the name. The real 'rekrunner' troll has his own personal rekrunnner troll now. He is very upset that so many people can't tell the difference and he alerts them.

I can tell the difference.

The real rekrunner has posts that go on for about 30 pages of absolute nonsense.

Your posts are not long enough or as much complete drivel.

You just need more practice.

Please practice, practice, and practice!

Well done.

They already told us how Rob would communicate with the driver to let them know he was changing pace - it was with his flashlight. So your simple explanation is wrong.

It's all very logical when you actually look at the evidence presented and arrive at the conclusion that he cheated.

runnerrachel wrote:

They already told us how Rob would communicate with the driver to let them know he was changing pace - it was with his flashlight. So your simple explanation is wrong.

It's all very logical when you actually look at the evidence presented and arrive at the conclusion that he cheated.

I am so entertained thinking of him sitting around, uploading files of RV riding, checking them thoroughly, setting them to "public" and thinking "mwahahah, they'll never know". I'm a little more hopeful today that this is going to end pretty badly for him...

If you think this guy was slogging up hills at easily sub 6mm pace hour after hour you have lost any remaining credibility you had on this board.

I have uncovered the whole deal. This thread was a distraction. Our glorious OP is the one with RV-assist:

http://imgur.com/WuMpuXR

. Dude does long runs at near Rob Young pace too. I saw a pic of him in a Jimmy Johns kit (love that place). Time to start blowing up Mr. John's blog with comments?

;)) Solid running Asher

Robbie is coming here to the forum to find out what he needs to delete and change since all the data and analysis is HERE!

I remember the night this thread started. I saw about 17 posts and didn't even read any of the posts. I said to myself "It is probably nothing. If it is nothing the thread will die out. If it is something there will be over a hundred posts tomorrow."

The next day there were a hundred posts and I started following the thread. It is now over 400 pages long.

I have found the thread even more entertaining since Robbie quit.

(How could a World Champion like Robbie just QUIT?)

Then the analysis and research into Robbie's entire life history on the internet picked up momentum. The Guardian published a story on RobbieTeamFake.

The data people here already have all of the data that Robbie wants to delete.

The data people also have already done analysis, graphs, charts,

screenshots, etc.

I really think Robbie's EPIC World Champ Liar Charity Fraud Scam could be made into a movie.

I am sure we would all go see it.

Could Johnny Depp play Robbie?

Or Crocodile Dundee?

Or ???

For genuine, surefire, Hollywood blockbuster entertainment, Woody Allen should play Rob. There seems to be a lot of overlap between their equally delusional fanbases.Plus, the romance scenes would write themselves.

Has anyone started a "ukmarathonmanfakerunner" Facebook account yet??? Then all the information could be posted on there.

GoldenCheetah wrote:

runnerrachel wrote:

They already told us how Rob would communicate with the driver to let them know he was changing pace - it was with his flashlight. So your simple explanation is wrong.

It's all very logical when you actually look at the evidence presented and arrive at the conclusion that he cheated.

I am so entertained thinking of him sitting around, uploading files of RV riding, checking them thoroughly, setting them to "public" and thinking "mwahahah, they'll never know". I'm a little more hopeful today that this is going to end pretty badly for him...

Perhaps not too badly. On Facebook he's now promoting the charity angle (running for the kids). None of the public strava uploads are physically impossible - 72 minute hm splits etc. He rarely races short events all out so his Facebook fans can say that's not impossible for a chap with a 68 half marathon PR. Heck, he may be able to race a half in 65 minutes if he took short distances seriously. Anyway 65 isn't that quick when the World Record is 58 and change. He satisfied all the Guiness WR requirements etc etc. Jaimie's investigation won't find anything amiss with the strava data. What's needed is CCTV of him hopping in the RV and the RV continuing on at 9mph.

Its not a charity angle, its a economical/ pride angle.

Charity is about sharing the children true value as:

telling the truth

admitting the lie

...

It s worth every single donated dollars.

My name is Albert. I sat in the back of the support van (sometimes in my underwear due to the heat) my role was to feed Rob. He would lay there, as I spoon fed him yoghurt, soup and porridge. Very difficult in a moving van....a van I am still locked inside! Please send help. And remember, "if you was me and I was you would you be me being me or would you be you being me all confused"

Not sure if mentioned before but check out Skins Wikipedia- they have been involved in misleading and deceptive conduct before with respect to sponsorship and advertising claims.