UKAD is ready to fight any attempt by WADA to seize its stock of Sir Mo Farah’s urine and blood samples

Is it possible WADA is trying to retest his samples knowing nothing has changed and UKAD knows this and wants to hang onto the samples until a more robust test is available?

larkimm wrote:

Personally I'd like to have seen a quote from Mo saying something along the lines of "I'm leaving it up to UKAD, but they know they have my consent to release my samples if necessary as I've nothing to hide", but Basement Dweller has it right here. The article sets out why UKAD are reluctant to share the finite resource of these samples - and UKAD has shown over a long period of time that it has no difficulty in making findings against dopers.

Mo Farah says he is 'happy' for any anti-doping body to re-test his samples

Apologies bbc article didn’t bring the link over.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/51196920

If Kenya or Ethiopia ever refused such a request, Letsrun would blow up so badly that the website would shut down due to overwhelmed servers

While Kenya is working hard to make sure that athletes are available for testing and that dopers are heavily sanctioned, the UK and USA are busy defending dopers and coming up with lousy excuses like the ones on this thread and other bogus excuses like tainted meat. If I ever hear someone calling for Kenya to be banned I might vomit. Jemima Sumgong was banned for 8 years and nobody in Kenya fought the ban. UK is fighting tooth and nail to protect a known doper.

He’s not a known doper. People believe he’s doped but nobody has presented any direct evidence of it. Kara Goucher didn’t say he doped and she didn’t hold back.

The reasoning of there not being any new test so why waste the samples repeating a test that found him clear before makes sense.

Lb31 wrote:

Doping Nopers wrote:Britain is a third world country

How so?

living conditions: look at their houses

health care: look at their teeth

economy: do they make anything that you want to buy?

Doping Nopers wrote:

Lb31 wrote:

How so?

living conditions: look at their houses

health care: look at their teeth

economy: do they make anything that you want to buy?

And yet somehow, population health and life expectancy both higher than the US. Mind you, that's true of plenty of third world countries.

Basement Dweller wrote:

I think it’s fair to assume that they have been retested since.

Why would that be fair to assume? UKAD isn't going to retest samples without proper cause.

Mo Farah became a global super star under a coach who has just received a four year doping ban. The Aden association aside, it is not unreasonable to suspect that he was also involved in doping. In these circumstances, the best way for a clean Mo Farah to shut up his detractors is to have his sample retested. WADA requests it. What other reason could you possibly need.

Joplas wrote:

While Kenya is working hard to make sure that athletes are available for testing and that dopers are heavily sanctioned, the UK and USA are busy defending dopers and coming up with lousy excuses like the ones on this thread and other bogus excuses like tainted meat. If I ever hear someone calling for Kenya to be banned I might vomit. Jemima Sumgong was banned for 8 years and nobody in Kenya fought the ban. UK is fighting tooth and nail to protect a known doper.

Your comment about being a known doper is as poor a fishing expedition as WADA’s is. 0/10 trolling.

Nicola Sapstead has been pretty clear that she doesn’t want to waste samples repeating the same tests. If she is saying that there isn’t any new test and that’s why she’s not releasing them why are you doubting her? She doesn’t want to waste them repeating a test that found nothing already.

Nicola Sapstead has been pretty clear that she doesn’t want to waste samples repeating the same tests. If she is saying that there isn’t any new test and that’s why she’s not releasing them why are you doubting her? She doesn’t want to waste them repeating a test that found nothing already.

Ultraboy wrote:

She has said they won’t release unless there are new tests so that would indicate that since they were tested last there are not new tests.

That's your interpretation/assumption, that I don't follow. At no point in time did she say that Farah's samples were already re-tested, with newer methods or better detection limits or whatever. I propose that she would have said that, if that's what her concern is. Why wouldn't she have?

Because a) we know there are new tests and

b) her stated reason (that she wants to wait longer) does not apply to the samples that will expire soon,

yet she doesn't want to hand those over either.

Seyta wrote:

If UKAD was really concerned about this, why would they not just draw blood from either

1) Farah during a period when he was not actually on anything

2) Some random clean person to be passed off as Farah's sample

Then use these two to replace the supposedly tainted samples?

Seems a lot easier than just going through this huge mess.

Both would be too risky.

1) a) When is an athlete clean? We have seen them caught in-competition, out-of-competition, in base training, ....

1) b) WADA now, and back then USADA, seem to be asking for all samples, not just one.

2) That would be outright cheating, with a handful of people involved.

The chosen way is quite good because UKAD can sit on the high horse, pretending they are so tough that they would catch Farah better than USADA and WADA, while not risking Farah testing positive. No risk for any whistle-blowing either, just a careful and smart leader.

Mind you, that doesn't even mean that UKAD knows he would test positive, just that they are afraid of it.

Only disadvantage is a few complaining athletes and maybe other NADOs, which will soon be forgotten.

You see already in this thread how many people trust her despite her strange, umm, argument.

Open question to everyone: Has WADA asked UKAD for any samples?

Mo Farah now pulling the old dopers trick of calling for his samples to be retested when he knows its not going to happen

The reporting I’ve seen is that USADA want them, not that there has been a request from WADA.

The reports are that WADA is investigating the athletes and that there have been discussions not that they have requested them yet