Clayton Murphy just ran 1:43.60 at Mt. Sac

There has been a lot of talk about 4x4 splits for Murphy Regional results from a couple years ago had him at 45.95. I believe the following is his fastest verifiable (with video) split. In person I had him around 45.8. Watching the video half a dozen times and getting splits I've ranged from 45.5 to 45.9. You have to watch carefully for when he crosses the 400m start line in lane one at the top of the curve. He gets the baton a step ahead of the 400m conference champ from 2016, Tyler Brown.

You can start watching around 1:12:30

Sorry, start watching closer to 1:12:00.

CoachO wrote:

There has been a lot of talk about 4x4 splits for Murphy Regional results from a couple years ago had him at 45.95. I believe the following is his fastest verifiable (with video) split. In person I had him around 45.8. Watching the video half a dozen times and getting splits I've ranged from 45.5 to 45.9. You have to watch carefully for when he crosses the 400m start line in lane one at the top of the curve. He gets the baton a step ahead of the 400m conference champ from 2016, Tyler Brown.

45.8 is very fast for indoors. People were piling praise on the awesome Brazier for running 45.78 which everyone including TV announcers would say was 45.5. Murphy doesn't credit for speed because he's a white boy. Track and Field News has credited him with 45.3 and then last month listed a 45.8 so they are all over the map with him. It's probably best for everyone to admit the guy is fast even if he's pasty.

The most interesting thing about Murphy's performance yesterday is that he says he hasn't done any speed work since winning the 1k at the Nationals. If that's true then he likely has more than a second he can lop off by summer. On top of that is that no one really knows if he will be pursuing the 800 this summer or if his coaches feel he's ready to devote more time to the 1500. He's probably a year or so away from being able to take on handle the best at 1500 in a fast race but I have no doubt his PRs in the 1500/mile will eventually leave Centro's PRs in the dust. Centro will probably dip under 3:30 but Murphy seems to have the blend of speed and strength that past WR setters have. He may never end up winning Gold in the 1500 in a very slow race but he will run some very fast times. (Not attacking Centro's win in Rio, he beat a great field, period)

Where Brazier, Berian, and Murphy are at a disadvantage is in terms of the athletes they face who aren't tested out of season for drugs.

If Clayton Murphy was named Alfred Kiprono everybody in this thread would say he's 100% doping and would be bitching about the lack of drug testing in Kenya.

MAGA!!! wrote:

If Clayton Murphy was named Alfred Kiprono everybody in this thread would say he's 100% doping and would be bitching about the lack of drug testing in Kenya.

No, he would get front page treatment with a huge picture. And cucks like you would continue to feel guilty and bemoan the harassment of E. Africans who have avoided out of season testing for 30 years. Go away you self-hating sissy white boy. Go have a latte at Starbucks - after you check your BLM t-shirt, cuckbeard, fedora, and heavy-rimmed non-prescription dork glasses in the mirror before you leave mom's basement.

unPC wrote:

No, he would get front page treatment with a huge picture. And cucks like you would continue to feel guilty and bemoan the harassment of E. Africans who have avoided out of season testing for 30 years. Go away you self-hating sissy white boy. Go have a latte at Starbucks - after you check your BLM t-shirt, cuckbeard, fedora, and heavy-rimmed non-prescription dork glasses in the mirror before you leave mom's basement.

you forgot the 'white privilege' pin. (yes, these are real things...)

As for murphy, he's amazing but not quite as many would have you believe. He's 22 - with the hair line of a 32 year old - so let's not forget how that worked for our resident baldy Webb or Mr. Derrick... I doubt he will improve like most of you think...

cwarcarblue11 wrote:

How is that denigrating to Brazier? I personally think Brazier is more naturally talented. Super excited about both of them.

but you think Murphy has more #grit and #intangibles right? perhaps a student of running?

Aahpoo wrote:

How long before the nattering boobs start their PED chatter?

Great run for all time, many years ahead of him.

no it was run yesterday, Saturday April 15th.

Yes, I tried it a few times and got 45.9, 45.7, 45.9.

If you freeze the frame as he goes over the start line the clock on the video just ticks on to 1:12.25. If you then freeze the frame as he crosses the line, it just clicks on to 1:13.11, so I think it is 46.0 or slightly faster. Perhaps 45.8/45.9.

What more on gods green earth do you Trumptards want from this dude?Is BACK BABY? Check.But did he look relaxed dropping a 45.X? Check.It doesn't matter what he does for the rest of his career. Already Better than everyone except lagat and rupp.

here we gooo wrote:

unPC wrote:

No, he would get front page treatment with a huge picture. And cucks like you would continue to feel guilty and bemoan the harassment of E. Africans who have avoided out of season testing for 30 years. Go away you self-hating sissy white boy. Go have a latte at Starbucks - after you check your BLM t-shirt, cuckbeard, fedora, and heavy-rimmed non-prescription dork glasses in the mirror before you leave mom's basement.

you forgot the 'white privilege' pin. (yes, these are real things...)

As for murphy, he's amazing but not quite as many would have you believe. He's 22 - with the hair line of a 32 year old - so let's not forget how that worked for our resident baldy Webb or Mr. Derrick... I doubt he will improve like most of you think...

Macdaddy wrote:

What's your definition of "making it"? He's already a world champion, an Olympic qualifier and one of the fastest Americans ever...

Fair enough. I'm talking about marginal improvement at this point. Can he contend for a medal at an major outdoor championship, or we he peak at making the finals?

(Also, come on with the world champion thing. Good for him, he beat all comers indoors, but none of the 7 guys who beat him in Rio were there. So...good job, but he's not the best in the world by any means).

here we gooo wrote:

unPC wrote:

No, he would get front page treatment with a huge picture. And cucks like you would continue to feel guilty and bemoan the harassment of E. Africans who have avoided out of season testing for 30 years. Go away you self-hating sissy white boy. Go have a latte at Starbucks - after you check your BLM t-shirt, cuckbeard, fedora, and heavy-rimmed non-prescription dork glasses in the mirror before you leave mom's basement.

you forgot the 'white privilege' pin. (yes, these are real things...)

As for murphy, he's amazing but not quite as many would have you believe. He's 22 - with the hair line of a 32 year old - so let's not forget how that worked for our resident baldy Webb or Mr. Derrick... I doubt he will improve like most of you think...

what a quality scientific analysis. can you go check eluid kipchoge's hairline and tell us how that is working out?

Here's the race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i4WfuB4pkU

He ran a little extra on the turns. Could be 1:42 if the rabbit wasn't in his way

There was no rabbit, that was Sowinsky

nice time on a short track

The Olympic final was very interesting. While Rudisha is clearly the athletically superior runner, Makhloufi and Murphy run very intelligently as opposed to Bosse and Berian whose strategies seemed totally dependent on what Rudisha did. The new Borzakovskiy?

HardLoper wrote:

Wow, over a second faster than Brazier's world lead (1:44.63). From my reading of the lists this is the fastest non-altitude time EVER in April (and not just by an American as Flotrack mentioned)

I hear it's the fastest ever time in April at Sea level by someone from the USA with the initials CM! Can Donovan Brazier ever match that? I don't think so!