Yeah but why would people get butthurt to the point of cruel and ugly over this I don't understand that. There is no money involved in this and its not exactly a world record on the track serious kind of thing.
Yeah but why would people get butthurt to the point of cruel and ugly over this I don't understand that. There is no money involved in this and its not exactly a world record on the track serious kind of thing.
Vegemight wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/kaihab/posts/10208716705292223LR sleuths, wow, here's one for you. She hiked up the AT, turned around and set the record.......... Now, get to work.
Isn't there also a fastest known time (FKT) for using trekking poles VS not using trekking poles? Believe there is.
Universally understood that trekking poles take days off your time.
agreed wrote:
Yeah but why would people get butthurt to the point of cruel and ugly over this I don't understand that. There is no money involved in this and its not exactly a world record on the track serious kind of thing.
The AT is kind of a big deal. It's the oldest and most well established of the big US trails. It's a big deal. Far more famous than the FKT on the PCT or CDT or others.
Lol, at your money comment. You probably don't realize that when Rosie Ruiz cheated her way to victory in Boston in 1980, there was no prize money at stake. Boston didn't offer prize money til 1986. So why did all those crazy people get upset about Rosie Ruiz? There was no money involved. It was just some road race and not even on the track.
think again wrote:
agreed wrote:Yeah but why would people get butthurt to the point of cruel and ugly over this I don't understand that. There is no money involved in this and its not exactly a world record on the track serious kind of thing.
The AT is kind of a big deal. It's the oldest and most well established of the big US trails. It's a big deal. Far more famous than the FKT on the PCT or CDT or others.
Lol, at your money comment. You probably don't realize that when Rosie Ruiz cheated her way to victory in Boston in 1980, there was no prize money at stake. Boston didn't offer prize money til 1986. So why did all those crazy people get upset about Rosie Ruiz? There was no money involved. It was just some road race and not even on the track.
It's not a big deal. I feel very sorry for you if you think it is.
Neither is the world record on the track
Vegemight wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/kaihab/posts/10208716705292223LR sleuths, wow, here's one for you. She hiked up the AT, turned around and set the record.......... Now, get to work.
This one is simple: No GPS data means no Fastest Known Time, no record, nothing worthy of comment.
Hopefully the girl enjoyed her personal walk in the woods, because that's all it was.
The cigs were a nice sardonic touch.
Move Along Now wrote:
Hopefully the girl enjoyed her personal walk in the woods, because that's all it was.
ahem....... or ride in the car......
think again wrote:
agreed wrote:Yeah but why would people get butthurt to the point of cruel and ugly over this I don't understand that. There is no money involved in this and its not exactly a world record on the track serious kind of thing.
The AT is kind of a big deal. It's the oldest and most well established of the big US trails. It's a big deal. Far more famous than the FKT on the PCT or CDT or others.
Lol, at your money comment. You probably don't realize that when Rosie Ruiz cheated her way to victory in Boston in 1980, there was no prize money at stake. Boston didn't offer prize money til 1986. So why did all those crazy people get upset about Rosie Ruiz? There was no money involved. It was just some road race and not even on the track.
Yeah but I still don't get why you are advocating getting butthurt to the point of getting cruel and ugly and comparing the Boston marathon to an honor system trail hike lol. I thought that was the whole distinction of saying something is an FKT.
Here we go again! Amazing. Kip Litton and Mike Rossi have company.
And the LR hounds are on the scent. Please blow this up big, big, big. Big and ugly.
Here's her YouTube channel, with videos displayed:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCigDepvDV0MVMNq631Vw_XQ/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view=0
Gear Junkie:
"“I had some trail angels leave things along the way like trail magic,†she said. People who knew where I would be by my mileage and left stuff. Calamine lotion for poison ivy. I had stinging nettles, which I thought was poison ivy.â€
She claims to have hiked steadily, sleeping only when exhausted. This equates to just a few hours a day, in two- to three-hour segments.
“Walking all day or night on very little sleep, after so many days and nights, I just couldn’t sleep. I’d walk until I was literally so exhausted that sleep took over,†she said. “I did it by myself. Hoka donated four pairs of shoes. Zpacks donated a shelter, because I didn’t have one on me.â€
She said that she had food drops along the way.
I knew a guy with bipolar who ran 2 businesses and only slept 2 hours a night
When you google "Kaiha Bertollini," the other thread on LR comes up right away. It's actually the second item in organic search:
You know its pretty obvious she didn't do the whole thing, but to me its definitely doable with someone who doesn't need normal sleep. That brings down the pace to something achievable by most everyone need not be talented. That's the intriguing thing about these kind of endeavors, that the longer things go the more talent becomes useless against pure doggedness.
Oh my so sad wrote:
ShooterMacGyver wrote:Great interview with Karl Meltzer the day after his record. Some pretty good stuff in here
http://www.outsideonline.com/2116366/karl-meltzer-sets-appalachian-trail-speed-recordI sort of feel sorry for this guy. His record, which he thinks is one of the biggest moments in his life, stood for less than a day and was broken by someone without all the fancy support.
He reminds me of the guy who always brags about a 3:40 marathon, not realizing that 1000s of men, women, and children do that every year.
Hi there Kaiha Bertollini
agreed wrote:
Yeah but why would people get butthurt to the point of cruel and ugly over this I don't understand that. There is no money involved in this and its not exactly a world record on the track serious kind of thing.
No money? Her "charity" donations go to HER account
http://www.hikeforourlives.org/donate-directlyThis is great. I had missed the RY thread having 100's of posts a day. Now we have this one - :)))))))
When is Ross Tucker going to be hired to investigate? He should be done with his SKINS report by now, and so would have more free time (though he might waste it on Twitter).
They will be conducting their investigation from now until the end of August. SKINS will publish their report and our response to it, including any action we take, by the end of September.
cheater liar for charity wrote:
Oh my so sad wrote:I sort of feel sorry for this guy. His record, which he thinks is one of the biggest moments in his life, stood for less than a day and was broken by someone without all the fancy support.
He reminds me of the guy who always brags about a 3:40 marathon, not realizing that 1000s of men, women, and children do that every year.
Hi there Kaiha Bertollini
It is just a coincidental synchronicity.
Oh yea.
From the spreadsheet estimates here:
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/120840-Kaiha-Bertollini-Real-FKT/page5
it starts to look like: She started out to beat Anish's record by fair means, going along at a pedestrian 30-miles/day or so for two weeks, then while disillusioned with getting Anderson's record by legit means, caught wind of Meltzer's ("that S.O.B.") attempt right ahead of her. Something really snapped and she starts "logging" 50+ mile days (after months already on the trail...right;), with forays up to 80+ miles as she desperately sought to make some sort of "statement" and "impact", not unlike the douche who ran into the Munich '72 stadium ahead of Frank Shorter, or even the Irish "priest" who tackled the Brazilian marathoner in '04.
If she wasn't going to get a record she could try to throw a wrench into the works, in this case Meltzer's efforts, and incidentally smearing all the FKT's ever set on the AT.
Attention gotten, at a frantic cost.
agreed wrote:
think again wrote:The AT is kind of a big deal. It's the oldest and most well established of the big US trails. It's a big deal. Far more famous than the FKT on the PCT or CDT or others.
Lol, at your money comment. You probably don't realize that when Rosie Ruiz cheated her way to victory in Boston in 1980, there was no prize money at stake. Boston didn't offer prize money til 1986. So why did all those crazy people get upset about Rosie Ruiz? There was no money involved. It was just some road race and not even on the track.
Yeah but I still don't get why you are advocating getting butthurt to the point of getting cruel and ugly and comparing the Boston marathon to an honor system trail hike lol. I thought that was the whole distinction of saying something is an FKT.
I'm not arguing that people should get butthurt or cruel or ugly. All I'm saying is an AT record is not a minor thing in the hiking community. In the US, it's probably the most prestigious hiking record, which is why Jurek and then Metzler went after it.
My Boston analogy is not a perfect analogy but it works. Until 1986, Boston offered no prize money. Basically, it was an amateur event with no prize money, not unlike hiking the AT. The winner got a laurel wreath and the acclaim of having won. FKT on the AT gets no money, just the acclaim of being the fastest. If money is all that matters or track records, then the Boston Marathon shouldn't be a big deal either (and to some runners, it isn't).
And btw, back in 1986, the Boston Marathon was on an honor system... there were no chips every 5K. And Rosie Ruiz broke the honor system by crossing the line as first woman without having run all the way from Hopkinton.