Daphne Schippers Swollen Beyond Recognition

8FE wrote:

Remember, she is not a pre-pubescent girl. She is 23/24 years old.

Acne is very rare in pre-pubescent girls.

But fairly common in young post-adolescent women.

When Schippers fails, you can all apologize. Bunch of ignorant fools that don't know jack about track and athletes.

Well,.,. wrote:

We´re still waiting for those acne pictures.

You can read about it on the link to the guardian I posted.

Is that too difficult? Insufficient proof because it's not a picture?

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Well,.,. wrote:

We´re still waiting for those acne pictures.

You can read about it on the link to the guardian I posted.

Is that too difficult? Insufficient proof because it's not a picture?

or here:

So how, if it's the 3rd fastest time is it a world record? The 23-year-old is quietly coming forward as the 'clean world record holder', with the two previous holders both shamed for doping.

Either she is clean and the GOAT, meaning all time, ever. Or, she's another doper beating doped times.

It's terrible the sport is run so poorly there is so little confidence in athlete performances.

Guys believe me, she is cleaner than clean. I am from her inner circle. But hey if you want to think she is dirty because of some acne, that's your right. Just don't expect to be taken seriously by straight thinking people.

And this 8FE guy can come apologize to ME and to Dafne and her family and all her fans when it turns out she is cleaner than clean and just the best of all time.

Deal with it, times have changed.

goatest wrote:

Guys believe me, she is cleaner than clean. I am from her inner circle. But hey if you want to think she is dirty because of some acne, that's your right. Just don't expect to be taken seriously by straight thinking people.

And this 8FE guy can come apologize to ME and to Dafne and her family and all her fans when it turns out she is cleaner than clean and just the best of all time.

Deal with it, times have changed.

I think the acne argument is weak and pointless, which is why I haven't posted about it. (I think she is including testosterone in her program, which can cause acne).

I don't point to acne as evidence because there is much better evidence: the fact that she is faster than known dopers. We also know that she trains in a doping culture of Dutch doping, and is the best athlete in the IAAF's doping culture. It is not possible to be as good as she is, dominating past known dopers and likely current dopers, without being a doper herself.

All of the "I know her" posters want to discuss how she is so special? To be able to pull that off without chemical assistance and seperate herself from the Dutch doping cukture and IAAF doping culture?

Albeit, I have my doubts about Schippers cleanliness, but I have seen some recent pictures of Schippers and her acne does not look that bad and she does not appear to be any bigger than last year. The focus is on Schippers, who was a legit world class sprinter while doing the multis, Elaine Thompson of Jamaica is far more astonishing. Thompson's 200m PR prior to last year was 23.23, now it is 21.66. She basically went from the level of an outstanding H.S. athlete to the 5th fastest women in history. That is a significantly bigger jump in performance than Schippers -or even FloJo made from 1987 to 88. Thompson, like Bolt, Blake, Kerron Stewart, Melaine Walker, Frasier-Price and several other Jamaicans have made these absolutely mind blowing performance improvements in one year. Schippers is just one athlete from one country, amazing breakouts do happen with individual athletes from-time-to-time, but Jamaica shows a pattern. - It is unfair to focus so much on Schippers and not Thompson.

I do not its poor form to speculate after what has happend in pro sports and the general culture of pro running. I mean Lance and Marion never tested positive.

IMO there is no doubt that she and all other elite runners use PEDs. And it has been going on since the 90s. There is not one record that is clean. And probably the top 20 in every event has used something.

And I challege her and other athletes to release their endocrynology test or do a carbon ratio isotope test. I'll put down $10,000 against all of them to a pass test designed by myself and others not the joke by WADA.

We can run the test through Letsrun. Contact letrun and they will contact me, I'll bring the $ and so can they.

I will get no takers.

Welcome to anti-white Letsrun, where Dibaba's coach can be found with hundreds of doping needles and vials of drugs, but Dibaba is clean as a whistle.

But this white girl has, sorta, kinda, i think i might see some acne! she must be a drug cheat!

Well, to be fair, while she beats a lot of dopers, she doesn't (yet) beat all dopers (like G. Dibaba did), let alone beating them by a large margin (like Bolt did).

Correct. I am under the permise that theyALL take at the elite level, so the best is still winning.

No the best responder is probably winning. When Ben Johnson was a junior his results were middling at the regional level. Without drugs he would have been just another guy on the Canadian national team.

Maybe he just started later. Meaning the guys beating him were already taking, and he was not, then when the playing field was even he started winning.

Then again, drugs react different for each person. So maybe his drop in time elevated him to the best. My general point is you cannot be elite without using PEDs. Didn't he come in 3rd or 4th at the Oly in 84 and he claims it was natrual 10.2, Then the drop to sub 10... 9.87or /9.83 in Rome. and Hgh was new on the scene.

It seems there is something new on the scene. All the sprinters are staying smaller than before. I mean they are still big, but not like before when all you had were test. based drugs. Bolt still puts on 30lbs in 6 months,it even on film and people don't notice. You can seem him in Youtube he is so skinny, in Jan/Feb then BOOM full of muscles by the Olys. And faster.Its so laughable.

Triple jump, maybe decathlon and at a stretch pole vault are the only clean records. Sad isn'the it?

Mope Dealer wrote:

Triple jump, maybe decathlon and at a stretch pole vault are the only clean records. Sad isn't it?

My bloody Android tablet is killing me today, it keeps adding extra words to existing words.

Their coaching circle is producing at the highest level of any group on the planet... clean. Times have indeed changed, and development is understood better than ever. Great job. See you in Eugene.

goatest wrote:

Guys believe me, she is cleaner than clean. I am from her inner circle. But hey if you want to think she is dirty because of some acne, that's your right. Just don't expect to be taken seriously by straight thinking people.

And this 8FE guy can come apologize to ME and to Dafne and her family and all her fans when it turns out she is cleaner than clean and just the best of all time.

Deal with it, times have changed.

Ryry wrote:

Fast from a very young age. Normal and consistent progressions. Multi-sport athlete who is now concentrating on two events. One she didn't get to run on a regular basis because of the hep. Clean reputation for the coaches. As for her acne her family all have issues with there skin. Which, certainly must be embarrassing. She gets tested a lot and now with biological passport she would have been busted or seen a steep decline in performance like Jamaicans.

Biological passport is designed for blood doping, I don't think it detects steroids use...

Bolt has put on 30 pounds of muscle this year? What planet are you on?

When I played football, one off season I hit the gym, ate protein afterwards, and lo and behold put on muscle. The fact that you improve or add muscle is not necessarily a sign of doping. You CAN improve, you know.

by the way her skin has never looked better ...

but now faster than ever and say its steroids .....

absolutly cento per cento she is doping but

not like yester year steroid enabled , yes maybe testosterone but thats it

if anything her hormones are more balanced and skin better

due to peptide and making her skin more baby like , babies do what

alot of growing ..................

you know the peptide ,you know the name . igf-1 lr3

tesosterone and this new mildronate alpha

that dozen or so top nike athletes have hands on.