Soo... What ever happened to the Doping Allegations against Salazar, Rupp, and the NOP?

Egor wrote:

Truth..... wrote:

Not only that, I believe he was mqgnesses as well! Fact that he and Kara both left out conveniently. Lock them up already.

No dr brown is NOP's doctor. Innocent Salazar's personal discovery.

May 2006: Doctor diagnoses Oregon runner [Rupp] with thyroid deficiency

Rupp was 18 when his illness was "discovered" by Dr. Salazar and "confirmed" by "everyone-needs-thyroid-meds" Dr. Brown.

THIS is correct wrote:

Egor wrote:

No dr brown is NOP's doctor. Innocent Salazar's personal discovery.

May 2006: Doctor diagnoses Oregon runner [Rupp] with thyroid deficiency

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?id=2433362

Rupp was 18 when his illness was "discovered" by Dr. Salazar and "confirmed" by "everyone-needs-thyroid-meds" Dr. Brown.

But didn't Kara introduce Dr. Brown to Salazar in 2004? At that point he was supposedly already her endocrinologist. So if that is the case, and if people believe that Rupp wouldn't have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism by a doctor other than Dr. Brown (which in itself is extremely speculative), then Rupp might have never gotten that diagnosis if it was not for Kara Goucher.

Is there such a thing as a "legal testosterone supplement"? As far as I know, all testosterone forms are classified as anabolic agents, and thus forbidden. See for example: http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Fight_against_doping/Rules_and_regulations/WADA_Prohibited_List_2010.pdf

rekrunner wrote:

The chart said he was on "testosterone medication". That could mean legal testosterone supplements. That makes it ambiguous.

Chronology? wrote:

But didn't Kara introduce Dr. Brown to Salazar in 2004?

Nope. Read the article link and figure out how determined Rupp had a problem with thyroid.

out *who*

rekrunner wrote:

The chart said he was on "testosterone medication". That could mean legal testosterone supplements. That makes it ambiguous.

The "lab tech" was a medical doctor who knew damn well the difference between some do-nothing vitamin pill and real exogenous testosterone. Do you think the chart would mention that Rupp took Flinstones vitamins too?

THIS is correct wrote:

Chronology? wrote:

But didn't Kara introduce Dr. Brown to Salazar in 2004?

Nope. Read the article link and figure out how determined Rupp had a problem with thyroid.

The ESPN article? There is nothing in there at all that would indicate Dr. Brown was not Kara Goucher's doctor before joining the NOP. That is what I am asking about. What do you mean?

Wrong again.

There is nothing in there at all that would indicate Dr. Brown WAS Kara Goucher's doctor.

There is the fact that Dr. Brown WAS Salazar's doctor.

TestoBoost and AlphaMale are two legal supplements.

casual obsever wrote:

Is there such a thing as a "legal testosterone supplement"? As far as I know, all testosterone forms are classified as anabolic agents, and thus forbidden.

See for example:

http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Fight_against_doping/Rules_and_regulations/WADA_Prohibited_List_2010.pdf

rekrunner wrote:

The chart said he was on "testosterone medication". That could mean legal testosterone supplements. That makes it ambiguous.

If he damn well knew the difference, then I think he would have written unambiguously "testosterone" if that were the case. But he didn't. So I guess you are strongly arguing that since such a mistake would not have been made, it must not be testosterone.Nevertheless, 13 years later, the notation is ambiguous, and could mean "Testoboost, Alpha Male, Tribex or ZMA" as well as "testosterone".

team kenyaaaa wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

The chart said he was on "testosterone medication". That could mean legal testosterone supplements. That makes it ambiguous.

The "lab tech" was a medical doctor who knew damn well the difference between some do-nothing vitamin pill and real exogenous testosterone. Do you think the chart would mention that Rupp took Flinstones vitamins too?

According to Salazar:"... Dr. Jeffrey Brown, a leading endocrinologist introduced to me by Kara Goucher, who was being treated by Dr. Brown before I began coaching her."http://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35523713-alberto-open-letter-part-2

Chronology? wrote:

THIS is correct wrote:

Nope. Read the article link and figure out how determined Rupp had a problem with thyroid.

The ESPN article? There is nothing in there at all that would indicate Dr. Brown was not Kara Goucher's doctor before joining the NOP. That is what I am asking about. What do you mean?

rekrunner wrote:

TestoBoost and AlphaMale are two legal supplements.

The chart states "testosterone" not TestoBoost or AlphaMale. The chart is not in error. Salazar is lying claiming the chart is wrong. His fanboys buy his lies because that is what they want to believe.

Looks like someone paid off WADA, USADA, USATF, and IAAF

Also the army of NOP attorneys unleashed at WADA, USADA, USATF and IAAF to force them to keep silent under threat of massive lawsuits.

I'm not a "fan", I'm a realist. Nothing you just wrote proves to me that any of the NOP athletes are/were behaving outside of legal bounds. Do you believe you're in-the-know? Do you actually know motivations behind anything you wrote there? Are you sure your statements are really accurate? Or are you guessing?

Spend your time in more meaningful ways. I hope the NOP is investigated exhaustively so that the truth of this emerges and the brojos will have to face the fact that they are simply out for blood where there is none to be found.

strawgrasper wrote:

I'm not a "fan", ...

Proving, without reading further, you are a fan.

PS. Watch your punctuation when posting on the other side of the pond, Brit.

Hahahaha. Oh man. Watch the punctuation, says the guy with a name of UR a Fan. I'm not a Brit, by the way.

UR a fan. That one is correct. Don't lie. It's not "nice". Get it?

No, I actually don't get it.