I now see that it may not have been a cheat at all (based on RW article), but runner confusion/exhaustion as one runner moved from the full to the ½.
No matter Caroline, my offer to you is still good.
--ET
I now see that it may not have been a cheat at all (based on RW article), but runner confusion/exhaustion as one runner moved from the full to the ½.
No matter Caroline, my offer to you is still good.
--ET
self promoter ... meet self promoter
SmartRunnr wrote:
seemslikely wrote:That sounds likely. It makes one wonder about her previous BQs.
And also why people are so incredibly obsessed with BQing that they cheat, but that's another topic altogether.
+1
On another topic: who deleted my post congratulating Ms Boller, and why?
I only sent congratulations, and said "Cheaters never prosper". No worries, brojos, that wasn't a shot at Paula. This sucks.
I find it interesting SmartRunnr that you by into this theory on this woman...
Of you read the article it is pretty clear the race director and timing people do not feel she cheated just that she was in a runners fog
Apparently stillman mentality is alive and we'll
Ackley wrote:
Caroline came in 8th at Western States, set a Marathon PR, so cut her some slack.
Yeah well maybe she got in whats-her-name's van.
Yeah, that's the ticket. She was in a jet lagged mental fog and got in the wrong van while changing her shoes at the half way point.
Loofa Dog wrote:
I find it interesting SmartRunnr that you by into this theory on this woman...
Do you mean that Jennings didn't run the marathon? That's quite obvious, isn't it?
Or do you mean that one shouldn't believe that Boller could "shave 68 minutes off her marathon time in two years"? Such improvements are not that unusual in the beginning of a career.
The "Stole My Thunder" comment cracked me up. Once I was running a local 5K and two women in front of me who had been running side by side almost the entire race (and blocking off narrow portions of the course) decided they would cross the finish lines holding hands and arms aloft in victory. So as they approached the finish they joined hands and lifted them in the air. I was close behind them and decided that was the perfect moment to swoop ahead of them and cross the line in front. They angrily told me in the finisher's chute that I "stole their thunder." The good part is that we were all in the same age group and I finished 3rd so I also "stole" their age group medal. I figure I just saved them the trouble of trying to decide which of them would get it.
5K lady wrote:
The "Stole My Thunder" comment cracked me up. Once I was running a local 5K and two women in front of me who had been running side by side almost the entire race (and blocking off narrow portions of the course) decided they would cross the finish lines holding hands and arms aloft in victory. So as they approached the finish they joined hands and lifted them in the air. I was close behind them and decided that was the perfect moment to swoop ahead of them and cross the line in front. They angrily told me in the finisher's chute that I "stole their thunder." The good part is that we were all in the same age group and I finished 3rd so I also "stole" their age group medal. I figure I just saved them the trouble of trying to decide which of them would get it.
LOL. Well done.
Getwiththetimes wrote:
After all, only seven men beat the women's winer at this race.
And if the race organisers did their job correctly those 7 runners should be paid more in prize money than the 8th place runner because they ran faster. Like any other profession, awards in the form of prize money at running races should be related to perfomance only which is in fact very easy to measure- you just need a stopwatch.
Getwiththetimes wrote:
Boston pays $150k to both male and female winners so they're out of touch with your priorities too.
And the Boston race organizers are wrong and behaving in a blatantly sexist manner with this policy. They should be taken to a court of human rights as they are not awarding prize money according to perfomance. The biggest prize should be for the runner who ran the fastest race regardless of whether they are male or female or old or young.
Getwiththetimes wrote:
While we're at it, why don't we eliminate the women's Olympic events - they're 20 min or two seconds or two feet short of the men too.
It would be sexist to eliminate women from competing in the Olympics but these competitions should be equally open to all athletes and all competing athletes should have to attain the same qualifying standard to compete in the Games - being an Olympian should be about having attained an elite level of performance regardless of one's sex. This is the only fair way of organising the competition and would clear up the problem with athletes such a Caster Semenya as they should have the same right as anyone else to compete in the Olympics.
Sorry Ms. Boller the world doesn't care about your hobby jogger lifestyle. One of these housewifes with no other life.[/quote]
I remebered her name when I saw a few articles on her lately and the mean things you siad. Is this the point when you say, I'm sorry for being so rude? #8 at Western States 100, Montrail Ultra Cup Champion, Olympic Trials Qualifier, USA 50K National Champion (Masters AR holder by 6 min and 8 fastest 50K ever run in North America). BTW - she's a pro and that's why she has a website - duh?! BTW- it appears she has a Masters from Cambridge and a law degree from Berkeley - anything smart to say about "housewifes" now? DFL haters get a life, the rest of us are running hard and loving our community of enthusiasts. We'll be waiting for you at the finish line cheering you in - because that's the way we role!
This thread is stupid. Caroline is a wonderful person, a wonderful runner, and anyone saying different is wrongly judging her. She had her moment stolen by a race cheat, and that's WRONG. How would any of you feel if your moment to win your first marathon, your hometown race, was robbed by a cheater? Good for her speaking up about it! Caroline is a mother, a lawyer, a naturalized citizen (qualified for the Olympic Marathon Trials only days after the passing of her Mom), and like a lot of women got into running later in life and is running great as a master's runner. She doesn't deserve to be torn down by a bunch of anonymous, male armchair critics who don't know her.