HardLoper wrote:
Webb is finally going to get his medal!
His medal for the worst tactics to be employed in an international final, ever.
HardLoper wrote:
Webb is finally going to get his medal!
His medal for the worst tactics to be employed in an international final, ever.
porcher wrote:
HardLoper wrote:Webb is finally going to get his medal!
His medal for the worst tactics to be employed in an international final, ever.
That particular medal should be made of tar and feathers.
Link wrote:
How does that work, then? If they weren't on the banned list, can they still be busted for using them?
I think they were on the banned list, but only generically, not specifically.
For example, this is a section for the 2007 WADA's code:
PROHIBITED METHODS
M1. ENHANCEMENT OF OXYGEN TRANSFER
The following are prohibited:
1. Blood doping, including the use of autologous, homologous or heterologous
blood or red blood cell products of any origin.
2. Artificially enhancing the uptake, transport or delivery of oxygen, including
but not limited to perfluorochemicals, efaproxiral (RSR13) and modified
haemoglobin products (e.g. haemoglobin-based blood substitutes,
microencapsulated haemoglobin products).
M2. CHEMICAL AND PHYSICAL MANIPULATION
1. Tampering, or attempting to tamper, in order to alter the integrity and
validity of Samples collected during Doping Controls is prohibited. These
include but are not limited to catheterisation, urine substitution and/or
alteration.
2. Intravenous infusions are prohibited, except as a legitimate medical
treatment.
M3. GENE DOPING
The non-therapeutic use of cells, genes, genetic elements, or of the modulation of
gene expression, having the capacity to enhance athletic performance, is
prohibited.
So does "...won't be competing in Beijing" mean none made it on to teams, or that they won't be ALLOWED to compete in Beijing? If Tomashova is one then the latter would apply, I assume.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
Link wrote:How does that work, then? If they weren't on the banned list, can they still be busted for using them?
I think they were on the banned list, but only generically, not specifically.
For example, this is a section for the 2007 WADA's code:
PROHIBITED METHODS
M1. ENHANCEMENT OF OXYGEN TRANSFER
The following are prohibited:
1. Blood doping, including the use of autologous, homologous or heterologous
blood or red blood cell products of any origin.
2. Artificially enhancing the uptake, transport or delivery of oxygen, including
but not limited to perfluorochemicals, efaproxiral (RSR13) and modified
haemoglobin products (e.g. haemoglobin-based blood substitutes,
microencapsulated haemoglobin products).
M2. CHEMICAL AND PHYSICAL MANIPULATION
1. Tampering, or attempting to tamper, in order to alter the integrity and
validity of Samples collected during Doping Controls is prohibited. These
include but are not limited to catheterisation, urine substitution and/or
alteration.
2. Intravenous infusions are prohibited, except as a legitimate medical
treatment.
M3. GENE DOPING
The non-therapeutic use of cells, genes, genetic elements, or of the modulation of
gene expression, having the capacity to enhance athletic performance, is
prohibited.
Thank you, Mr. Wong. Very helpful
If there were athletes from a wide variety of events that were busted why did they only drop the hammer throw?
Why stop at 8 or 10 years ago, let's go all the way back to 1968 or so??
Cool but this means almost nothing until there are actual names put out! It's like the trailer for a movie that you see in theaters...nobody has seen it but we have a good idea on what it is.
wr potential wrote:
Sky Sports News just said: "We believe that none of the athletes are British".
Well, that's the vaguest thing ever... "We believe" has so much wiggle room. What are they basing this belief on?
wqqqqqqqq wrote:
wr potential wrote:Sky Sports News just said: "We believe that none of the athletes are British".
Well, that's the vaguest thing ever... "We believe" has so much wiggle room. What are they basing this belief on?
In the UK media it generally means, "We've been told off the record." They also use phrases like 'the BBC understands'.
Hi you're a tit
no hammer? wrote:
If there were athletes from a wide variety of events that were busted why did they only drop the hammer throw?
lol
8/10
Barney Fife wrote:
What i don't understand about this "retesting" is how can you retest and maintain that the chain of custody (COC) is still valid?
Because this has all been tried and failed by dopers doping trying to get out of it.
Link wrote:
That said, I can't believe no one's listed the obvious candidate: Radcliffe G WM '05
There are no British athletes on list. Paula was tested and her test is obviously clean #stopthewitchhunt
DDDDDD wrote:
Link wrote:That said, I can't believe no one's listed the obvious candidate: Radcliffe G WM '05
There are no British athletes on list. Paula was tested and her test is obviously clean #stopthewitchhunt
Really?? Where does it say that?
DDDDDD wrote:
Link wrote:That said, I can't believe no one's listed the obvious candidate: Radcliffe G WM '05
There are no British athletes on list. Paula was tested and her test is obviously clean #stopthewitchhunt
OK, but we don't know that for sure, but nice distraction from the other list, is she on that?, we don't know, although Kimmage has virtually spelled it out, because she's keeping quiet, which is unusual for her when there's doping allegations flying around.
The IAAF trying to salvage its image by busting a few dirty dopers from 10 years ago, now we know at least a few of today's dirty dopers will be caught by 2025. That's great.
Bekele is definetly going to be one of them. He actually had a positive test in 2010. The IAAF made a deal with him. He could take a self imposed 18 month ban and the results would remain quiet. Remember after the WC in 09 he had that "mysterious calf injury". Well he was never injured. However him and his camp wanted to make the public think he was injured. He wasn't. The injury NEVER existed. His name I'm sure will be among the 28.
Not if EPO isn't tested here (as Rojo indicated). Probably won't catch Gharib either
Track Fan 1979 wrote:
Bekele is definetly going to be one of them. He actually had a positive test in 2010. The IAAF made a deal with him. He could take a self imposed 18 month ban and the results would remain quiet. Remember after the WC in 09 he had that "mysterious calf injury". Well he was never injured. However him and his camp wanted to make the public think he was injured. He wasn't. The injury NEVER existed. His name I'm sure will be among the 28.
I certainly suspect bekele all along
Wasn't there a mystery in 2011 at daegu where he was injured and came back to run a fast 10000 shortly after