If the internet completely disappeared what would life be like

DiscoGary wrote:

I offer one possible way that might happen, by the hand of government, and people go nuts attacking me and accusing me of being a tinfoil hat wearing crazy...

Liberals will always attack the messenger when they don't understand. And that's most of the time.

Thanks for your contributions.

libs are clueless wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

I offer one possible way that might happen, by the hand of government, and people go nuts attacking me and accusing me of being a tinfoil hat wearing crazy...

Liberals will always attack the messenger when they don't understand. And that's most of the time.

Thanks for your contributions.

Invariably after DiscoGary makes a fool of himself comes this poster who always says something bad about liberals and thanks Gary for his contributions. Strange.

But regarding the topic, couldn't we still communicate with radio waves and just use extremely hard to crack encryption like blowfish or something?

I completely disagree with that hypothesis, as it would be identical to what has already happend with tv, i.e. the corporation selling you the information decides how to twist and revise it to suit their own nefarious purposes.

This is exactly WHY I like the free internet, without any corporate influence all, because we can communicate with people all over the world, and make up our OWN minds about what is really happening and our lives.

On the other hand, having information sold to us, vs completely free, widespread and easily accessible communications system is similar to what happens now with the internet, i.e. MS puts their software on computers, then people ignore it and find their own information on the web, primarily with communication with others.

At least this is how it used to be. The corporations keep infringing and pushing to have the internet by like tv. In some ways they're succeeding and in others they're not.

For me and many others as well, we would simply use the communications system, and not purchase nor use any corporate misinformation. Of course the corporations don't want to have that free choice available.

Remember catalogs? Where you'd look stuff up and buy it over the phone?

Is that what buying porn would be like?

I mean, if I didn't have a porn store nearby.

The foundation of ARPA net is porn, lest you all forget.

Soon we will be able to totally bypass ISPs. There are several open source efforts going on to provide plug-and-play Linux internet gateway connectivity over twisted-pair, dark fiber, milli-wave, and ISM (or WiFi). This will enable ubiquitous peers to attach to the internet backbone by simply calling our local phone company and leasing low cost phone/fiber lines for $1-$5 per month using direct ATM (Asynchrous Transfer Mode) hardware for $5

twisted-pair, dark fiber, milli-wave, and ISM (or WiFi)?

WHAAAAAAT?

Freedom is coming wrote:

Soon we will be able to totally bypass ISPs. There are several open source efforts going on to provide plug-and-play Linux internet gateway connectivity over twisted-pair, dark fiber, milli-wave, and ISM (or WiFi). This will enable ubiquitous peers to attach to the internet backbone by simply calling our local phone company and leasing low cost phone/fiber lines for $1-$5 per month using direct ATM (Asynchrous Transfer Mode) hardware for $5

No. Sorry.

Who provides the run from the aggregation point to your house? You know the telcos and cable company don't like you using "their" polls among other political hurdles. A phone company is not going to give away their last-mile service for a $1-15/month.

If the Internet disappeared, most phone service would die. You could probably call your neighbor if they are in the same local office.

runDirtyrun wrote:

Freedom is coming wrote:

Soon we will be able to totally bypass ISPs. There are several open source efforts going on to provide plug-and-play Linux internet gateway connectivity over twisted-pair, dark fiber, milli-wave, and ISM (or WiFi). This will enable ubiquitous peers to attach to the internet backbone by simply calling our local phone company and leasing low cost phone/fiber lines for $1-$5 per month using direct ATM (Asynchrous Transfer Mode) hardware for $5

No. Sorry.

Who provides the run from the aggregation point to your house? You know the telcos and cable company don't like you using "their" polls among other political hurdles. A phone company is not going to give away their last-mile service for a $1-15/month.

If the Internet disappeared, most phone service would die. You could probably call your neighbor if they are in the same local office.

This seems to make more sense.

Freedom is coming wrote:

Soon we will be able to totally bypass ISPs. There are several open source efforts going on to provide plug-and-play Linux internet gateway connectivity over twisted-pair, dark fiber, milli-wave, and ISM (or WiFi). This will enable ubiquitous peers to attach to the internet backbone by simply calling our local phone company and leasing low cost phone/fiber lines for $1-$5 per month using direct ATM (Asynchrous Transfer Mode) hardware for $5

That's all over the newswires. Ma Bell wants to unload fibers and coppers from the green box on your street corner. You can put whatever you want on it but don;t know how. That's where the opportunity is.

Amazing. A non-running thread that hasn't been deleted.

Enjoy it. It may be the last.

Those who have argued for a running only site have won.

Love it man wrote:

That's all over the newswires. Ma Bell wants to unload fibers and coppers from the green box on your street corner. You can put whatever you want on it but don;t know how. That's where the opportunity is.

Haha. No. They want to crush the telephone worker's labor union AND keep the last mile.

runDirtyrun wrote:

Love it man wrote:

That's all over the newswires. Ma Bell wants to unload fibers and coppers from the green box on your street corner. You can put whatever you want on it but don;t know how. That's where the opportunity is.

Haha. No. They want to crush the telephone worker's labor union AND keep the last mile.

New question:

What would happen to the BROJOS!?

I have been waiting for this day for so long.

I would be MUCH happier.

letsonlyrun wrote:

Amazing. A non-running thread that hasn't been deleted.

Enjoy it. It may be the last.

Those who have argued for a running only site have won.

I thought only running threads were deleted?

Say no to Mah Bell wrote:

Mah Bell has no tarriff over leased copper and fiber. I.E. banned by the Feds. Thus homeowners can put whatever on the leased lines.

After all, the lines and boxes are on our property.

This makes more sense wrote:

Say no to Mah Bell wrote:

Mah Bell has no tarriff over leased copper and fiber. I.E. banned by the Feds. Thus homeowners can put whatever on the leased lines.

After all, the lines and boxes are on our property.

Don't they have easements? They have a license to use your property I thought.

wait what about laws? wrote:

Don't they have easements? They have a license to use your property I thought.

They don't have one from me.