What'd you get on your sat/act and where did you go to college

Wow, my daughter just scored a 34 on her ACT and will be retaking it for a better score. She was told straight out that she won't get into U of M on any scholarship, or MSU. Times have changed and she's not the right color,...yes we were told that by her high school counselor. The moron/trolls on this board will say stop whining...typical, but far from the truth. She's in a tough program in her Michigan High School, is doing very well, but...

sampsonite wrote:

Funny how nearly everyone who has posed so far is either in the 95th percentile if not 99+. Either runners are much smarter than average or we have some serious self selection going on.

1400 / 31

(very high math and science scores, low writing)

Texas Tech, Engineering

Was not recruited but worked my way into a scholarship later.

Recognizer of Brilliance wrote:

rhorhy wrote:

lol no they won't

This ^

They most certainly will not. I just finished putting 3 kids through college. All three had near perfect scores (2340 or higher on SAT). All 3 had several full ride academic scholarship offers from some mediocre state schools. Not one was offered anything from the Harvards, Stanfords, Princetons of the world.

As they say about near perfect scores - that and $2 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

that's a trick answer - the ivies do not offer any merit scholarships, no matter what. I don't know if Stanford does or not. But there are plenty of excellent schools that do offer merit scholarships.

Ivyguy wrote:

dsadasd wrote:

1250/1600

Princeton. I was recruited.

THANK YOU. For years I've been trying to get across to people that getting in to Princeton doesn't *necessarily* mean you're much of a student.

I took an LSAT class with a Princeton undergrad. She was a very nice person--give her that--but just as dumb as a sack of hammers.

But a hell of a tennis player, I'm told.

PS I'm not trying to single out Princeton, either. The situation is much the same at most of the other Ivies. Maybe not so much at Yale, but that's probably about it.

Harvard definitely has a spot for a great athlete/good-but-not-great student. Shoot, they even took my sister-in-law, with her 13xx/1600 SAT--she was no athlete, either.

i'd like to think i'm slightly smarter than a sack of hammers, but my wife might argue the point.

but yes, all sorts of f*ck ups slip through the cracks--legacy admissions, athletes, boarding school types who are fried by the time they finally realize their college ambition.

during harganon's tenure as dean of admissions, as long as you met a certain base standard for scores and grades, you had a chance. it helped being in the athlete pool of applicants, but i also suspect i benefited from my essays and letters of recommendation. i think harganon liked athletes who managed to convey a little personality in their applications. i gathered all of this from a few articles i read about the process.

i'd like to think my four years there made me slightly less of a f*ck up.

i doubt i'd get in now. don't know much about the current process, but i imagine the basic threshold of grades and scores is much higher.

agip wrote:

Recognizer of Brilliance wrote:

This ^

They most certainly will not. I just finished putting 3 kids through college. All three had near perfect scores (2340 or higher on SAT). All 3 had several full ride academic scholarship offers from some mediocre state schools. Not one was offered anything from the Harvards, Stanfords, Princetons of the world.

As they say about near perfect scores - that and $2 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

that's a trick answer - the ivies do not offer any merit scholarships, no matter what. I don't know if Stanford does or not. But there are plenty of excellent schools that do offer merit scholarships.

Dang, a trick answer. Thanks dude, you just made my day.

I am sure that merit scholarships are available at some excellent schools. But if you think that you might land one of these largely on the strength of getting "near perfect" scores then you have a rude awakening coming.

I guess I would also add to that the your SAT score becomes meaningless as soon as you first set foot on campus. One of my classmates, a fellow runner, was graduated with the highest GPA of any athlete on campus. he also scored 1250 on the SAT. VERY hard worker. econ major, which suited him well. the SAT is a predictor of performance to a certain extent, but there are plenty of other variables at play.

this does not in any way refute the idea that there are some pretty dense ivy leaguers.