George Atlas wrote:
The year Reina ran 14:36 it was 4:38 at the mile and a non-favorite pushed the harder middle mile in 4:45 and led until the last 1200 and ended up 6th.
The wet conditions favor runners like Ritz was who go for it, and don't favor kickers, so the pace could well be fast though conditions are not optimal.
It's been pouring rain for about 2 hours now and is supposed to continue all day today. 20% chance of rain tomorrow. The course will be really soggy and slow.
Who is going to "man-up?" What is this? Football?
It'd be about 1000 times more intesting to 99.9% of the population if it was football.
toxic masculinity wrote:
Who is going to "man-up?" What is this? Football?
interview with Grant Fisher today
No one under 15 is correct. Fisher looked like he could have if he had to. Good performance by him, and earns the title of the best high school cross country runner in the country for the 2nd straight year.
WHERE ARE THE HACKER HATERS NOW???????
Excellent race for Hacker. Nice 1-2 finish for the MW.Hacker didn't see a move like Fisher's at NXN. He put 10 seconds on the field in what, 600m?
Shamrockwiz wrote:
WHERE ARE THE HACKER HATERS NOW???????
Well, I was right about Fisher winning by around 10 seconds anyway. This, despite cruising for 2.5 miles. Ah well, track is where they can chase times I guess.Something was clearly wrong with Maton. Sick maybe? He was way back, even at halfway.Hunter and Tamagno both had strong showings as juniors.
here we go wrote:
Fisher 14:43
Maton 14:53
Dressel 14:56
Ostberg 14:59
Hacker 15:03
Hunter 15:05
Mantz 15:08
Armstrong 15:09
Tamagno 15:11
Pollard 15:14
On topic wrote:Back on topic... Who do you think will win boys Footlocker?
Fisher.
Dang it, my troll post actually was correct in terms of how the race played out and how Fisher did. That's not cool.
I look at other race results wrote:
and Cheserek was capable of 14:30, and Verzbicas 14:20. Yet both barely broke 15 their senior year. What you don't understand is that this is a RACE, and the top runners in the field are RACERS. They don't care about times AT ALL. The 4:31-4:20 Fisher race you talked about? It would have been 4:31-4:28 had Fisher not kicked the last 200 in 26 seconds. That's what we'll probably see this year: a few guys up front running ONLY at 15:20ish pace, and then the guys with SPEED kicking the last 600 to get right above 15:00. This ain't Fairyland, where 14:43 grows on trees. It's not happening.
here we go wrote:Fisher is at least 20 seconds faster than last year IF he is giving 100% [and if the race isn't super tactical]. In races where he either went out hard (Portage) to test himself, or had a race plan to make a move at a particular point (MI state meet), he's been 20 seconds faster compared to a year ago. Given that last year he wasn't national champion yet at these races, one could reasonably assume that his performances from his junior year were achieved with more effort than this year. His FLMW 15:00 looked very relaxed, especially as he put 9 seconds on the field in the last 800m.
So in my opinion, he is capable of 14:43 if the race goes out quick. 4:34-4:50-4:50 = 14:43. It isn't unreasonable to believe that a returning champion that has since put down a 4:02.02 mile and a 8:51 (4:31-4:20 with a :26 last 200m) 2 mile can run those splits at Balboa.
As for the others, I believe they can run those times. Now, if they all cruise the first half of the race, or if it's raining, then it all goes out the window.
Hacker had an incredible end to a tough post-season. In the last 6 weeks:
1st at WI state meet (just a few sec off Solinsky's record)
1st at NXN HL regional
10th at FLMW regional
2nd at NXN nationals
2nd at FL nationals
Do you have a list of all boys who've been under 15 at FLN any years?
The Legends of Foot Locker wrote:
My "close to 4:20" comment was actually for the 1983 race, where they went through in 4:22. Matt Giusto won the race in 14:54. Here's a crappy video with some shots from the race (at 19:30 into the video the commentator mentions how fast the pace is..."4:22 first mile"):
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BapIDop7DWk