Does anyone still believe in Global Warming? Have we all finally concluded that it was a hoax?

Al Gore has never flunked any course ever. He withdrew from a graduate program to run for congress. He was given incompletes for those courses. He never flunked anything.

The professor's name you are looking for is Roger Revelle. He continued to accept AGW and advocated for changes in the law to combat it until his death in 1991.

Your statements are lies.

Show me the names.

Another lie.

Where did you dig up this lie? They have said that ships will sail across the North Pole by 2050. The Arctic is definitely melting.

So now your idea is that scientists don't know how to do the simplest part of their jobs. Scientists are really smart people. They know how to take urban thermometers into account and they do.

It's not politics. It's science. You are claiming that there is a huge scientific conspiracy. I say that scientists are just doing their jobs.

You've clearly found the lies you were looking for.

Though I find the back and forth on this topic a little amusing (and a lot boring), I'm already anticipating a situation a few years down the road. By that point it will be clear to pretty much everyone that 1998, though anomalously warm, was NOT the hottest (recorded) year globally.* I'm guessing that the response will be on the order of "Sure it's getting warmer! Earth has always gotten warmer and cooler!"

That is certainly true. Of course, it sidesteps the *rapidity* of the current warming (itself a matter of debate); but more importantly it ignores the realities that

1) Homo sapiens sapiens has only been around for 100,000-200,000 years and has evolved in a much narrower range of temps than Earth has seen in its 4.5-billion years;

2) Human civilization has only been around for (very) roughly 10,000 years--developing in an even narrower temperature band; and

3) Modern-day cities have mostly** been around for only a few centuries, in a period of even less temperature variation, and many (e.g. NYC and London) are in locations that are extraordinarily vulnerable to a rise in sea level.

Ah, well. To paraphrase George Carlin, I'm only here for the entertainment. In the few years/decades I have remaining, doubtless I'll get to see both sides in this argument embarrass themselves (scientifically) many times.

* Previous posts/links in this thread have made clear that it's already been eclipsed twice in more recent years--so much for the "it hasn't warmed since 1998!" canard.

** "Mostly" doesn't mean the same as "all."

Even scientific skeptics agree the earth is warming. It's part of a natural cycle they say.

Only people who can't place Mexico on a map and believe that Jesus had a pet dinosaurm are denying that Global Warming is a phenomenon. Unfortunately that's about 73% of Americans.

Athletics Illustrated wrote:

Actually, the people that believe in Global Warming or "accept" Global Warming often Google search for stories supporting Global Warming and voila! They find what they are looking for.

Now if you take a second and Google search it as a hoax or a lie or untrue or whatever,

Lol, priceless. "Googling something results in confirmation bias - now Google this"

The Earth's temperature is essentially the SAME now as it was in 1998. That is a FACT.

Sally V wrote:The Earth's temperature is essentially the SAME now as it was in 1998. That is a FACT.

hmmmm? wrote:

Sally V wrote:The Earth's temperature is essentially the SAME now as it was in 1998. That is a FACT.

And so...?

Well, it means that the Earth has not warmed in almost 2 decades! And, on another note...after Hurricane Katrina, all Libs predicted many more major hurricanes to hit the US. Well, guess what! We haven't had a major hurricane since Wilma in 2005. A decade!

Sally V wrote:Well, it means that the Earth has not warmed in almost 2 decades!

and so, global warming is a myth you stupid f.ucking moron

patterman wrote:and so, global warming is a myth you stupid f.ucking moron

Ohhhhh aren't you original?!

How old is the earth?

How much does a decade time span compare to the age of the earth?

And how much time have I wasted in pointing this out to you?

Your contribution to this thread is about as useful as bailing bucket in a sinking ship.

hmmmm? wrote:

patterman wrote:and so, global warming is a myth you stupid f.ucking moron

Hmmmm.... I'm the moron? OK, I guess that's possible. Still interested to hear Sally elaborate why the relationship between 1998 and 2014 temperatures has any bearing on climate trends one way or another...

I would be happy to elaborate. In that same time frame, China's CO2 emissions TRIPLED. India's emissions likewise skyrocketed. So too many of the rest of the industrialized world. It stands to reason if CO2 emissions are causing Global Warming, then the Earth's temp would have risen during this time of industrialized growth and pollution. Instead, it did not.

And this "moron" you're referring to listed his credentials above...go back to listening to Rush if you must. I hear he's recruiting for supporters of his next round of unsubstantiated claims.

patterman wrote:

and so, global warming is a myth you stupid f.ucking moron

The moron is the person who can't grasp that 2013 being no warmer than 1998 does not mean that AGW doesn't exist.

"Statistics is hard"

Nope. Seek and you will find. Calling everything lies is not providing anything to the debate.

Now some scientists are calling for cooling.

Awesome!

Athletics Illustrated wrote:

Calling everything lies is not providing anything to the debate.

Neither does lying

You do understand that the natural world operates in a nonlinear fashion, right?

We can agree that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. We can also agree that greenhouse gases hold the potential for trapping heat. We can again agree that more greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere have potential to trap heat, but might not always operate in a direct or exponential correlation.

And finally, we can agree that measurements taken at Mauna Loa in Hawaii show steadily increasing co2 levels which, my golly, are a direct result of human activity. Show many any other possible way that carbon dioxide can find its way into the atmosphere other than the burning of fossil fuels at the levels that we see. I'm not saying there aren't other methods (there are), but show me hard evidence that disproves what I have said so far.

Sally V wrote:

Well, it means that the Earth has not warmed in almost 2 decades! . . .

So explain this:

[quote]Holiday Inn Expert wrote:

You do understand that the natural world operates in a nonlinear fashion, right?

We can agree that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. We can also agree that greenhouse gases hold the potential for trapping heat. We can again agree that more greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere have potential to trap heat, but might not always operate in a direct or exponential correlation.

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Water vapor does contribute upwards of 90% to the Greenhouse effect. You know that too?